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    I received information from a a friend (who wanted to be anonymous) that Dave, Soul Rich and Moes6223 are selling Ikov gold obtained through hacking.

    They did not steal any gold themselves, but they've partnered up with someone who has the Ikov Database and who stole Ikov gold. This guy who hacked Ikov a couple months back is called XerX3s and he owns Abusewithus forums.
    Now since he cleaned and took a lot from the database, he decided to sell access to it. The thing is, he wrote himself in a post that he made 9k$ from selling RSGP, ofcourse he didn't sell the Ikov gold himself, but he partnered up with Dave, Soul Rich and Moes6223.


    Let's start with the thread where XerX3s is selling access to the Ikov Database:


    On the 3rd page, he mentions that he made 9k$ and partnered up with Dave, Soul Rich and Moes6223.


    Moes6223 Ikov selling thread:


    Dave helping Moes6223 sell Ikov on same thread:


    Soul Rich Ikov selling thread


    If you deny any of these accusations, please provide valid proof that you've obtained the gold you're currently selling in other ways.
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    He have any pms or skype of contacting any of these three
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    I don't have any, it's not like he posted screenshots of their conversations. It all makes sense though, XerX3s obtained the Ikov DB few months ago, if you aren't sure, you can go ahead and ask on Ikov when last time they had a DB leak. With a database, you can easily make hundreds of billions GP. All these 3 started selling MASSIVE amounts of gold out of nowhere in same time frame where XerX3s hacked Ikov.
     
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    I need to Login to skype later and review my last conversation with doug he mentioned something about this

    Will do in few hours after xmas dinner
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    After I made this thread, people linked Xer to this report and he immediatly edited out the line that he have partnered up with Dave, Soul Rich and Moes6223. He edited in panic to cover up for his partners

     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Lol JT, I can happily pm you proof of who Moes purchases his Ikov gold from, and I am 150% sure it's not a hacker. That at least is the current supplier.

    Second, this supplier is the only person Moes has purchased from since his latest ban on Ikov and once I explain why, it'll make pretty clear sense. As for this xer guy, Moes has purchased from one other person while I've worked with him, and this was two purchases on the first two days I ever worked with him and he hasn't spoken to that guy since.

    That being said, I'll happily grab you the Skype which I'm talking about and I can ask soul rich if it's the same contact but You have my word that the current supplier which I am indirectly involved with is 1600000% sure not a hacker
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Also, anyone who knows me and has ever worked with me has never referred to me as David. May seem like a minor detail but legit anyone I've spoken to on Sythe has never once referred to me as David in a casual setting lol

    That's all folks
     
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    For the first part, you're writing a lot of stuff but no proof have been added to anything you've said. Your words aren't trusted since this is a report against you, you need to provide proof mate.

    The second part, XerX3s wrote "Global Mod David", Dave/David is almost the same names and people mistype them. There's also no other global mod on this forum that has similar name to yours. You're also working with Moes6223 that has also been mentioned by XerX3s and that makes it even more obvious.

    The third part, why did XerX3s edit his post out after this report has been made? If he had no connections to you at all, he wouldn't be bothered that you 3 had been reported.

    You can't proof that you guys HAVEN'T spoken to him as you can easily erase your chat history and then claim that you've never spoken to him.

    EDIT: You can also check this thread http://www.sythe.org/spam-forum/1788439-dave-moes-soul-rich-situation-putting-information-here.html

    Dave, Moes6223 and Soul Rich, you 3 are very shady. Once again, XerX3s is hacking servers and stealing thousands of dollars from people, I don't believe he'd care if you 3 were reported unless he were working with you.
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Well Mr. YouAreFraud, let me clear a few things up for you.

    I don't know if you're just mad that I responded or something along those lines, but my first sentence clearly states "JT I will happily pm you proof..." which pretty much shows that the supplier doesn't want to be publicly displayed. The proof will be provided, but it will be provided to the staff member handling the report.

