User Education

[SuF]

So. Gangs in cities are your problem and you should go deal with them yourself? No. You wouldn't do that, so you shouldn't do this.

 

[mu-b]

So. Gangs in cities are your problem and you should go deal with them yourself? No. You wouldn't do that, so you shouldn't do this.

I think you are a bit mistaken.

A gang has nothing to do with you guys being lazy.

 

[CND]

Who gave you that quote?

I don't think we need 3 HUE's but its fine. Inactivity is always a problem, but it is not your problem. It is our problem.

Faggotry!

The whole point of a community is to learn, have fun, share ideas, help each other - and help mould your community into a better place. A community that doesn't accept input/suggestions from it's users will find its end soon enough; and from the looks of it that seems the direction "sythe.org" is going in =/.

A user ought to put in work. That's what he's here for. That's how he contributes to the welfare and success of our community. There will always be a part, and always a very large part of every community, that have no care but for themselves, and who's care for themselves reaches little further than impatience of immediate pain, and eagerness for the nearest good.

 

[SuF]

I think you are a bit mistaken.

A gang has nothing to do with you guys being lazy.

You think we are lazy? You have no idea what we do, so you can not judge.

 

[mu-b]

You think we are lazy? You have no idea what we do, so you can not judge.

Your right. I have no idea what you do because I don't see you doing anything if you get what I'm saying.

 

[SuF]

Your right. I have no idea what you do because I don't see you doing anything if you get what I'm saying.

You don't see what I do since you are not a UE and because you are not me.

 

[mu-b]

You don't see what I do since you are not a UE and because you are not me.

Thank you for proving my point.

UE's do things for other UE's. Not for the community.

Ty.

 

[R33l2r3al]

So they are allowed to be on MSN and post in other sections, just not the UE section. They are excused from being on vacation from the UE section?

The ones that are absent are NOT on msn. They are out of town, not excused from the section alone.

Isn't this said every topic that UE is brought up in?

Yes, and we work every time to do so. There have been a number of new things implemented in my time as HUE to help improve activity. Some have failed, some have succeeded. I don't intend to quit trying to improve though.

So the new sticky is going to be similar to; UE's, you don't have to help people just copy what another person said and post it to make it look like your helping someone. You don't have to make guides because teaching people new things is overrated.

Arguing with this statement would be a waste of my time. The answer is no, it will not resemble that.

So the point of 3 is...?

Pen = Offers advice and approves the various changes we make to the UE section
R33l (Me) = I moderate the section to the best of my abilities
Venom1 = Seeing as I have IRL conflicts coming up, I will need the help, therefore a new HUE was necessary.


To add another point, we are in NO WAY obligated to explain why we do things and how we do it. You complaining advances nothing. This whole thread is nothing but a rant and you have offered NO suggestions on how to improve.

If there is one thing I've heard over and over in my life it's "Be proactive, not reactive". If you aren't going to offer a solution, you have no right to complain.

 

[SuF]

Thank you for proving my point.

UE's do things for other UE's. Not for the community.

Ty.

Ty for proving my point which you don't know what it is since your not a UE. I do many things for the section that you don't know about. All the UE's do. We help the community indirectly by helping the UE.

 

[mu-b]

The ones that are absent are NOT on msn. They are out of town, not excused from the section alone.

Straggler was on MSN yesterday as 6PM.

Sindrefyrn logged on today, he still hasn't helped. How is this excusable?

Yes, and we work every time to do so. There have been a number of new things implemented in my time as HUE to help improve activity. Some have failed, some have succeeded. I don't intend to quit trying to improve though.

I was implying you say the same thing every time a UE thread comes up. Deacons thread as well.

Arguing with this statement would be a waste of my time. The answer is no, it will not resemble that.

Because the statement was true?

Pen = Offers advice and approves the various changes we make to the UE section
R33l (Me) = I moderate the section to the best of my abilities
Venom1 = Seeing as I have IRL conflicts coming up, I will need the help, therefore a new HUE was necessary.

Understood.

To add another point, we are in NO WAY obligated to explain why we do things and how we do it.

I think the community can explain that for everyone; Nothing, besides help each other.

If there is one thing I've heard over and over in my life it's "Be proactive, not reactive". If you aren't going to offer a solution, you have no right to complain.

I have offered a solution.

UE tries to be secret about everything they do, for what reason? Is it to hide -nothing-? I haven't seen a change in anything. All UE always talks about is we are doing things to help the community.

I as well as the others fail to see this.

Ty for proving my point which you don't know what it is since your not a UE. I do many things for the section that you don't know about. All the UE's do. We help the community indirectly by helping the UE.

Would you like a bigger bowl for your bull shit?

