Banning people for no reason

It's dumb, and shouldn't happen. If someone claims a service scam, they should have to show proof that I had refused to complete the service, or refused to refund them, instead of believing a new, untrustworthy member when they say "I tried to contact him but failed". When someone has completed over 200 Kiln orders, for an about 8B+ GP, and been trusted with a collective 50b+ with not a single complaint, the moderation team needs to have due initiative to not ban a person without any proof of scamming. Especially when it was over a payment of 25m, and the account in issue had 30m+ risked wealth. Common sense needs to be employed by mod's. Especially when there wasn't a single reason that merited the user a ban. I've had about 30 people message me agreeing that I was banned for no reason, as well as a market mod.

I was banned without any proof, with unreadable pictures, with a topic that should have been locked for not following the template. Go check if you think that isn't the case.

Now I don't expect you guys to care, after all it's me and my partner that have lost/will lose a potential 1-2b from being banned, for no reason, for 3 days, and not you. It's fair to say a ban, whether justified or not is gonna impact you for the foreseeable future, just as a TWC would.

I'd made it aware on the forums a couple weeks ago that I would be donating a weeks worth of profits (Which would be like 350-700$) to Sythe, but I've now decided I won't bother; should help offset some of the unnecessary losses I've had.

Report post - http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1367908
Response to scam assusation(Before I was banned) - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1342465&page=23
Defamation of Character Post(Before being banned) - http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1368073
Dispute 1 http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1368401
Dispute 2 http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1369007
Dispute 3 http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1369851

Hoping not to get banned, for no reason, again.


Jam

 

You weren't banned for no reason, you did infact have the money in your hands, your proof was words with no proof whereas he did have legible proof, the images at the time were full size and there seems to be a problem at the moment, once the images on a thread are archived they seem to shrink which currently makes them become illegible.

It's unfair to the community to leave a scammer running around while we await a response which we may not even get, even a 24 hour time frame is a long time to scam people, most in this time could scam bills before being banned. I am not saying you are a scammer but from the images I had seen before Snow Patrol dealt with it they were incriminating towards you.

Take http://www.sythe.org/member.php?u=328549 for example if I were to wait for him to give me a response on a scam report of 12m, 60m, and a bit more which didn't even equal his $100 donation rank in reports he would have got away with a lot more than he managed to.

 

Looks like it was rather justified.. You were unbanned, and there was the risk of potential scams.
/no harm done.​

 

Sounds to me like preventative measures were taken while the situation was sized up.

How would you like if you thought you were scammed by someone, so you reported them, and no immediate action was taken? If that person did turn out to be a scammer, a ton more damage could have been done while people 'looked into things', instead of mods issuing a temp ban while the figured things out.

 

It's not as much of a big as you're making it out to be. Staff members can't have scammers on the loose (regardless of it being speculation, or not). It wouldn't really matter anyway, considering if you're actually not a scammer, you would be unbanned. Also, take into factor that Snow Patrol's bans are predominately deserved, so a few mistakes isn't too much to be worried about. Snow Patrol will learn from his mistakes, so he'll improve in the future based on this incident. As you can see from your dispute(s), the staff work to the best of their ability to insure the appropriate decision is reached, and thus, you're unbanned.

 

Hahahahaha. Please, if you aren't posting in your own firecape thread then you're posting in someone elses trying to backseat mod and report them at every turn.
You care only for yourself and don't pretend otherwise. The ban was just and it was never intended to be permanent. You won't be hurt at all, new customers won't even be aware it ever happened. So I think you should just follow Tmoe's advice on this one

 

Even if you did or didnt scam, if its suspicious youre temped until its resolved.
Its just better to ban the person than to take the chance of them actually being a scammer. No matter how trusted you are, its only fair to everyone else.

 

Agreed. Not like there are much kiln capers on Sythe. You're saying that in 3 days you could have done around 50 kiln capes? Demand is that high? If you're banned for 3 days that would drive all "50" of the customers you were supposed to go to a different kiln caper?

You're only exaggerating things and trying to get attention thinking about yourself. The actions taken by Snow was right, what if you really did scam? It would have resulted in a bigger loss (if you actually did). Yet, your loss isn't much when you get banned for a mere 3 days. Claiming that all your customers already went to another kiln caper, being more than 30, we both know this isn't true.

I also think that you should follow Tmoe's advice.

 

It doesn't matter if you've done trades of 100b or 10m if a scam report showing you've scammed, no matter how small, it still holds its ground and the user can still be banned by the report. For example, Lil_melo15 scammed 20m. I believe that's his name.

A couple of other things to note:

1) The template is a guide, in no way a would a scam report be locked and unchecked if the 100% perfect template wasn't used. Just because the user didn't follow it, doesn't mean it can't show a scam occurred.
2) The proof was in the pictures.
3) It's a bug which is currently being fixed with imageshack photos shrinking while in the archive, but they were full size before going into the archive.


My recommendation for next time is to check if the user and log in works next time after accepting the money to avoid problems like this in the future.