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Cutem thats exactly the problem, people like us with 15 posts are the ones who came to deal real business, but the kids whove been scamming for months and have a post count of 200 are far more trusted? its a flawed system that can be fixed. Thanks for your support.

Well, I don't think trusted is necessarily the best word, but they get more posts per views because their offers are (usually) too good to be true.
 
I'm amazed that the slogan actually attracted people to trade here.
 
How about learning from your mistakes?
 
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Instead of telling us we need to implement measures to prevent this, how about telling us WHICH measures we need to implement. We work hard to keep people safe, if you don't use an OMM when you trade then you trade at your own risk.
 
I see your point, and I support, but there are some people like me who don't scam, but aren't trusted yet.

About the middle manning system, yes, it needs a HUGE overhaul. Huge support there.

Sorry about your money, hope you get some of it back, or at least catch the people who are scamming you.

Good luck, and much support.

Actually LIES. I was going to make a scam statistics thread but I may as well show you this.
Just a warning, there's statistics are only about 95% correct due to human error.

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This is Septembers scam statistics. Looks like the main culprits are Active Mems + Forum Addicts, obviously the ones that are going to scam get their post count to a sort of iffy trusted state before they scam. Post count doesn't dictate trustworthiness is a lie, statistically incorrect.

But don't overgeneralize though, not all of leechers/members/active mems/forum add are scammers though.
 
Actually LIES. I was going to make a scam statistics thread but I may as well show you this.
Just a warning, there's statistics are only about 95% correct due to human error.

Code:
Leechers
3
Members
8
Active Members
13
Forum Addicts
13
Donators
2
TwCs
1

This is Septembers scam statistics. Looks like the main culprits are Active Mems + Forum Addicts, obviously the ones that are going to scam get their post count to a sort of iffy trusted state before they scam. Post count doesn't dictate trustworthiness is a lie, statistically incorrect.

But don't overgeneralize though, not all of leechers/members/active mems/forum add are scammers though.

My point wasn't about actual statistics, it was about the general thought is that leechers are less trustworthy than someone of higher postcount.
Not saying this is true, but it is certainly a factor in determining trustworthiness in some people's minds.
 
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So in the past 48 hours Ive been scammed 100 dollars. 60 dollars on an account which the seller managed to recover, 25 dollars on gold I was gonna buy (we agreed on 25 dollars beforehand), and another 15 dollars for the same reason^^. So far, I am very disappointed with Sythe. At first, the concept of Sythe was extremely appealing. A craigslist of virtual goods? Sounded awesome. But I soon realized that the Sythe community is filled with 12 year olds who managed to get ahold of mommys paypal (spare some trustworthy people like King Tijn 2 :), of whom I will always continue to do business with). Another thing I realized was the lack of moderation, and the poor security measures set in place by Sythe to make sure hard working people dont get scammed real money by pre pubescent teenagers. This system is one that allows any random person to waltz on in and promise virtual goods for a paypal gift, only to end the msn chat once the money has been sent. Very disappointing. I dont want to give up on Sythe. It seems like a fun community, so here are a few suggestions.
-Maybe make an official "approved by moderator ____" stamp or seal which will help the newcomers to Sythe recognize the veteran gold/account sellers? The seal will be an object of respect, which all gold/account sellers will strive for, and will only achieve if they have completed a specific amount of orders?
-How about a more advanced, Sythe-operated, middle manning system? Take PlayerAuction as an example. Theyve created a fool-proof system of virtual business by serving as the middle man in all trades, and asking the buyer for confirmation upon the completion of the order.
Well anyways. I hope some Sythe admin out there will take this post into consideration, and make some changes for the better.
Thanks for your time.

At first get some expierence, read the guides about a safe trade and only then make the trades.
 
Use middlemen, check peoples vouches ect. Only trade with people you can trust and if in doubt, call a middleman into the convo.

Also check for imposters, always ask for a pm proving that you are talking to who they say they are.
 
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We will be adding a Sythe verified system (similar to paypal verified) in the future. But for now you'll have to find other mechanisms by which to gauge the trustworthiness of your trading partners.

Check vouches, scammer reports, etc, and always use a trusted mm for large trades.

The trading floor of sythe.org is quite open plan; we do have some proactive measures against scammers (such as a robust IP checking system), but the majority of what we do in scammer prevention is reactionary (i.e. banning scammers.) You are the first line of defense when it comes to protecting yourself from scammers.
 
We will be adding a Sythe verified system (similar to paypal verified) in the future. But for now you'll have to find other mechanisms by which to gauge the trustworthiness of your trading partners.

Check vouches, scammer reports, etc, and always use a trusted mm for large trades.

The trading floor of sythe.org is quite open plan; we do have some proactive measures against scammers (such as a robust IP checking system), but the majority of what we do in scammer prevention is reactionary (i.e. banning scammers.) You are the first line of defense when it comes to protecting yourself from scammers.

Is there any chance you can provide more detail on this verified system? I don't exactly know what you mean, do you mean that we will be having to post our real information on the site? But only for verification purposes and for moderators to view most likely. Am I right? or is it a bit different?
 
We will be adding a Sythe verified system (similar to paypal verified) in the future. But for now you'll have to find other mechanisms by which to gauge the trustworthiness of your trading partners.
Glad my idea might get put to use, finally.
 
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Is there any chance you can provide more detail on this verified system? I don't exactly know what you mean, do you mean that we will be having to post our real information on the site? But only for verification purposes and for moderators to view most likely. Am I right? or is it a bit different?

It'll be an optional system. You get verified status by submitting ID documents to some of the staff, so we can check you over. It's only in the pre-planning stages atm.
 
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It won't be possible for everyone, so this should be done only for the big traders.

For example, when you reach 1000-2000$ in vouches, you need to verify your identity.
 
It won't be possible for everyone, so this should be done only for the big traders.

For example, when you reach 1000-2000$ in vouches, you need to verify your identity.
If the idea is anything like what I proposed to him, then it'll mostly target the smaller traders, as the big traders already have trust.
Lets say person A just joined, and has a lot of Membership Upgrades to sell.
Person A is selling them cheap, but no one trusts him.
He applies for verification, and provides certain information about himself, and it gets verified.
The member is then more trusted and can sell his product more efficiently.

Also, hello Sythe. Finally got around to reading those PT books; very interesting.
 
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