Are you against Islam?

[Shall Skill]

Can't say I do anymore I did when I was younger and ignorant and if some pre-conceived, racist/sexist/whatever thought comes into my head I remind my self it's how I was taught, not what I actually think.

Not to bash on your friends, but a limited experience with a limited amount of people hardly represents an overall population's views towards any issue. "Well I have this black friend who doesn't think police shooting of black men is an issue and that they kind of deserve it so really, don't they?"

That overwhelming majority you speak of is 99%, I don't care enough to pull up actual figures, but its in a tenths of a percent of extremists within Islam (ex: I believe there are 48,000 within the Taliban? Not sure though and there are plenty of other extremist groups) Thing is, you have nothing but your friend's word that so many feel that Americans have brought it upon themselves. To be fair, causing a problem and then dealing with the outfall of that problem could easily be considered righteous.

This "violence" done to Americans is miniscule - even more so when you compare it to the what we have done to other nations, frankly it's practically non-existent. They can't even turn a blind eye to it, because the violence that has been done to Americans has effected their daily lives. How about the lives of the 100's of children that have been killed by U.S. drones in Pakistan alone.

Fun fact: We have had more Americans killed by Ebola then we have ISIS.

Agree completely with almost all the above. I tell myself too it's only what I have been brainwashed to believe but the thought still creeps in. Fucking media is a bitch.

Agreed I'm only going on her word - could easily be that her family was taught to believe that way or that she only has friends that believe the same things she do. I have no idea - was just something I found interesting. We can safely say some people share her ideology, how much? I have no idea.

Also agree that the damage we endure is not so much, as you said. However, that could possibly be because we take extra precautions now? Just a thought. Also possible that we don't travel to that part of the world so we wouldn't know the violence that they could inflict on us if we were present? Also just rambling. Have no facts or numbers to give you on the amount of americans that travel to said area, lets just say pakistan for the sake of my previous post.

What is a fact is that the middle eastern extremists don't like us Americans and apparently some population of Pakistan (how little or how small I dont know; could be confined just to my friend and nobody else) are okay with the harm they can inflict on us (again no matter how little or how big) because of a previous military mistake

edit: It is a fact we gave arms to what is now the taliban, and it is a fact that the taliban terrorizes pakistani people, so, just for the sake of argument, is it justified that the islamics of PAKISTAN AND ONLY PAKISTAN turn a blind eye to the extremist actions?

 

[l0llyp0pst3r]

Not against Islam at all, or any other religions. Most muslims are normal, good hearted people who just follow their god. Only a small group of them are extremist and take it to the next level using their religion as an excuse to harm others

 

[Car_Radio]

Also agree that the damage we endure is not so much, as you said. However, that could possibly be because we take extra precautions now? Just a thought. Also possible that we don't travel to that part of the world so we wouldn't know the violence that they could inflict on us if we were present? Also just rambling. Have no facts or numbers to give you on the amount of americans that travel to said area, lets just say pakistan for the sake of my previous post.

What is a fact is that the middle eastern extremists don't like us Americans and apparently some population of Pakistan (how little or how small I dont know; could be confined just to my friend and nobody else) are okay with the harm they can inflict on us (again no matter how little or how big) because of a previous military mistake

edit: It is a fact we gave arms to what is now the taliban, and it is a fact that the taliban terrorizes pakistani people, so, just for the sake of argument, is it justified that the islamics of PAKISTAN AND ONLY PAKISTAN turn a blind eye to the extremist actions?

The U.S. taking extra precautions is an understatement, look at the NSA or the Torture Report. Has it prevented terrorist attacks? Perhaps, but the reports have said no.

Loads of Americans travel to the Middle East, hell I've been to Egypt/Jordan/Turkey, my mom was in Israel two months ago, and my boss just back from Turkey. Perhaps not every other person goes on these trips, but they are not rare, but kay Pakistan.

This population that may or may not be okay with the damage the Taliban may or may not inflict cannot be limited to a "previous military mistake." Drone strikes killing civilians and children are in no way an isolated incident (even if they are effective in killing what we see to be terrorists.) While there may be some definite anger toward the U.S., recent events (Peshawar massacre) as infuriated the citizens of Pakistan. In just a few days Pakistan overturned their ban on executing terrorists and has started (and will likely continue) executing them. Some individuals believe the ban was instituted out of fear of Taliban retaliation, but people are now pissed and are singing I Don't Fuck With You.

Yeah we gave them arms, the CIA literally created the Taliban. As for your question, it depends on your definition of Justified. We could go back-and-forth on what justice, it's a concept that means different things to different people. As for me, I don't think so, so no. I don't think anyone, anywhere should turn a blind-eye to extremist (or anything along the lines of hurting people and such) actions. This is obviously an ideal and is not at all what takes place all around the world. Even so, this doesn't mean I don't understand why they would do such a thing. They have reasons to be angry at the U.S.

