Ability to change your topic title

[WeRnIE]

It is, but it should not be.

It is not even an issue, provide me an example when it was an issue?

 

[the_dealer]

Mods can't see earlier posts..

Maybe it could be that people would be able to see the previous title, as like a "record" or something?

 

It is, but it should not be.

No, I think it should be.

It is not even an issue, provide me an example when it was an issue?

No issues have happened. Do you know why? Moderators have reviewed the thread titles before acting upon them. If we gave normal users the power to do this, this could potentially be a issue. For example, people edited their thread titles and editing in stuff like "Staff Verified, 10000+ Vouches, traded over 5b," etc. Also, this HAS been suggested in the past, and has been denied.

 

[WeRnIE]

A staff member needs to post and verify that it has been verified.
Now everyone can create a thread by adding [Verified], it is still the same.

 

[Rsaccounttrader]

For the sake of this argument, can we please ignore the fact that changing titles is currently a staff power? Just because something is a staff power doesn't mean it's better that the thing is a staff power.

"Staff Verified, 10000+ Vouches, traded over 5b," etc.

Allowing people to post threads in the first place has this risk; should we ban the posting of unmoderated threads?

Also, this HAS been suggested in the past, and has been denied.

As this is a suggestion with no clear right or wrong answer, reconsideration should be and hopefully will be allowed. Arguments against it from the past suggestion thread may be used, but reconsideration is essential. Why do you think there are appeals courts?

I still don't think it's a good idea. Think of it as security, we check if the title is appropriate and then change it. Donors could abuse this.

Ideologically, this is an unsound argument/double standard as you already allow unmoderated posts and threads to be posted. I.E. if you were a legal system, allowing unmoderated threads and posts to be posted would be enough evidence for allowing the editing of both the threads and the posts.

 

[Bl0w Ranq]

As this is a suggestion with no clear right or wrong answer, reconsideration should be and hopefully will be allowed. Arguments against it from the past suggestion thread may be used, but reconsideration is essential. Why do you think there are appeals courts?

This is totally true.
But Wulfspade's opinion is clear for me too.
I've changed my mind, i do not really know if i still support this.

 

[Noss.]

I would love this, Supporting. I really don't see in what way this could be abused.​

 

[Aesiir]

Should only be allowed to change once every several weeks in my opinion. For my training services I know it'd be a lot easier for me to update my vouches in title rather than annoying a mod about it lol
Support.

 

[Beav3r]

This is totally true.
But Wulfspade's opinion is clear for me too.
I've changed my mind, i do not really know if i still support this.

If this is only for high donators, its unlikely this will be abused.

 

If this is only for high donators, its unlikely this will be abused.

How can you be so sure? Some donors donate $200 or $300 to scam amounts higher than that. For example: Billy Talent.

 

[WeRnIE]

Bl0w, you did not understood rsaccounttrader, he said everything very well and he supports it.
Not for high donator only, for everyone, or atleast for all donators.

Do not talk about issues, if you want to - provide the examples which would be different from a current system.
I know hundreds of forums where you can edit the titles - nowhere was any abuse of it.
You take it too serious, this should be allowed.

 

[Bl0w Ranq]

Bl0w, you did not understood rsaccounttrader, he said everything very well and he supports it.
Not for high donator only, for everyone, or atleast for all donators.

Do not talk about issues, if you want to - provide the examples which would be different from a current system.
I know hundreds of forums where you can edit the titles - nowhere was any abuse of it.
You take it too serious, this should be allowed.

My bad i guess, i still dont know how to think about this.
If you say there are tons of forums where this is allowed, and there is not any abuse, they might considder to use it for a while, see how it goes on sythe, and decide then to make it permanently, or remove it.

 

[WeRnIE]

Good suggestion.

 

[Ganzta-Freak]

Should only be allowed to change once every several weeks in my opinion. For my training services I know it'd be a lot easier for me to update my vouches in title rather than annoying a mod about it lol
Support.

Exactly what this man said, was what I was going to write. Only once a week, or something, should you be allowed to change your thread title. This would be a lot easier for people, who own shops, and often want to update how many vouches they have, as they keep getting more and more. The vouches thing is just an example. This could be used for many things. You have my support. For donors, that is.

 

[Beav3r]

How can you be so sure? Some donors donate $200 or $300 to scam amounts higher than that. For example: Billy Talent.

Make lying in your title a banable offense. But besides, what is the worst they could edit into their title?
[$1000 donor] (when they aren't) or [Global Mod] (when they aren't)? Wouldn't it be obvious they are not when you open the thread?

 

[SuF]

I still don't think it's a good idea. Think of it as security, we check if the title is appropriate and then change it. Donors could abuse this.

You could always just make a new thread with what ever name you wanted........................................................................................ etc.

 

[malakadang]

No support, not even for high rank donors like myself.

2 reasons:

Potential for abuse.

Yes, people could abuse this. While for the most part people are good, there is a chance that this could be abused. The suggestion I've read (brief skim) is a staff verifying the change before it gets implemented (?) This is redundant, might as well PM the staff initially.

It's fast enough to PM a staff member.

Assuming you do have a verification process, the speed at which your title gets changed is already very fast by a simple PM.

Assuming you do not have a verification process, coupled with point 1, you save around a few minutes, big woop.


As for the point of saving the mods time. Moderators volunteer to moderate Sythe.org If changing titles isn't moderating, then something has gone amiss in their mod title.

 

[WeRnIE]

Mala, Staff members needs to post when they verify the items.
Plus, it is a bannable offence and you can simply create such a thread.

It is not fast, I wanted to change my thread title, PM'ed 3 times, it is still not changed, like 7 days passed.

And it would save moderators time, they have their free time too, they need to do other things, to check scam reports, check moderator's logs.

 

[malakadang]

Mala, Staff members needs to post when they verify the items.

Not sure what this means. What items?

Plus, it is a bannable offence and you can simply create such a thread.

Creating a thread and editing a thread title are two very different things. One could have 10,000 views, the other none.

It is not fast, I wanted to change my thread title, PM'ed 3 times, it is still not changed, like 7 days passed.

Did you PM a global?

I PMed FireZ for a quick change to one of my threads; less than 5 minutes easily.

And it would save moderators time, they have their free time too, they need to do other things, to check scam reports, check moderator's logs.

They volunteer to moderate the forums, I do not see any additional workload in all but 30-60 seconds of editing.

 

[WeRnIE]

Mala, a member can not add [verified] to its title if a moderator did not post in his thread and did not confirmed that he indeed verified.

Your second sentence is nonsence, in both ways it is a bannable offence.

Yes, a global.

Yes, they volunteer, but while doing this, they could do other work and would do it faster.