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[APPROVED] Autobump/paid-bump clarifications and transparency

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  1. S

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    [APPROVED] Autobump/paid-bump clarifications and transparency

    If a user is using their ranks, status, reputability, etc to bump for a trader/company, then either A) said user should have a disclaimer in their bump stating that they are in no way affiliated, and will not be held responsible for any scams/malicious activity that takes place, AND that it is purely a paid bump; or B) if said user does not have a disclaimer/chooses not to have one (at their discretion - if they trust said trader/company), then they will be held liable, alongside the company/trader if any scams/malicious activity were to take place.

    This can quite clearly mislead and confuse users into believing said bumper is part of the business - presenting a fall sense of security.

    It's disingenuous to bump for a trader/company utilising said bumpers status/rank, when in reality, there is no actual tangible connection.


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    Bump
     
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    I feel like this affects @sypherz too, given the advent of his bumping tool. But I support the OP and agree that we could use a little more clarification around the new rules.
     
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    Clarification would be helpful, I agreed. After I'm done working on revisions for the new rule I'll likely begin using a burner account to remedy this.
     
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    Should the same apply to user titles/signatures?
     
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    I also feel like bumping isn't any different than signature/avatar/user title renting. If this rule would pass for bumping, the same should happen for sig/ava/ut. But that's be hard to implement with avatars/user titles.

    I also don't think people will trust a user just because a user with a high rep bumps his threads.
     
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    tbh @Zora when i first saw your bump i assumed you was a worker at first until i saw others and realised what was happening.

    I agree with @SellerMan a disclaimer wouldn't hurt - to new users this would clear alot of things up
     
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    Fair enough, but would this disclaimer be in the signature or just a general message displayed in stickies?
     
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    Perhaps on the bump itself, exactly how @SellerMan has mentioned. e.g.

    This is a paid automated bump - i am in now way affiliated with the thread owner.
     
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    But again, then this should also be implemented with signatures/user titles/avatars.

    If I pay someone to have an Avatar with 'Zora Gold' or something, User title: Buy the cheapest gold here! and a signature to my gold website/thread, then wouldn't a lot of people assume the said user works for me?

    If we change this rule regarding bumping for others, the above should be changed as well.

    But then, are we gonna put extra text in someones usertitle/avatar that they are in no way affiliated with person thats advertised for?
     
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    You're probably right, however if you're directly bumping a thread i would say thats more likely to be involved with the business itself. But it wouldnt hurt to have clarity in both.
     
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    support as a bump could signify to some people that the person bumping is affiliated with the service.
     
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    I actually earlier had mistaken a auto bumper for being affiliated to a site/thread for hiring workers.

    + Support
     
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    Bump
     
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    Fully support. I saw a few recently and I assumed that the person bumping the posts was a worker for the company being advertised until I saw it across multiple threads. Which is fine but could be confusing for newer members who don’t necessarily know better yet.
     
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    Sure. Anyone who runs autobumping services must clearly state that they are not affiliated with the thread they're bumping for in their posts.

    Usertitles/signature ads are treated differently
     
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