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Still shocked I even have to make this suggestion but I guess it would have gotten brought eventually in the future anyways (Maybe probably not though).

Basically once the account sale section was redone and split up which was definitely for the better, my maxed pure was put into the 1 defense pure section by the mods (where it should be ⭐[$100 Donor] Selling MAXED PURE 99 Agility, 99 Strength, 99 Range, 99 Magic, 90 Construction⭐). As you can see the account has 2 defense which is obviously not on purpose but that 1 defense level did not affect the accounts combat level at all. Anyone looking at the account with common sense knows it’s a 1 defense pure and belongs in the 1 defense pure section especially since it’s a maxed pure.


Well it was a slow day at the office the other day because the account was moved out of the 1 defense section since it doesn’t have 1 defense. And I explained to the mod that moved it that it should still be in that section because

  1. Selling that account will be 10x harder in the mains section or any other section since no one with common sense would say that’s a main or any other kind of account.
  2. That one defense level did not affect the account at all.
  3. It fits in that 1 defense pure section better than any other section which is why mods put it there in the first place.
  4. Absolutely no one would complain about an account that accidentally got 2 defense being in the 1 defense pure section.

I asked the mod that moved it out if he could move it back and he said no there’s nothing he can do about it. Oh okay great thanks for the help. Not mad at him he’s just trying to do his job but I am salty for sure lol.

All of this seems completely unnecessary to me if we’re using common sense and no the defense isn’t ACTUALLY level 1 defense but its obvious that it’s a 1 defense pure especially considering it didn’t change the combat level.. I’ve spoken to max pures that have gotten an extra defense level on their account since it wouldn’t change their combat level purposely.


So my solution for this is if the account is within a couple levels and it doesn’t actually change the account just let it be and work with the seller. This isn’t an issue that will happen very often and it’s a common sense thing. Its obvious an account like this should get buying traffic for people looking for 1 defense pures let’s be real here.
 
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This account is meant to be a one defense pure, and for all intensive purposes, is. It has less than 10 damage worth of XP more than a perfect one defense pure. The intention is not to be 13 def, 20 def, 25 def, 45 def, etc (which are fundamentally different builds). The intention of this account is to be a one defence pure. Therefore, this belongs in that section. No brainer here, in my opinion.
 
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I support having the 1 defence section changed to "1-39 Defence" or making another section for "2-39 Defence."


Also, I see alot of "Account shop" threads that have multiple accounts listed on them that do not fit the description of the section they are posted in.

Not to call anyone out but some examples:

[$300+ DONOR] ❗❗ AMAZING PURES ❗❗ NH HYRID | AGS PURE | SKILLERS ❤️ GP/BTC/ETH ❤️ [300+ VOUCHES]
⭐️PURE SHOP PLENTY FOR SALE CHEAP⭐️
⚡TONS OF VOUCH⚡ DONORED ⚡BIGGEST MAXED PURE & ZERKER'S⚡10K+ TRADED⚡SECURED⚡


Probably dozens more as well.

If displaying 2+ defence accounts within an "Account Shop" posted in the 1 defence section is permitted, then @XYZelite just post a lvl 3 tut island finished account and post it along there too. I don't see any difference. If not, looks like there's some reports to do `:laugh:
 
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I support having the 1 defence section changed to "1-39 Defence" or making another section for "2-39 Defence."


Also, I see alot of "Account shop" threads that have multiple accounts listed on them that do not fit the description of the section they are posted in.

Not to call anyone out but some examples:

[$300+ DONOR] ❗❗ AMAZING PURES ❗❗ NH HYRID | AGS PURE | SKILLERS ❤️ GP/BTC/ETH ❤️ [300+ VOUCHES]
⭐️PURE SHOP PLENTY FOR SALE CHEAP⭐️
⚡TONS OF VOUCH⚡ DONORED ⚡BIGGEST MAXED PURE & ZERKER'S⚡10K+ TRADED⚡SECURED⚡
✨✨ [$300+ donor][700 vouches] ✨✨ Max Pures $200 ea [OO]

Probably dozens more as well.

