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I don't play Runescape, but I'd wager that 2 defence is far more common than 3 or 4?

In any event, I'm not saying the rules should be amended to officially allow 2/3/4/whatever defence, I'm merely stating that if an account has 2 defence, it shouldn't automatically be moved out - let the mod in question decide (on a case by case basis). Naturally, if the subforum becomes flooded with 2 defence pures, then potentially the cap increasing from 1 to 2 is relevant.

Honestly no idea, I see multiple 2-4 def accounts in the 'others' section.

Yes, letting the mode in question decide could be an option but the downside is that there will be different rulings for different cases this way. Mod A could allow it, while mod B wouldn't.

 

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I don't play Runescape anymore, but I'd wager that 2 defence is far more common than 3 or 4?

In any event, I'm not saying the rules should be amended to officially allow 2/3/4/whatever defence, I'm merely stating that if an account has 2 defence, it shouldn't automatically be moved out - let the mod in question decide (on a case by case basis). Naturally, if the subforum becomes flooded with 2 defence pures, then potentially the cap increasing from 1 to 2 is relevant.

This is exactly what I’m trying to say.

Honestly no idea, I see multiple 2-4 def accounts in the 'others' section.

Yes, letting the mode in question decide could be an option but the downside is that there will be different rulings for different cases this way. Mod A could allow it, while mod B wouldn't.

After a quick search through the others section I’m not seeing a single 2 def account in there let alone multiple or enough to “flood” the 1 def section. Correct me if I’m wrong and link them. But even if there’s a couple is that really enough for this to be an issue. 1 defence level.

 

I do not support this. A new section for 1-5 defense pures or 'failed pures' would be better.

This section is already flooded with a lot of accounts/account sellers. Adding 1-5 or even 1-20 will make it just as messy as it was before. I understand the frustration that it's harder to sell the account now, I too have a failed pure that barely gets any views, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

Like others have suggested, turning the account into another type of account would probably make it easier for you to sell.

It seems like you understand my way of thinking then, at the end of the day it is a ruined account regardless of if you’re willing to look past the obtained level that isn’t needed to be there to begin with.
Think of it this way, you have a hardcore Ironman and it dies you lose value and it’s the same with the pure section - Not only this but when you’re crying about being treated no different to anyone else because you feel you shouldn’t be handled the same is stupid. At the end of the day the facts will remain there is no real “2 defence pure” bracket, it’s just a mix of the odd person who is too lazy to restart the account again, and by all means there isn’t anything wrong with that either.

Yes other account types would be easier to sell and would probably be a safer/better investment too but people don’t like to accept this sort of criticism when it comes to their own stuff, again which is understandable I’d be pissed off too.

 

I agree with this, but i don't really see it as a big problem. There is no need to over-moderate things like this as it doesn't hurt anyone for 2def accounts to be in pures section, as they're basically just a discounted pure

 

I agree with this, but i don't really see it as a big problem. There is no need to over-moderate things like this as it doesn't hurt anyone for 2def accounts to be in pures section, as they're basically just a discounted pure

This. At the core, a 2 defense pure is just a one defense pure at a discounted price. No need to rework the system, IMO.

 

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Think of it this way, you have a hardcore Ironman and it dies you lose value and it’s the same with the pure section

Not a similar comparison in the slightest. A Hardcore Ironman's value is largely, if not all based on its Hardcore status and associated stats/items. A 2 defence pure, opposed to 1, would not drop an accounts value that significanlty.

Yes other account types would be easier to sell and would probably be a safer/better investment too but people don’t like to accept this sort of criticism when it comes to their own stuff, again which is understandable I’d be pissed off too.

No one has referred to which accs are easier to sell or better, or about accepting criticism. Why are you continuing this rhetoric? We aren't debating what is easier or better to sell.

 

Not a similar comparison in the slightest. A Hardcore Ironman's value is largely, if not all based on its Hardcore status and associated stats/items. A 2 defence pure, opposed to 1, would not drop an accounts value that significanlty.