    I'm not trying to say that the guy isn't referring to me. Obviously global mod david = me, my point was anyone who has indeed worked with me has never once called me David. Suggesting that this guy has never actually contacted or spoken to me because anyone who has ever had more than a five second conversation with me has known that I don't go by David, I go by Dave.

    Lastly, I very well understand the severity of this and I have the full intention of going into both Soul Rich's and Moes' skypes and finding the info behind this whole ordeal and presenting it to JT. I know myself that I haven't spoken to the guy claiming to be this user cause the only person I've seen Moes purchase from I can 150% confirm isn't a hacker and his GP is as legitimate as can possibly be.

    Now, you may proceed with your wall of text calling me a shady scammer.
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Can you do some investigating and get me a skype, email, or something linked to this user? And I will happily find if Moes/Soul Rich are in contact with the guy? Though I truthfully don't think they are
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Also, FireZ, just PM'd you a photo that's probably the most solid proof that the GP Moes is purchasing is not from a hacker. Moes has been purchasing from this supplier since 12/13/2014 (this is the date of his last ban if I remember correctly) so the guy who's claiming to have made $9k, it would have to be not including the past 2 weeks. Again, the photo I've presented to FireZ via PM explains why.

    As for Soul Rich, there's no way he was working with one single person purchasing that much gold. Reason be is Soul Rich is banned from Ikov so the way he conducts his trades is when someone wants to buy from him, he finds a seller, lines them up in game, and takes the extra payment as profit.

    Ex:
    "Can I buy 50b Ikov for 500k/m"
    *Soul rich finds a seller on his list of 50 sellers, and asks seller to sell for 300k/m*

    He has the two of them meet ingame, and he keeps the profit and pays each of them their respective amount. There's no way he's aided a single user in getting $9k from sales in one month.
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Let me make it even more clear for you.

    Since it's Moes6223's thread and not yours, he probably never spoke to you, but he knew that you were working with him which is kind of odd and that's why he wrote "David".

    I don't have any information about XerX3s and you can EASILY delete chat conversations in skype and clean your traces. I believe showing your skype or others skype won't matter at all, because you've all seen this thread hours ago and does it really take more than 2 minutes to erase skype conversation?

    Here's a little proof that Moes6223 partnered with XerX3s. So XerX3s had this Ikov DB for months, he partnered up with these people who are accused and when he stopped since he already cleaned out the rich people on Ikov, he decided to sell access to the database instead.

    Mous6223 announcing that his supplier can't supply him anymore and he needs a new one.

    Date 12-12-2014
    [​IMG]

    3 Days later, XerX3s announces that he's selling access to the Ikov DB.

    [​IMG]

    Dave, we can both agree that Mous6223 has had 2 suppliers. Mous6223 says it himself anyway. I'm not saying you're wrong, I believe that Mous6223 has a new supplier now, however, he have dealt with XerX3s and you were with Mous6223 before he switched supplier.

    [​IMG]
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Regarding your point about stock -

    Moes says it's because the guy who initially was supplying him stopped responding to him - http://puu.sh/dJrZK/c7a7914b44.png

    Here's proof of that - http://puu.sh/dJs1W/7051535a8e.png

    I don't want to publicly release the guys skype out of respect for him/if he's indeed innocent I don't want Ikov staff having access to his skype, but if you really think that photo is fabricated I can send a picture to FireZ with proof
     
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    Also by partnered up, are you trying to say that Moes, myself, and Soul Rich are actively working with a guy who's openly telling us "hey dude I've got hacked accounts and can sell you as much GP as you need?" As in, do you think we've got him working in our shop helping out?
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    It doesn't make any sense.. XerX3s the hacker who have ruined hundreds of servers and stolen thousands of dollars, caring for 3 members of another community.
    You do also know that it's very possible that XerX3s might have supplied all you 3 without a problem right? having the database means he logged on all rich accounts without any issues. I don't believe there's any other people in the entire game with trillions.
     