If displaying 2+ defence accounts within an "Account Shop" posted in the 1 defence section is permitted, then @XYZelite just post a lvl 3 tut island finished account and post it along there too. I don't see any difference. If not, looks like there's some reports to do `:laugh:
Currently, the specific sections are only allowed to contain those type of accounts, so 1 def accounts can only belong in an 'shop' with other 1 def accounts, not 2, 3def accounts. Feel free to report
 
I will say, this thread did make me laugh.

2 defence is a "ruined pure" not a pure or 1 defence pure. You don't go into wildy and go "yeah mate, I won because my defence is higher than yours brah, hahahaha" instead the account has lost value and content of the wording based on the defence level.

What you could do, is turn it into a different type of account (initiate/zerker or so) or even if you wanted to push the boat out sell it as a main once worked out a bit more - I don't feel the section requires any work personally, from an outside view of someone who does play with the market.
 
I will say, this thread did make me laugh.

2 defence is a "ruined pure" not a pure or 1 defence pure. You don't go into wildy and go "yeah mate, I won because my defence is higher than yours brah, hahahaha" instead the account has lost value and content of the wording based on the defence level.

What you could do, is turn it into a different type of account (initiate/zerker or so) or even if you wanted to push the boat out sell it as a main once worked out a bit more - I don't feel the section requires any work personally, from an outside view of someone who does play with the market.

What in the helllll are you talking about "brah"?
Just because a pure went ONE level above the intended defense level doesnt mean its not a pure anymore especially considering it didnt affect the combat level. Does it lower the value yeah of course thats obvious but its still a pure lmao.
 
What in the helllll are you talking about "brah"?
Just because a pure went ONE level above the intended defense level doesnt mean its not a pure anymore especially considering it didnt affect the combat level. Does it lower the value yeah of course thats obvious but its still a pure lmao.

A 1 defence pure says it all in the name "1 defence", don't get defensive (literal) because you got a lowered form of account type. It isn't a pure, as it's not in the same bracket hence the 2 defence, if you know anything about pking you would know this.

You asked for us to give you our view none the less, you have mine as someone who was once a little kid who used to PK many many years ago, and has watched people from the 2002-2003 days all the way up until now pking.
 
I'll suggest btw @XYZelite please look more into it.

A pure is one of the following when it comes to having any other stat than defence - 1, 20, 42, 45, 70, 99. You are free to correct me if I am wrong, but those go as followed - 1 defence pure, initiate pure, void pure, zerker, barrow and/or max ranged tank. (as some people decide to go over 70 defence)

I understand it's annoying being told the account is literally dog shit, but as I said if you turned it into something bigger and better not only would it be a cool project but could still be sold in the correct form.
 
A 1 defence pure says it all in the name "1 defence", don't get defensive (literal) because you got a lowered form of account type. It isn't a pure, as it's not in the same bracket hence the 2 defence, if you know anything about pking you would know this.

You asked for us to give you our view none the less, you have mine as someone who was once a little kid who used to PK many many years ago, and has watched people from the 2002-2003 days all the way up until now pking.

I'll suggest btw @XYZelite please look more into it.

A pure is one of the following when it comes to having any other stat than defence - 1, 20, 42, 45, 70, 99. You are free to correct me if I am wrong, but those go as followed - 1 defence pure, initiate pure, void pure, zerker, barrow and/or max ranged tank. (as some people decide to go over 70 defence)

I understand it's annoying being told the account is literally dog shit, but as I said if you turned it into something bigger and better not only would it be a cool project but could still be sold in the correct form.

I’m not defensive you just sound like a complete idiot. Common sense clearly isn’t common. Trust me I know plenty about pking enough to know that 1 defense level that didn’t change the combat level at all doesnt mean the account is “literally dog shit” as you put it.

So in your logic if a 60 attack pure accidentally got 61 attack it is no longer a 60 attack pure? Gtfoh you clearly are the one that doesn’t know about pking lol. If a void pure came up and fought me and had an additional defense level nothing in me would say that’s not a void pure or if any pure did for that matter.

Like I said, does it lower the accounts value sure I would agree on that. Did it ruin the account and make it “literal dog shit” because it has one additional defence level, nah I’m gona say no on that one bud. I think the 99 strength, 99 magic, 99 range, 99 agility, 90 construction and all quest items make up for that one defence level plus more. You sound stupid.
 
