Moderators

[DaveyB]

Before you infract me for posting a suggestion from the 'do not suggest list', I am NOT suggesting you promote more people to be moderators, I am merely suggesting you demote alot of the current mods and find some new ones.
Many people refer to Sythe.org as the 'scam' site, since so many users scam on here. I believe this is because a scam report gets posted, and will not be checked for days, possibly weeks. By this time the offender has had time to scam even more which is why so many people are scammed. If you banned them when the report was posted, scamming would drop a hell of a lot.

Common responses from current Moderators:

Don't get scammed - unfortunately, since Official MM's are hard to get hold of, in many trades somebody will need to go first. Since alot of the people using Sythe are leechers, they will be expected to go first, and won't get even close to a trade if they won't, so scams will always happen unless theres a lot of OMM's which obviously I can't suggest, so I won't.

We don't want to spend hours of our time checking reports when half don't have proof - If the report doesn't have proof, a 5 second glance to notice there is no proof and close the thread, aslong as you keep on top of them they won't take long. And if you don't want to spend your time checking the reports, then you shouldn't be a Mod. Becoming a Moderator gives you extra responsibility to ensure that trading on Sythe is safe, and that if a user does get scammed then sufficient action will be taken. Fair enough you don't get paid, but if you don't want the extra responsibility...step down...let somebody who will actually help Sythe have the position.

Summary:
I suggest giving current Moderators a trial, since they are Moderators they should have to be active each day, or atleast every 2 days. When active they should moderate the forums and ban scammers, therefore spending more time in Report a Scammer. If any of the current mods aren't fairly active, and don't want to spend their time making Sythe safe, then I suggest they are demoted, and the position handed to somebody more worthy. Many more people would use Sythe if they knew it was safe, or if Moderators actually did something about reports, since leaving them ignored hugely annoys users.

 

It won't happen..

inb4lock

 

[DaveyB]

I'm pretty doubtful myself about it happening, but somethings gotta change

 

[jCash]

Give us a good plan and it may be used.

 

[DaveyB]

Plan as in what?

 

[jCash]

To get rid of the reports.

 

[DaveyB]

Answer the resports asap, then theres less scammers around to scam people = less reports coming in, and as I said if you keep on top of the reports, they will soon go down

 

Don't get scammed - unfortunately, since Official MM's are hard to get hold of, in many trades somebody will need to go first. Since alot of the people using Sythe are leechers, they will be expected to go first, and won't get even close to a trade if they won't, so scams will always happen unless theres a lot of OMM's which obviously I can't suggest, so I won't.

OMMs are not hard to contact. Myself, along with a few others, are on for a couple hours daily. If I'm unable to middleman when a person contacts me, I'm more than willing to set up a date. I also read all my private messages; like most OMMs.

And if you don't want to spend your time checking the reports, then you shouldn't be a Mod. Becoming a Moderator gives you extra responsibility to ensure that trading on Sythe is safe, and that if a user does get scammed then sufficient action will be taken. Fair enough you don't get paid, but if you don't want the extra responsibility...step down...let somebody who will actually help Sythe have the position.

The staff does have some sort of accountability. An administrator assesses their activity monthly and sees if they're still able to moderate. Although stepping down or demotions doesn't necessarily mean additional moderators. The staff doesn't have a set limit to the number of mods. Meaning even if a couple were removed, odds are there would not be new staff.

jCash: The only solution would be to allocate a number of the reports to each staff member. I think it was 5 a week (per moderator) = no more scam reports. Though I've been told multiple times this number wouldn't work out for all the staff.

 

[DaveyB]

But what if you want to do a trade there and then, and there isn't an OMM on? Fair point about setting up a date to MM, but the amount of trades that take place on Sythe would mean MM's would have to allocate alot of their time to MMing, and some users would have a fairly long wait before being able to complete their trade.
I believe your point about allocating a certain number of reports to each mod would be a good idea. If a mod can't handle say 5 - 10 reports a week, they clearly are not putting in enough effortto deserve such a rank imo.
I respect your post, but I still believe something has t change.

