The Downfall of the World

EDIT: I MEANT TO POST THIS IN "GENERAL/OFF TOPIC" AND HAVE REPOSTED IT THERE, IF THIS VALUABLE INFORMATION CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO STAY IN BOTH SECTIONS, PLEASE REMOVE THIS ONE.


Before anything, let me say this: No, I am not one of those creepy paranoid guys that fear the government using mind control that hides in my house all day collecting supplies for a bomb shelter. I live my life like a normal person, I just truly believe these conspiracies.

This thread is going to cover MANY areas on conspiracy theories. It's going to be LONG but I promise you it will be worth the time, as they all seem to connect in one way or another, and this just might mind fuck you to the coffin. My brain has forgotten some of the details, so where I mention I cant remember certain names or things maybe some of you who have heard the conspiracies will remember them and remind me so I can update the post to better educate the masses. Also note, that if any of these videos are taken down just search the movie name or tv show name+episode name on youtube to find another version as Im sure there will ALWAYS be one.

So before I actually begin this, you will need to know who the Bilderberg group is. It is alleged that the group has become a kind of global government, controlling not only international politics and economics, but even culture. It is rumored that a number of famous individuals including the Clintons are a part of the group. The ultra-secret Bilderberg Group is a meeting of a hundred or so of the world’s most powerful people, including heads of state, prime ministers and even royalty. Incredibly, the fate of the world is decided at these annual meetings that are strictly off-limits to all the rest of us. It is highly believed that the Bilderbergs are part of the Illuminati or even IS the Illuminati. Now, moving on...

Ok. I will start this off with the presidents. It is said that there has not been a "real" president since JFK. The rest of the presidents have been "puppets". The puppet masters, the Bilderberg group. Even Obama was caught attending a secret Bilderberg meeting! I could be wrong here, but I believe the footage of this in Alex Jones's movie "The Obama Deception" Its a full length movie, so you may not have time to watch it all, but here it is on youtube.




So. So far, we have covered that all presidents from Richard Nixon all the way up to Obama were controlled by the rich and powerful. Lets rewind a tad bit and cover more on JFK. It is highly believed that JFK was not assassinated in the way the story is told. I will embed another video here, of Jesse Ventura's TV series "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura". Ventura was a Navy Seal. More accurately he was part of the "Underwater Demolition Team 12" and even though he was never actually in combat he is said to be skilled with a rifle. However, when trying to reenact the JFK assassination there is no way he can get a clear shot. A man with military training can't do something an everyday man who had never even fired a weapon before could do? I don't think so. This video also reveals many more secrets about the JFK assassination that makes it seem like our own government (controlled by the bilderberg group) assassinated JFK because he "told the truth".



Now. Moving a bit away from the presidents, lets have a look at something very recent. The Sandy Hook School shooting. This video is also a bit long, not as long as the past 2, so I can imagine youre getting tired of watching these so I will sum it up a little better than the last 2. First thing I would like to point out. Adam Lanza, the "shooter", was said to have an assault rifle and 2 handguns. Well then later, they said the assault rife was found in his trunk and this video has police finding the rifle in his trunk. And the amount of handguns found in the school became 4. So at this time, we have 1 assault rifle found in his car and 4 hand guns found in the school. But the problem is, the medical examiner says all of the dead children were hit with 3 - 11 shots from A RIFLE! but Adam never left the school after he went in... So if he used an assault rifle, how did it get in his trunk? Also, this video shows footage of police chasing another man into the woods and arresting him. Witnesses on the scene confirm this. But the official report says there was only ONE shooter, and the second man was handcuffed and put in the FRONT of the police car? somethings wrong there. A couple of the children even claim there was THREE shooters! Now, lets move away from the shooters slightly and look at different facts. The father of one of the victims is shown in this video, he did not know the camera was already rolling and he was laughing and joking with people around him RIGHT AFTER HIS 1ST GRADE DAUGHTER WAS KILLED! and then you can also see him getting "into character" and acting sad. Another disturbing fact about this man... He created a "donation" facebook page for his daughters death WHILE the shooting was happening! And the first post on the page was about his daughters death when it was HAPPENING, however the fact that she was dead was not released for HOURS after the shooting. As well as a few hours after the post of his daughters death on the page, was a post saying they did not know if she was dead or alive. Now this same family, whose child is officially dead had pictures taken with Obama after the shooting, but in this video you will see that in these photos, their dead child is sitting on Obama's lap!!! 3 other webpages about the shooting was made BEFORE it even happened!! This video will completely mind fuck you, guaranteed. (This video also goes into detail a connection with the sandy hook shooting, 9/11 and a bombing in London).



