Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

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  1. Unread #1 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:01 PM
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    Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

    Scammer's profile link: samoT
    Amount scammed: $10.00
    Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: ImTomas#8513
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    Proof that it's their Discord: ImTomas - Google Chrome (gyazo.com)
    Explanation of the trade: Reached out to ImThomas who needed out of jail on roatpkz. Came to an agreement of $10 upfront and $10 after the mac address bypass was complete ( logging into any other account as stated in the photos )
    How they scammed: Upon reaching out to ImThomas aka - samoT, I mentioned I had a method that will get him out of jail on Roatpkz. I had him show me proof that it was a "MAC JAIL" rather then an account jail. Take in mind, I mentioned a few times and made it clear that he will be able to login to any OTHER account after he bypasses the mac jail. Meaning: He would be able to play scotch free on any other account and avoid the other account being jailed. When I spoke to him, he basically made it seem like I was giving misleading information, although I was quite clear. I couldn't word everything exactly how I wanted to because I did not want to expose this bypassing method and sell myself away. If I were to mine the ore out for him, it would be a different situation. He simply wasn't going to mine the ore of 4,000 to be freed from jail or pay the fee of 100,000 osrs gp each ore. I would really like some staff input on this whole situation. If I am in the wrong, I'll accept the fact and refund him. I'm not here for bad blood to fight or nitpick with him on this allegation. I honestly would like the other $10.00 from him.
    Seen in the photos beneath, it shows that I clearly state "You will be able to log into any ( other ) account, meaning not his main account that is jailed.

    Extra information: ImThomas is currently getting ready to sleep rite now he mentioned and has work tomorrow. If he does not respond, that is why. Again, I don't want any bad blood here. Just want to work this out with him so both of us are happy. Staffs input is definitely needed.

    Thank you for taking your time to read this,
    dearlola1


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  3. Unread #2 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:14 PM
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    Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

    Yes, im not trying to scam or anything, not hiding or doing some shit. Just want the opinion of more people. I wanted to make same post tomorrow after work.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:22 PM
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    Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

    @dearlola1
    I've read the entire chat log. You only started mentioning that this only works on other accounts when he had already paid you.

    In the very beginning you implied that you'd get him out of jail.
    You have sold him a method to create a new account without getting banned, that's not what he has asked for and not what he agreed to.

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    Unless I'm missing some chat logs here, you've not provided what @samoT has paid for.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:24 PM
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    Thats exactly what i tried to explain him. Im on phone right now, so if he dont add missing parts, i can upload it tomorrow after work.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:32 PM
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    Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

    That's understandable @Zora as mentioned I am not here to take from this man or scam at all. Just want to clear this up. Thought I had made it a bit clear that he can make any other account and play the game freely. I didn't want to mention that he cannot play that account but yet play any other, as that would be basically selling myself away an leaking method I would think.

    Then again, I did leak my method to get him out of jail on ANY other account. Mining 4,000 ore is quite tedious and I know he doesn't want to do it which is why I offered this way of method.

    If I had mentioned to him that his account would still be jailed but any other account would be able to be played, my method would be out of the ball park and basically selling it for free if he found out how to do it or gathered any type of knowledge.

    What do we do here now? @samoT @Zora
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:42 PM
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    Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

    If you have any proof that you told him specifically that he'd be able to play on any other account than his jailed one, before he made the payment, please let me know.

    If not, this would be unfortunate miscommunication on your part.
    I can not have @samoT pay for a method he was not going to purchase in the first place.

    On a side note, I have redacted every screenshot that included your method, so nobody else will be able to see/use it.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:55 PM
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    After reading all of the messages, I see I did NOT mention that he cannot login to his main account. I was doing my best to [cover up] how my method works because I didn't want to leak it for (free) and sell myself short. In other words, after he paid I made it very clear that he will be able to login to ANY other account, meaning that his main won't be able to be played. It's very logical and makes sense. I kept mentioning "any other account" to him at least a few times, to let him know and have him realize what I was meaning. I have now just leaked a method I sell to others, basically for nothing and now we are stuck here. Hopefully this is understandable and we can come to a 50/50 deal. Him finding someone to mine 4,000 ore is going to be next to impossible, as 375 ores took me a little over 2 hours. Even if @samoT did not want to mine the ore himself or even find someone to do it for him.. But yet still wanted to play, he wouldn't of been able to play on another account anyways. Meaning, this method of mac jail bypassing is worth the use. It's called "mac jail" for a reason and I don't mean that in a rude way at all, please don't get the impression of that. But each account being made, will go straight to jail due to the "mac" that is being played on.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Jul 23, 2021 at 5:59 PM
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    People already mining, and thats is my business. I just wanted to unban my main account that dont need to mine ores. Now i need to mine it and doing that, also when it will be done, i can play without your method, so it was useless for me, and like I said before, and Moderator said, you mentioned most important part after I paid.
     
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    Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

    It is an unfortunate situation but in the end of the day the customer did not receive what he purchased. I have already redacted any screenshot that included your method so nobody else will be able to see it. This mistake happened on your end and samoT is not responsible for that.

    Please pay @samoT back the 10$. Let me know once this is done.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Jul 23, 2021 at 6:21 PM
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    I will inform here if I get refund. Thanks.
     
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  21. Unread #11 - Jul 23, 2021 at 6:26 PM
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    Ok I'll get this payment sorted. I currently am trying to get $10 because I spent what I had on food. I will update the post once sent
     
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    @dearlola1
    Please let me know once this has been repaid. I have given you a DNT (Do not trade) until the debt has been paid back.
     
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    I will be paying him back today! I have to do some transfers before doing so.
     
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    Has this been sorted yet?
     
  31. Unread #16 - Jul 26, 2021 at 4:45 PM
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    Advise from moderators/admins on behalf of samoT

    @dearlola1 you have been banned for 1 month and you'll be keeping your DNT.
    If you would like to make things right, please pay back your debts and Request a Pardon

    On a sidenote: Selling an unbanning service for any game is not allowed.
    Please make sure to familirise yourself with the The Official Sythe.org Rules

    samoT is however allowed to request his ore mining service, as that falls under a user service.

    @samoT I'm sorry for your loss.

    Techie Edit: This has been anti'd for the full amount. @samoT has been repaid.
     
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