Adc does not have to be ranged -.-

Hey guy title says it all, I believe that add does not have to be ranged like Cait,sivir,graves,twitch etc.

Just bare with me, how many darius, master yi, xin zhao, rengar Kha'Zix
They all carry just as well as the above, well when I play them I carry, but seriously darius ulti penta? He's not ranged yet once u see him in ur game ur start calling him a noob for using darius the same as how everyone called had a noob before his remake, he would 1v5 in a heart beat and win easy

So I just want to see what u guys think?

 

[Saiyn]

Hey guy title says it all, I believe that add does not have to be ranged like Cait,sivir,graves,twitch etc.

Just bare with me, how many darius, master yi, xin zhao, rengar Kha'Zix
They all carry just as well as the above, well when I play them I carry, but seriously darius ulti penta? He's not ranged yet once u see him in ur game ur start calling him a noob for using darius the same as how everyone called had a noob before his remake, he would 1v5 in a heart beat and win easy

So I just want to see what u guys think?

try go darius bot with cait/sona. You will go back to base every 20-30 seconds because they will poke you down. The main reason ADC's are ranged is because they only build damage and they can sit back behind there team safer then they would be at the front on the fight, if you try build full ad on darius, xin, rengar and those types you will get killed before the fight starts. Kha zix is a mid and is mainly chosen to counter ap mids much like talon and they cant farm bot due to the harras they will get being melee thats why in LCS they usually swap bot to mid if there enemy mid is melee because they cant handle the harass and loose a lot of farm.

Darius cannot 1v5 that is a major over exaggeration.

 

That is not always true tho it rly depends on the players skills and if the support u have

 

I build them all full ad and u can check my profile it's all wins basically and I basically always get over 10-15 kills
But that again depends on the support I had ( if he/she rly supported and helped me at all)

 

[gds08]

I have taken bruisers bot before and it can sometimes work very well at shutting down the enemy carry in lane, but I feel that missing a ranged carry later in the game would hurt your team comp alot.

 

but again once say talon vs cait

once talon can close the gap between him and cait then cait is not going to be able to do much? all talon needs to do is e,q,w, and if need be use is ulti

 

[Saiyn]

but again once say talon vs cait

once talon can close the gap between him and cait then cait is not going to be able to do much? all talon needs to do is e,q,w, and if need be use is ulti

if he does that early he will die due to his support not being in position, and his damage pre 6 is bad. if he does this after level 6 he will be underfed from the cs he wouldn't beable to get because of the aggression the adc will give.

 

[Just Sayin']

Late game is the main issue, if the ADC cant stay behind the team, he'll immediately be focused & killed then they'll most likely win the fight.

The joys of a ranged adc is the range, they stay back, poking people & staying safe.

 

talon can use his and yi's alpha strike can farm the creeps?

 

[Saiyn]

talon can use his and yi's alpha strike can farm the creeps?

and mana's gone in 10 seconds. If it was viable they would use melee ADC's in lcs but they don't.

 

[Heeatz]

ADC's MUST be ranged so they can CS without being poked to shit, and be able to poke down enemies to lose them CS/xp..

 

[Akureyri]

Melee ADC's are complete garbage. You can't CS effectively, you can't trade efficiently and you will be completely useless late game when you get insta-cc'd during a team fight.

 

can u say that to a good xin late game?

 

[szskateman22]

can u say that to a good xin late game?

Ehhh... Yes I could. Xin still can't keep up the damage of a ranged ADC. I've trashed a bunch of late-game Xin's.

 

yea but thats probs cause they are terrible, i actually want you guys to add me on league and we can test out ur hypothesis? if anyone is interested pm me,

i might not be on for a week got to do some major assessments for tafe

 

[Tgump]

yea but thats probs cause they are terrible, i actually want you guys to add me on league and we can test out ur hypothesis?

This is because Xin is an excellent duelist. You can't compare these things in a vacuum, you could say the same for Jax but if that was the case everyone would be running Jax +support botlane. Trynd and Fiora are also fantastic 1v1ers but nobody's running them botlane past silver because those players understand winning the game is more than being able to win the lane.

Now a melee 'ADC' bot is a thing, they're called kill lanes. They've been used professionally against the top teams of the era a couple times in the past, an example being Jarvan+Leona back in season 1. The gamble is that you'll create enough of an advantage off of denying the enemy AD gold that you can push in and end the game before they reach late game. Of course, it is a gamble, and it hasn't been very popular lately now that teams are more experienced and able to adapt to cheese tactics.

Ranged champions are popular as ADC because they fit into the popular 'metagame' with a support bottom lane, meaning they have more safety to farm creeps as opposed to the more volatile top lane or mid lane. This allows them to give up the solo experience to champions that desperately need levels, like Karthus. With the exception of a couple quirky champions like Corki, most of the damage output of an AD carry is reliant on auto-attacks, which are typically enhanced by high amounts of crit and attack speed. Generally, AD carries benefit substantially less from skill ranks compared to the bruisers or glass cannons that are so prevalent in the solo lanes.

 

[Sypherz]

yah man I go adc Rumble all the time. once you get an IE and a few deathcaps those overheats are killer.

 

[eennee]

ADC non-range = poked to death by adc ranged. The point of having an adc is to have someone that can do tons of damage from a distance. Whats the point of having a adc that can get bursted down because you have to get close

 

But what if they are not bot and u go top are able to farm etc? Then you could carry?

Ok, we'll thx for in input, but I rly like using melee adc cause I am good with them especially with my pre made team!!!

Also
Do u classify xin,yi,tryn,fiora, etc as adc
As when Im in a pub match( not premade
They call u a noob for saying these champs can't/aren't adc
When when u read it clearly stats "adc" and they can be a back carry?

 

[Saiyn]

But what if they are not bot and u go top are able to farm etc? Then you could carry?

Ok, we'll thx for in input, but I rly like using melee adc cause I am good with them especially with my pre made team!!!

Also
Do u classify xin,yi,tryn,fiora, etc as adc
As when Im in a pub match( not premade
They call u a noob for saying these champs can't/aren't adc
When when u read it clearly stats "adc" and they can be a back carry?

If they go top there not adc lol. they build defensive items prior to offensive.