Gfx

[Crispy]

I would love to see the ability to vouche for gfx's, i take my time out of my day to do payed gfxing and I am not able to get vouched or vouche for it.

People always say dont trust vouches they mean nothing if they are a scammer, if that is true then why not let us vouche for a gfx if it doesn't mean anything.
Also you have to trust people in gfx trades hence why you water mark it.

So vouching would show trust as well...

Others opinions on this if you are to lazy to look through:

Not the point, I support this suggestion as just as much time is put into making gfx (Maybe even more) then there is training some ones account.

I think vouching for signatures should be allowed but only to be used in the "GFX" market place, and as a reference to your future customers only. Anyone can just make a signature although I agree it takes a lot of time and effort to create your work but you do get paid for it and I think thats good enough.

A watermark is kind of like a mm for gfx trades. if you get what I'm coming from.
You don't get scammed if you use a mm correct? Sometimes people chose to use a mm correct? Same with watermarks.

I loved doing GFX back when I was doing it for free. I found it more than a little disappointing when I discovered that my vouches for it didn't count

Vouching isnt just for trust though, its for skill aswell, maybe only allowing vouches for paid work.. I dont know it would be hard to regulate but vouches could be used in graphics to show the users skill and reputation, you just need to come up with a way to limit it being done for poor work such as what Gohan said..

The value of a vouch is determined by how the buyer percieves vouches. So why not allow them, and they will be worthless to people who view them as worthless

This. Isn't it the value of the vouches that count?

Then again I do see why this isn't allowed as well. Like with many other issues, I don't see how it's such a big deal. If the OP makes so many sigs and is so well known then trust shouldn't be an issue. At the end of the day it's not about the vouches, it's about you. It's about your reputation. It's about whether or not you present yourself professionally so others perceive you to be someone they can trust.

EDIT: And anyone who thinks that making GFX and GFX in general has no value needs to seriously rethink their own argument. It's essentially labor. You're paying someone for their time to create a product. You pay a MM for their time. You pay a skiller for their time. You pay people for their time all the time. It doesn't matter what they are producing. You are paying them money and trusting them to complete the assignment you have given them. Thus, it has value. I can understand why the OP is so frustrated with all the lowlifes trying to annoy him with half-assed arguments. If you're going to disagree, disagree intelligently.

There are graphics that are sold online that are worth substantially more than your pins and Runescape pixels, so get off your pedestal and at the very least try to see the situation from the OP's point of view. If you were him, and you specialized in graphics, how would you feel?

Yes, this is a Runescape cheating forum but it is also a lot more. You can't fault him for finding his niche in this community and trying to develop it.

EDIT 2:

I could see you falling for this. Do you people not check whether or not vouches are legitimate or what the vouches are for at all?
I see people saying "if you're dumb enough to fall for it then you probably deserve it" all the time on this forum. This applies here as well.
Anyone with half a brain can easily tell whether or not someone is legit with a little research.

 

[demrod]

If you want vouches do something different.

 

[Crispy]

If you want vouches do something different.

Ok say you loved doing gfx's and nothing else. Would you want to just find something else to do? let me awnser that. NO you wouldn't

 

[Solo]

If you want vouches do something different.

Not the point, I support this suggestion as just as much time is put into making gfx (Maybe even more) then there is training some ones account.

 

[Crispy]

Not the point, I support this suggestion as just as much time is put into making gfx (Maybe even more) then there is training some ones account.

Yea exactly, the only problem i see with this tho is people just throwing together a bunch of shit and handing it out and requiring vouches.

But just like in the market, pins, pins is the easiest way to get vouches in the market and requires u to do nothing but bill them and most of the pinsellers including skele and hahanerd45 and finn prolly use ********s.

 

[FireZ]

Wild accusations there huh?

Anyways GFX vouches aren't allowed and never will be.


http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=303209

 

[Crispy]

Wild accusations there huh?

Anyways GFX vouches aren't allowed and never will be.


http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=303209

Tho I wish staff would come up with an alternative to benfit gfxers.

 

[Crispy]

no more thoughts?

 

[Sindrefyrn]

GFX trading doesn't really include any trust. Vouches are given for trust, not for the effort.

 

[Crispy]

GFX trading doesn't really include any trust. Vouches are given for trust, not for the effort.

If trust isn't given in vouches then why are people sometimes scammed with gfx's and why do we have to water mark our work to keep people from scamming us. Doing a succesfull gfx trade shows trust hence why it has the word trade in it

 

[Sindrefyrn]

If trust isn't given in vouches then why are people sometimes scammed with gfx's and why do we have to water mark our work to keep people from scamming us. Doing a succesfull gfx trade shows trust hence why it has the word trade in it

What someone does when trading is watermarking their work, sending it to the buyer. If the buyer finds it good (s)he'll send money, and seller sends then the GFX without watermark.

Where's the point anyone would scam?

 

[w000t]

A watermark is kind of like a mm for gfx trades. if you get what I'm coming from.
You don't get scammed if you use a mm correct? Sometimes people chose to use a mm correct? Same with watermarks.

 

[Crispy]

If gfxing didnt have anything to do with trust then why would somone think up to use watermarks.

 

[Crispy]

What someone does when trading is watermarking their work, sending it to the buyer. If the buyer finds it good (s)he'll send money, and seller sends then the GFX without watermark.

Where's the point anyone would scam?

Also just like in any trade, going first is optional. Even in the black market. People have the option to not water mark there work just like people have the option to not use an mm/omm.

 

Sure let me just pull paint up, make a quick sig and have someone vouch me for it.

 

[Matt Hasty]

I think vouching for signatures should be allowed but only to be used in the "GFX" market place, and as a reference to your future customers only. Anyone can just make a signature although I agree it takes a lot of time and effort to create your work but you do get paid for it and I think thats good enough.

 

[Crispy]

I think vouching for signatures should be allowed but only to be used in the "GFX" market place, and as a reference to your future customers only. Anyone can just make a signature although I agree it takes a lot of time and effort to create your work but you do get paid for it and I think thats good enough.

That's the goal of this.

 

[Crispy]

Sure let me just pull paint up, make a quick sig and have someone vouch me for it.

Ok? Make it mandatory to put the gfx in the vouche so people will know if ur screwing around or not..


also... thats what people do with pins. Pinsellers say, "o you want to buy a pin? Let me open my ******** and get you one" 10 seconds later vouche..


I'm not saying i own or use a pinline btw

 

[Sindrefyrn]

Also just like in any trade, going first is optional. Even in the black market. People have the option to not water mark there work just like people have the option to not use an mm/omm.

There's trust involved when trading using a middleman too, trust to the middleman. However, it's not when watermarking. Vouches are given for trust.

Therefore, there should not be given vouches for GFX trading.
^That's it right there.

 

[w000t]

There's trust involved when trading using a middleman too, trust to the middleman. However, it's not when watermarking. Vouches are given for trust.

Therefore, there should not be given vouches for GFX trading.
^That's it right there.

Okay but people can vouch for free services done on a level 3 account straight off of the tut right?