So, now we ask why would such a thing be a "set up" or "fake" or even "real but not prevented". The answer is simple. To give a reason to take away our second amendment, the right to bear arms. Now of course if this is true, youre probably wondering why the government would want to take our guns away and go through so much trouble to do so. This answer is also simple. A Police State. Without weapons to fight back, the government could take over everything. I will once again rely on Jesse Ventura to reveal the secrets of this conspiracy to you. Here is "Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura". The episode, "Police State".



Now, more questions may arrise, I havn't watched this episode since it first aired on TV, so it may have covered this. If so, sorry to be so repetitive. So the main question I find many people asking at this point is "why would they want a police state?" Well, for the NWO. (New World Order). The new world order is the entire world under one government, one religion, one language, one currency, etc. Now, even though I think Ventura covered a few things about the bilderberg group/illuminati and the NWO in the Police state episode, I know he has an episode just about the NWO. Here it is.




Now for the 9/11 conspiracy. This one is well known so I'll just skim through it without many details. The towers started to fall before a plane hit, there was a reporter already at the scene before it happened, people inside the towers say that it sounded like a bomb exploded below before the planes hit. Now, Ventura has covered this conspiracy as well and makes MANY MANY good points about how it was in inside job. Here is the episode "9/11".




Now, my theory on 9/11. It was an inside job. Thats been made clear. But why? Well I believe it was to start the war. Look how things turned out. It's been found out the war was about oil. So what did 9/11 have to do with it? It was a reason to go to war just like Sandy Hook is a reason to take away our guns. The terrorist group was led by Osama Bin Laden, or atleast thats what we have been told, perhaps it was even led by George W. Bush himself, who knows. What is KNOWN AS A FACT is that Sadam Hussane had NOTHING to do with the terrorists. yes he was an evil tyrant, but we were told we were at war over terrorism, but yet we took down a dictator that had NOTHING to do with terrorism, murdered him and forced democracy on his country. What does the Bilderberg/America have to gain from this? Not only oil, but also the ability to rig votes just as they are rigged here and controlled by the Bilderbergs. This will give the Bilderberg group controll over the middle east as well as America. One step further towards the New World Order.

Now I have realized I have missed some details on the Police State and NWO conspiracies. To back them up there are "the big brother" conspiracy, a conspiracy that proves global warming to be FALSE and a tool to control the masses as well as make the rich even richer, and a Conspiracy proving that the rich are buying up all the water right in the world so they can control the water supply and thin out the heard to make a police state easier to come by.

Here are Jesse Ventura's episodes on each of these conspiracies.

Big Brother:


Global Warming:


Great Lakes:



If I have left anything out that you believe is connected to these conspiracies (other conspiracies, more info, etc) let me know and I'll find videos and post them here.

 

I've read a little bit of this, but as believable as they sound, it's a lot to process and I don't want my head exploding.

I too watched and believe there wasn't really a plane but a bomb on 9/11. However there's always going to be people who will say that those vids an claims that it was a bomb were fake because they just don't want to believe the government is capable of such acts.

 

I laugh at how many sheep and fools will write this off as crazy and not give it a second thought. That's the problem with this world.

 

I grew up in NYC. I, as well as many other people I know, witnessed airplanes hitting the building. Honestly, the list of people I know personally (as if I'm not enough proof) that witnessed this is staggering. It's honestly frustrating to watch people blame pin it on a bomb. If you weren't there and actually witnessed it, I don't think that you can have a say so in the matter.


Edit: Also, please don't think that you're the first one to come on this forum and preach about the new world order and Illuminati. I think this thread was highly unnecessary. If you want to discuss this topic with people who actually care/believe the same thing, I'm sure that there are forums dedicated towards this kind of stuff.

 

I laugh at all the people who have no proof or evidence who sit around making up cockamamie theories. That's the problem with this world.

Alien Lizards actually rule the world, Obama is satan, and the New World Order is reaching near completion. Soon it will all become too much and the world will collapse in on itself where we will find Hitler who escaped to the center of the earth from the hole under the icecaps, with Elvis, Tupac, and Michael Jackson.

The fact is that these argument are on par with religion arguments. Either you believe it or you don't. Those who believe call everyone else sheep because they're 'enlightened' and the non-believers call the believers crazy because they don't actually have any real, factual evidence.

Your videos, mostly I am referring to the Jesse Ventura one, are at best shams. Ventura is seriously a joke. They have had so many exact recreations that have worked using everything from laser sights to the exact same type of gun and ammunition. I wonder where the fact begins in all of this because none of these claims are substantiated by un-biased research. I am going to assume that you're probably going to take the stance that no research is un-biased and that I am just blinded by the government or something like that and I have already addressed this in the previous paragraph. We will just have to agree to disagree because anything I say will never be good enough because I am blind, or a sheep, or any other creative analogy you wish to apply for people who want fact rather than juxtaposition of tangentially connected facts.

 

This stuff can be interesting to watch but at the end of the day its all laughable.