Also @Dbuffed no need to reply to me anymore on here. All you had to do was give your opinion. Instead you came in talking shit saying "this thread made me laugh" and saying the account is "literal dog shit".

I genuinely feel like that pure belongs in the 1 defence pure section regardless of that 1 defense level since it didnt affect the account. And people looking for 1 defence pures would be looking for that account. Other people on here agreed with me as well so I made this suggestion to prevent this from happening in the future. I promise you I will sleep just as good at night weather this gets approved or it doesnt lol.
 
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Moving the thread out of the '1 Defence' section because it had 2 DEFENCE, omegaLUL.

Seriously, we all understand what the rules are, however, discretion and judgement should be used in situations like these. Rules don't have to be followed to the T.
 
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Moving the thread out of the '1 Defence' section because it had 2 DEFENCE, omegaLUL.

Seriously, we all understand what the rules are, however, discretion and judgement should be used in situations like these. Rules don't have to be followed to the T.

Agree with this.

If not allowing this, then the section needs to be 1-20 defense pures as they all are basically considered "pure".

Something drastic doesn't need to be done, but at least allow 1-5 defense in that section.
 
Also @Dbuffed no need to reply to me anymore on here. All you had to do was give your opinion. Instead you came in talking shit saying "this thread made me laugh" and saying the account is "literal dog shit".

I genuinely feel like that pure belongs in the 1 defence pure section regardless of that 1 defense level since it didnt affect the account. And people looking for 1 defence pures would be looking for that account. Other people on here agreed with me as well so I made this suggestion to prevent this from happening in the future. I promise you I will sleep just as good at night weather this gets approved or it doesnt lol.
The point is, it’s not “what you feel” it’s what it is, it’s either you accept it and move on or you don’t and you know people such as myself would say otherwise than what you want to hear.

No support from me, you seem very confused about the subject and get very tilted about the most basic of mentioning.
 
Agree with this.

If not allowing this, then the section needs to be 1-20 defense pures as they all are basically considered "pure".

Something drastic doesn't need to be done, but at least allow 1-5 defense in that section.
Now this I could understand, if you was to word it differently and act on it differently sure then it’s somewhat acceptable. The fact is you’re never going to have a “2 defence pure” production from anyone, so something that can lean between it possibly because of the people who lets be honest fucked it up could still get somewhere.
 
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I do not support this. A new section for 1-5 defense pures or 'failed pures' would be better.

This section is already flooded with a lot of accounts/account sellers. Adding 1-5 or even 1-20 will make it just as messy as it was before. I understand the frustration that it's harder to sell the account now, I too have a failed pure that barely gets any views, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.

Like others have suggested, turning the account into another type of account would probably make it easier for you to sell.
 
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Like others have suggested, turning the account into another type of account would probably make it easier for you to sell.
The notion here is that whichever mod moved it was being far too pedantic. 2 defence, seriously?
 
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The notion here is that whichever mod moved it was being far too pedantic. 2 defence, seriously?
In this instance, I was the one who reported the thread and Pikachu actually refused to move it at first. However, after he talked to an Admin about it the conclusion was that every account other than 1 defense should not be there.

You can agree or disagree with the rule, but my statement is that a line has to be drawn somewhere.

As BlackBlasses mentioned above, if we allow 2 defense, then how about 3 defense, or 4? If the thread would have been allowed in this case, then people with 3 Def accounts will also want to list their accounts there

Edit: BlackBlasses didn't mention this in this thread, but in the feedback thread that was made before.
 
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if we allow 2 defence, then how about 3 defence, or 4? If the thread would have been allowed in this case, then people with 3 Def accounts will also want to list their accounts there

I don't play Runescape anymore, but I'd wager that 2 defence is far more common than 3 or 4?

In any event, I'm not saying the rules should be amended to officially allow 2/3/4/whatever defence, I'm merely stating that if an account has 2 defence, it shouldn't automatically be moved out - let the mod in question decide (on a case by case basis). Naturally, if the subforum becomes flooded with 2 defence pures, then potentially the cap increasing from 1 to 2 is relevant.
 
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