No one has referred to which accs are easier to sell or better, or about accepting criticism. Why are you continuing this rhetoric? We aren't debating what is easier or better to sell.

I think maybe read what i have said since the beginning.

The guy isn't happy that he got told it isn't "a 1 defence pure" that's because it isn't. What he has actually done by doing that is false advertisement, and you're claiming it's not about criticism but yes it actually is.

This whole section is about giving your opinion, putting across criticism is how it partly works, as with that being said if you do not like something or disagree with how it's presented you are essentially doing that after all. And yes, it would drop in value as it isn't what it is meant to be contended for, which is 1 defence PKing and such let's say not 2 defence.

 

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It seems like you understand my way of thinking then, at the end of the day it is a ruined account regardless of if you’re willing to look past the obtained level that isn’t needed to be there to begin with.
Think of it this way, you have a hardcore Ironman and it dies you lose value and it’s the same with the pure section - Not only this but when you’re crying about being treated no different to anyone else because you feel you shouldn’t be handled the same is stupid. At the end of the day the facts will remain there is no real “2 defence pure” bracket, it’s just a mix of the odd person who is too lazy to restart the account again, and by all means there isn’t anything wrong with that either.

Yes other account types would be easier to sell and would probably be a safer/better investment too but people don’t like to accept this sort of criticism when it comes to their own stuff, again which is understandable I’d be pissed off too.

I think maybe read what i have said since the beginning.

The guy isn't happy that he got told it isn't "a 1 defence pure" that's because it isn't. What he has actually done by doing that is false advertisement, and you're claiming it's not about criticism but yes it actually is.

This whole section is about giving your opinion, putting across criticism is how it partly works, as with that being said if you do not like something or disagree with how it's presented you are essentially doing that after all. And yes, it would drop in value as it isn't what it is meant to be contended for, which is 1 defence PKing and such let's say not 2 defence.

Like I said I still feel like an account such as a 60 attack pure that got 61 attack, a 1 def pure that got 2 defence, or an initiate pure that gained an extra defence level still fall into those brackets. I thought that was kind of obvious actually, hence the reason the account was put into the 1 defense section by the mods once they made that section in the first place. And why pikachu said no to moving it out when Zora requested it to be moved out. Does that mean the account lost some of its value, sure maybe to some people but not to everyone especially if it doesn’t affect the account. If gaining 1 defence level kept the combat level the same and everythings the same I absolutely would not say the account is ruined or that it has to be thrown away and started over lmao.

Where and when did anyone cry about being treated different. Your pulling shit out of your ass at this point. I think every account in this same situation should be treated the same way which is why I made this suggestion post. It’s not a matter of being too lazy and starting over a maxed pure since it gained one defence level lolll. Also I’m all for criticism, like I said before I won’t lose a second of sleep over any of this and nothing being said will hurt my feelings I promise you that lol, but it’s something that should be brought up obviously. You’re trying as hard as you can to try and make it a personal thing when it’s not. You can say its not a 1 defence pure all you want I could care less what you think to be honest but when you come on a suggestion post calling the account "literal dog shit" and saying the suggestion post made you laugh you just look like an idiot. No where am I false advertising you're carrying everything away as much as you possibly can and like I said you're trying to make this a personal thing when it's not and you're just looking childish in all honesty.

Anyways getting back to what the suggestion post is actually about, I was saying this isn’t an issue that will be common AT ALL. And like @SellerMan stated if it becomes flooded with lvl 2 defense accounts then I think it could be an issue but I can guarantee that won’t happen. I checked through the account sections and couldn’t find a single account with 2 defense being sold but like I said correct me on that one if I’m wrong.

Theres absolutely no reason in my opinion that an account with 1 extra defence shouldnt be in that section. And that goes for any type of pure like I've mentioned above if a 60 attack pure gained an attack level it is still a 60 attack pure. Some may think it lost value some wouldnt I personally could care less and it would all depend on the other stats. If all of the other stats were maxed I sure ass hell would care less about that 1 attack level and thats my personal opinion.