 

But what if you want to do a trade there and then, and there isn't an OMM on? Fair point about setting up a date to MM, but the amount of trades that take place on Sythe would mean MM's would have to allocate alot of their time to MMing, and some users would have a fairly long wait before being able to complete their trade.

No. A lot of people do not use official middleman or attempt to. We are never overloaded with trades or have an unusually long wait.

Regarding your comment about the 5-10 reports weekly, yes I agree but being an ex-staff member I understand the unwillingness to do reports. They aren't fun, but should be apart of the (volunteer) job description.

 

[DaveyB]

I personally prefer to go first in any trade I do as I don't really like trying to find an OMM that's online and I don't like paying fees. Obvious respone will be fees are worth it for a safe trade, but I guess alot of Sythe users think like me, and just don't have the patience for a OMM to come online. If everybody did use OMM's then they would be overloaded with trades, I'm just saying if scammer reports were answered faster, then less scammers are around to cause problems.
I really believe that in order to gain a mod rank, you should have to agree to the bad parts of the rank aswell as the good, therefore agreeing to check a certain number of reports.
My point is that if you are unwilling to check the reports, no matter how boring they are, then you are unwilling to make Sythe a better place, and therefore should not have the rank.

 

[damon1811]

I made a thread saying how lazy mods were and it got locked, first off Skele_master is online just apears offline and is spenind time in the spam forum right now 6:02 eastern tuesday istead of looking at scammer reports. This is a joke demote current mods and find some good ones.

 

[Fatih]

No. A lot of people do not use official middleman or attempt to. We are never overloaded with trades or have an unusually long wait.

Regarding your comment about the 5-10 reports weekly, yes I agree but being an ex-staff member I understand the unwillingness to do reports. They aren't fun, but should be apart of the (volunteer) job description.

Or they can use a free MM that is trusted.

 

[DaveyB]

Fatih, just because you donated $300 dollars and have some pin vouches does not make you trusted, Official middlemen are there for a reason, because they have proven unquestionable trust.
My point is, current mods don't do enough to deserve the position.

 

I doubt anyone else on Sythe is capable of doing anything the Mods do.

The Report a Scammer section is there to see who's scammed and who hasn't. Before you go on with a trade or something, check to see who you're trading with and check out the RaS. And to what [N]ick said, I always see him online and I occasionally see Daily online also.

 

[raigeki]

I agree
something has to be done about all these scam reports not being answered.

 

[DaveyB]

I doubt anyone else on Sythe is capable of doing anything the Mods do.

The Report a Scammer section is there to see who's scammed and who hasn't. Before you go on with a trade or something, check to see who you're trading with and check out the RaS. And to what [N]ick said, I always see him online and I occasionally see Daily online also.

Yes but since there is so many reports, and so little get answered quickly, somebody could be reported but have dropped to like page 5, which means people have to sit through pages and pages to ensure the person they trade with is safe. Fair enough a bit of research is worth it to make sure your trade is safe, but part of the mods jobs is to ban scammers, not a month after scamming, but asap.

 

[Stuart]

but part of the mods jobs is to ban scammers, not a month after scamming, but asap.

Hit the nail on the head there, Asap. We are busy with our own lives we don't have time to do that crap. Do research then buy.

If you don't want to get scammed then simply search the persons name in the black market section and whalla a list of their activity :O

 

[raigeki]

Hit the nail on the head there, Asap. We are busy with our own lives we don't have time to do that crap. Do research then buy.

If you don't want to get scammed then simply search the persons name in the black market section and whalla a list of their activity :O

If They have never traded b4
that will be hard

 

[Jimmy]

Don't get scammed - unfortunately, since Official MM's are hard to get hold of, in many trades somebody will need to go first. Since alot of the people using Sythe are leechers, they will be expected to go first, and won't get even close to a trade if they won't, so scams will always happen unless theres a lot of OMM's which obviously I can't suggest, so I won't.

Use a Non-OMM MM who is trusted.

Also, you are free to search through open scam reports to see if the user you are trading with is a scammer.