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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    Please convince everyone why a hacker who doesn't care about anyone, suddenly cares about you 3 by editing the post and removing what he said?

    [​IMG]

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    MOD Dave, TRUSTED Moes6223, Soul Rich. ALL FRAUD! DEALING WITH BLACKHAT!

    First thing I would like to know, is when exactly was this DB leak? (month). That would give an indication, if this did happen, when it all 'started'.

    ==========

    Point 1: I have sold NO ikov gold from the end of october to the beginning of December.

    PROOF: This can be seen itself on my thread (check post #175 onwards, halfway down the page, look at the dates I posted): Click here.
    I didn't bump my ikov thread once, except that one occasion on the 26th November, where I was probably just going through all my threads and bumping them.
    Edit: I was in fact doing this; all other threads have a bump at the exact same time, e.g. this post.

    This was because I was ranked in a commission staking clan, making ~100M 07 a day, sometimes a hell of a lot more if I stake my own cash, I didn't have a reason to bump my threads when I was making so much, and that took up most of the day. [PROOF (from mid-november): Click here] (also check my vouch thread for the 07 I sold in that month from staking/hosting). I wasn't active on sythe during this time, as I was more focused on that. I can easily prove this to whoever will be checking this report. I had no involvement during that time period for Ikov. EVEN PRIOR TO THAT, I had very little involvement with ikov, as I was still ranked in the clan, but my max account was later banned for RWT so I was looking for a new one.
    PROOF (from August): Click here

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    Point 2: I barely got that many sales LOL. My prices were over priced as I was one of the few trusted members selling the gold. You can check my thread for the few vouches there are for sales. For example:

    Also, as I myself cannot login to ikov to hold the gold, someone who wanted to sell ikov gold, had to be online at the same time as someone wanted to buy ikov gold. This gave me much fewer sales.

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    Point 3: I am IP/MAC banned on ikov [PROOF: http://i.imgur.com/3yQmLmO.png]. I don't+can't login to ikov. When a person adds me to buy or sell ikov gold, I add [IKOV-S] or [IKOV-B] prior to their Skype name, indicating if they are selling or buying gold [PROOF: http://i.imgur.com/O5UeECT.png]. Then, for example, if I get someone wanting to buy 20b ikov, I will go through the list of people that have [IKOV-S] on their name, asking if they can sell 20B. If anyone does reply, I would arrange for them to meet in-game, and trade the cash. This is how I 'obtain my gold'. My profit comes from buying the gold cheaper and selling it for higher. Theres not 1 specific supplier I go to for ikov gold.

    PROOF: For example, someone wanted to buy 50B Ikov Gold, on Tuesday, at around 20:30 PM.
    You can see I PM various people, at the same time, asking if they have 50B in stock: Pic #1 || Pic #2 || Pic #3 || Pic #4 || Pic #5 ||

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    $9000 in gold in a month. For simplicities sake, let's say ikov gold is $1/B (although it was actually closer to 0.70/b) for normal players selling to gold merchants. Thats saying he sold 9 trillion gp (closer to 12.8 trillion at the actual price) , for $1/M over the course of 1 month. This results in an average of just under 300B sold a day, for a month.

    I went back to buying/selling ikov in early December, and since then (1st-26th December) in total I have sold around 400b, max.

    If he did sell all that gold this past month, he did it probably from different skypes, without our knowledge it was hacked. Being 'partners' is no way to put this, and the OP is over-dramatising his posts.

    For the mod dealing with this report, feel free to contact me if you need information etc.
     
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    Why can't these posts/threads on hackforums or whatever be found by normal users?

    Edit: Also, how the hell am I supposed to know why he edited the post? I'm not the guy nor have I ever spoken to him. Hell, if anything, why cant you explain to me why his edit sounds like a troll "LOOOL what absurd accusation is that?"

    Doesn't sound like someone who cares, sounds like someone who doesn't give a fuck and things it's all a big joke.
     
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