 

Like I said I still feel like an account such as a 60 attack pure that got 61 attack, a 1 def pure that got 2 defence, or an initiate pure that gained an extra defence level still fall into those brackets.

Not even going to bother arguing the case with someone who doesn't have a clue - No it doesn't fall into the same bracket as it's a failed pure however you look at it - That is misleading and false advertisement to someone who doesn't know.

 

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Not even going to bother arguing the case with someone who doesn't have a clue - No it doesn't fall into the same bracket as it's a failed pure however you look at it - That is misleading and false advertisement to someone who doesn't know.

You think I don't have a clue and I think you don't have a clue, that's kind of how these posts work so you left your opinion and I left mine. Believe it or not it's not something that's personal, and disagreements don't have to be personal lol. I don't think anything about that post is misleading. The stats are literally right there in the post. I believe an account like that belongs in the 1 defence section because buyers looking for that type of account would sure as hell be interested in a maxed pure that has 1 additional defence level. Again that's my strong opinion.

 

You think I don't have a clue and I think you don't have a clue, that's kind of how these posts work so you left your opinion and I left mine. Believe it or not it's not something that's personal, and disagreements don't have to be personal lol. I don't think anything about that post is misleading. The stats are literally right there in the post. I believe an account like that belongs in the 1 defence section because buyers looking for that type of account would sure as hell be interested in a maxed pure that has 1 additional defence level. Again that's my strong opinion.

I am not basing it upon what you should think or feel as you have claimed your feelings towards my comments so far.

In your opinion if the account is maxed, that over rides the fact of it being a ruined pure when it doesn't. Nothing changes it, it just has higher stats that's all. This isn't about trying to insult you, trying to make you feel bad or anything else it's simply a reply to what you wanted to put a suggestion through with, which is that it's not the "account build" you're claiming it is.

I wont reply any further than this anyway, because it's not the point of there being 1 or 1000 accounts of the same in the same market part, it's the fact it's not as it's meant to be. You don't seem to understand someone else's point of view based on the information you have given, and whilst you're saying "I will sleep well tonight", I can assure you going by your comments back you are rattled when you have no reason to be in the slightest.

An example I will give you though, if I make a level 3 with 99 prayer and call it a "level 3 skiller" it's no longer a level 3 skiller, it's just a skiller - In this example with yours, it's just a regular account (or what was a pure originally) which can be turned into something greater.

- DM if you wanna chat more bro.

 

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I am not basing it upon what you should think or feel as you have claimed your feelings towards my comments so far.

In your opinion if the account is maxed, that over rides the fact of it being a ruined pure when it doesn't. Nothing changes it, it just has higher stats that's all. This isn't about trying to insult you, trying to make you feel bad or anything else it's simply a reply to what you wanted to put a suggestion through with, which is that it's not the "account build" you're claiming it is.

I wont reply any further than this anyway, because it's not the point of there being 1 or 1000 accounts of the same in the same market part, it's the fact it's not as it's meant to be. You don't seem to understand someone else's point of view based on the information you have given, and whilst you're saying "I will sleep well tonight", I can assure you going by your comments back you are rattled when you have no reason to be in the slightest.

An example I will give you though, if I make a level 3 with 99 prayer and call it a "level 3 skiller" it's no longer a level 3 skiller, it's just a skiller - In this example with yours, it's just a regular account (or what was a pure originally) which can be turned into something greater.

- DM if you wanna chat more bro.

I can assure you that I'm not rattled man I promise you I'm very calm, lol I'm literally trying to make this civilized and get my point across and I feel like I'm making that pretty obvious. You're just saying random stuff like I'm crying about being treated different and stuff like that and it's not making any sense to me and is very off top. Also your examples are so far off that they just don't even relate. Either way I'll just private message you instead of going back and fourth on here.

 

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It seems most people think these types of accounts are similar enough that they should be in the same section. We will be allowing 2 defense (NOT 3 or higher) pures in the 1 defense section