 

[Trout]

I'm against the Islamic State.

Taking innocent lives in a murderous fashion, if they believed in something more real I'm sure their faith wouldn't make them kill people.

Seems like an excuse to be crazy fuckheads.

 

[symphony888]

I'm a Muslim myself, I hate the extremists. That's all. They make us look bad.

 

[Add My Msn]

I'm a Muslim and I like Islam, but I don't like the extremists who give us a bad name. :s

 

[Wish]

These extremists are making a bad name for Islamic beliefs. I don't think any Religion allows such extreme acts (raping women, killing children, etc.) in the name of Religion, but yet it is occurring and we are letting it happen.

 

[RS_Crispy]

I'm in the same boat as the majority of posters here. Not against Islam, but against ISIS and militant Islam.

 

[tehRonskie]

No, just because ISIS are killing people and they are muslim, it doesn't make the whole Islam bad but of course it would affect their image. Those ISIS are extremists which means they are funded by some people to kill.

 

[Danex123]

I am against some rules in the coran,
But against the religion? I don't think so they do
what they want to do.

 

[SmokeHut]

I am not against religion, though I am definitely a secularist. People have the right to believe whatever they want, however, does not make it truth and moral justifications should not be taken from scripture, it should be argued rationally.

As far as I'm aware, Islam is a religion of peace and for the majority they base their values in life from their religious teachings during their upbringing. However, there's unfortunately people who are able to force entire towns into acquiescence of their extremist beliefs, and unfortunately the Wests interactions the the Middle-East haven't done themselves any favors for developing enemies. As I am sure, if the shoe was on the other foot I would want revenge if bombs were dropped all over my town as well as our resources taken.

I am against some rules in the coran,
But against the religion? I don't think so they do
what they want to do.

If you're against some rules in the Qur'an then you're most likely against rules in the Bible too, if you do your research then there's not much good you can find in any religious scripture.

 

[Rebonked]

Not against any religion at all, everybody has the right to equality and to beleive in what they want. Ofcourse every religion has the minority of nutcases who give the religion a bad name.

 

[Emperor Nero]

I'm not against religion, but I am against theocracies.

 

[Audi]

i think the extremists are the ones that take it out of control, people that preach real islam i find to be very peaceful. i think media just takes it on differently

 

[BrianTirae]

"Muslim Extremists" are not Muslims... All of you should stop categorizing them as Muslims if you truly know Islam and it's way's (Reading the Quran) you would know it strives for peaceful existence with all of man kind, everyone is god's children and all life is sacred.

No I am not against Islam. I am against the devil's worshipers who believe there word and law can only come by through mass genocide.

Every religion has a distinctive virtue, and the distinctive virtue of Islam is modesty.

 

"Muslim Extremists" are not Muslims... All of you should stop categorizing them as Muslims if you truly know Islam and it's way's (Reading the Quran) you would know it strives for peaceful existence with all of man kind, everyone is god's children and all life is sacred.

No I am not against Islam. I am against the devil's worshipers who believe there word and law can only come by through mass genocide.

Every religion has a distinctive virtue, and the distinctive virtue of Islam is modesty.

Quran 52:24
Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.

Surah 76:19
Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men. And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.

Pedophilia is acceptable, but homosexuality is punishable by death. Peaceful indeed.

 

[BrianTirae]

Quran 52:24
Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.

Surah 76:19
Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men. And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.

Pedophilia is acceptable, but homosexuality is punishable by death. Peaceful indeed.

Muslims don't care about non-Muslim's sexual preferences.

There are no Muslim Homosexual's if there are they are lying to themselves and Allah see's everything.

 

[Tbo]

I agree with exactly what you've written. The whole race is judged on the actions of their minority groups and honestly all the racism surrounding it is from uneducated, insecure little fucks.
Sure, I'm against terrorism and all, but people who see muslims (or any race for that matter) and automatically judge them are idiots.

 

[whaatitdo]

Quran 52:24
Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.

Surah 76:19
Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men. And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.

Pedophilia is acceptable, but homosexuality is punishable by death. Peaceful indeed.

Please do some research before quoting out of context lol. Clearly, that is talking about how servitude is in paradise. Also, if you think calling young children albeit boys or girls, beautiful children or like pearls, is wrong, let me just say its necessary to adopt this as a parent- common psychology involves praising your kids with the best words. It's nothing wrong to say lol.

As for death punishments only like 5 countries out of all the places in the world do that, if it is a part of Islam you would see that endorsed thoughtout many of the 1.2+ billion muslims, but that is not so.

 

[Sininity]

It is not Islam i hate, it is the select few whom give zero shits about the world while deciding to ruin countless peoples lives including there own and for what......? a god?

I honestly just dont understand there god damn logic.....!