 

Sheesh dude, you're making it sound like he's talking about some extra-terrestrial conspiracy theory, when really he's just discussing theories on how our secret, unknown, and deceptive government actually works. All you can really do is think hypothetically, because we'll never be told anything.

But the difference between this and religious debates is that there IS an answer, people out there do know, and we (as citizens) pretty much are sheep at the end of the day in the bigger picture. The answer is hidden from us, so of course we seek it.

But yeah, if anything, I'd consider someone to be naive if they don't believe there are screwy things (BIG THINGS) going on in this country, and to not question.

A lot of this stuff raises good points. There are several incidents throughout history that just haven't added up, but are just written off like nothing. Never brought up, never tested, never questioned, etc. Sometimes it just makes you wonder if maybe not everything is... *Gasp*... True...

 

DId you witness both of the airplanes hitting each of the buildings.
I find it hard to believe anyONE person could have seen BOTH of the planes hitting each of the towers. I do believe there was one of the real planes that did hit the builing, but I dont believe there was another...

 

I seriously don't understand this and it really bugs me. People are unpredictable and with ease of access to guns no wonder people get killed (12000 per year are killed in U.S) Only 67 in Aus and 11 in Japan, In aus we still have guns for hunting and firing ranges and stuff, there are strict guidelines when getting your licence and for good reason I believe. If anything if the government wants to get rid of guns its for the public's protection. If the government wants to take control over everything as you say and you want to "fight back" what the hell are guns gonna do? Your not gonna be able to walk into congress with a gun...the only way you would be able to attention is by killing innocent people around you *clap clap* fucking retards.

 

I'll let someone else tear up your argument, but I just want to say:

A. "If anything if the government wants to get rid of guns its for the public's protection" - Lol'd on so many levels.

B. "If the government wants to take control over everything as you say and you want to "fight back" what the hell are guns gonna do?" - Are you cereal? What do we use in wars? (I'll wait for it)

No offense, but everything else you wrote is garbage as well but like I said I'm not going to be the one to tell you all of that.

 

Not saying get rid of all together, just heavy restrictions. If guns weren't as easy to get, less people would have them. Less people would die. Simple as that.

uhhh, hes talking about the U.S government trying to control its own people. In war you fight other countries and you use guns and you kill their people to prove your countries point. How are you going to fight you own country? Guns would be useless.

 

Seriously? There's many other countries in the world where weapons are not allowed and they are not all police states. If the government wanted to kill you in masses, they would simply use bombs and nukes. Your puny guns won't do anything against those.

According to the NWO theories, we were all supposed to die in 2012. People who believe it always tell me that "it never happened because people were too aware", I find that really funny.

 

Yes, I actually did. As well as many other people. A lot of people thought that the guy was crazy to have hit a building with a plane at first, because the skies were so clear. It wasn't until the second one hit that it became apparent to everyone that it was terrorists.

 

Seeing as the planes that went into the buldings were on opposite sides. I still find that hard to believe. One plane from the south, one from the north.

WRONG. Drugs are illegal, and are heavily restricted and punishes those who break laws severely, yet millions of people use/distribute them and can easily get their hands on.

 

There was almost a 20 minute gap between the first and the second plane. It's not hard to believe...

 

Which plane do you think the fully intact, covered in rubble, and burn-free passport of the "terrorist" came out of?

 

Beats me, but that's not the issue at hand. I didn't come here to discuss who the terrorists were/if there were terrorists. I came to dispute, as an eye witness, any arguments that no planes (or only one plane) hit the buildings.


Edit: But just for the record, do you know how many places keep copies of your passport? The number is quite astonishing, especially if you're foreign.

 

1 plane, 2 planes, 5 planes, no planes, north, east, south, west - what does it matter if at the end of the day, it's all untrue? This is the issue at hand, don't you understand?

"Edit: But just for the record, do you know HOW many places keep copies of your passport? The number is quite astonishing, especially if you're foreign."

Why does this matter if the passport was found at the scene??

 

Why it matters is because that was the issue I originally addressed. You jumped completely off (my) topic by dragging in the issue about the passports. Like I said, I was physically there and saw both planes hit both towers. Unless you were also physically there, at the right angle, and looking in the sky, then your argument otherwise is moot in my opinion.

Why on earth do you insist on wasting your time with trying to convince me of things that I could care less about (as I've already stated)?

Also, just because a plane crashes doesn't mean that everything is immediately incinerated. Plane crashes, opening is made in airplane, difference in pressure forces random junk out rapidly. It happens. Open a pressurized compartment in mid-air and see what happens. You'll be sucked out in an instant. I'm sure there were other documents released from the airplane unscathed, but never made it into the news because they weren't important.

 

You've seen the fire right?
They say the flames, from the plane explosion, were so fierce that they melted the structure of the building and made it fall down, yet that passport was able to make it out.....

THINK A LITTLE and say that doesn't sound fishy to you.
The whole point here we are saying is, it could have possibly been staged.