 

[SuF]

When I'm on vacation, I still go on Sythe. I still do small things around, but. I'm still on fucking vacation. I still have limited time online. I still want to be having fun, not working on a website. Sure, I still do small things, but nothing big... I'm busy as hell IRL now, but I still manage to keep active enough. People on vacation are still allowed to use the internet and Sythe. People don't have to dedicate their lives to this site.

 

[mu-b]

When I'm on vacation, I still go on Sythe. I still do small things around, but. I'm still on fucking vacation. I still have limited time online. I still want to be having fun, not working on a website. Sure, I still do small things, but nothing big... I'm busy as hell IRL now, but I still manage to keep active enough. People on vacation are still allowed to use the internet and Sythe. People don't have to dedicate their lives to this site.

Then don't take the rank if you plan to be inactive.

 

[R33l2r3al]

Straggler was on MSN yesterday as 6PM.

Sindrefyrn logged on today, he still hasn't helped. How is this excusable?

When did I say it was excused? I have removed people from the team before for inactivity. If I feel they have become a burden to the team, they are removed.

I was implying you say the same thing every time a UE thread comes up. Deacons thread as well.

But the statement is true, so I hardly see how it's a problem.

Because the statement was true?

If you even bothered to read what I said, you would realize that your statement was not true. Go reread what I said before you comment again.

I have offered a solution.

UE tries to be secret about everything they do, for what reason? Is it to hide -nothing-? I haven't seen a change in anything. All UE always talks about is we are doing things to help the community.

I as well as the others fail to see this.

Please elaborate on your solution, because I don't see it at all.

Then don't take the rank if you plan to be inactive.

No one plans to be inactive, that's the most absurd statement I've ever read. Shit happens and people's priorities change.

 

[SuF]

Then don't take the rank if you plan to be inactive.

You don't know my situation... I do more than enough for both my mod rank and my UE rank with the little time I spend on Sythe a day... You can't see what I do, because I don't do shit everyday that everyone can see.

 

[mu-b]

But the statement is true, so I hardly see how it's a problem.

We all fail to see any change. It is the same excuse every time you try to defend those who are inactive.

If you even bothered to read what I said, you would realize that your statement was not true. Go reread what I said before you comment again.

Elaborate why you have 4 user's, 24/7 who are the only ones doing what they are suppose to do, help the community.

Please elaborate on your solution, because I don't see it at all.

Are you kidding me? It's not hard to figure out.

Solution: Have your team members actually help the community.

No one plans to be inactive, that's the most absurd statement I've ever read. Shit happens and people's priorities change.

Yes, actually they do. People know they take vacations, if SuF can manage it why can't they?

You don't know my situation... I do more than enough for both my mod rank and my UE rank with the little time I spend on Sythe a day... You can't see what I do, because I don't do shit everyday that everyone can see.

I don't care about your programming rank. This is about UE, not programming.

Why is there a team to educate users when they aren't the ones educating them?

 

[SuF]

The team is made to keep a education section nice and good. The rank shows that they have proven them selves worthy of wearing it for helping others, and our public activity lacks but so does the staff's. Some of the best people in both these groups have almost no public activity, and you guys have to deal with that.

 

[mu-b]

The team is made to keep a education section nice and good. The rank shows that they have proven them selves worthy of wearing it for helping others, and our public activity lacks but so does the staff's. Some of the best people in both these groups have almost no public activity, and you guys have to deal with that.

:laugh: lol'd.

The team is made to keep a education section nice and good.

Which section is this?

Help and Request? No UE's there.

Guides? When was the last time a UE made a guide, Straggler?

The rank shows that they have proven them selves worthy of wearing it for helping others, and our public activity lacks but so does the staff's.

I fail to see any UE's helping people.

All you have to do is make 5 guides, not much of a challenge there.

 

[Shin]

:laugh: lol'd.

Why are you laughing?

Which section is this?

Help and Request? No UE's there.

We are there. Why would we respond to questions already answered? I'm sure we can read the stickies actually.

Guides? When was the last time a UE made a guide, Straggler?

Point being? UE's are not required to write Guides. They are to help out others in the composure of their Guides, the H&R sub-forum, and helping out others elsewhere throughout Sythe.

I fail to see any UE's helping people.

Excuse me?

All you have to do is make 5 guides, not much of a challenge there.

Well then. If your application is denied, you'll have 5 more created in 2 hours for us to re-vote?

P.S. You're getting on my bad side now.

 

[mu-b]

We are there. Why would we respond to questions already answered? I'm sure we can read the stickies actually.

Actually, you all do answer questions that have already been answered by using the exact same answer the previous person did.

Point being? UE's are not required to write Guides. They are to help out others in the composure of their Guides, the H&R sub-forum, and helping out others elsewhere throughout Sythe.

It's called User Education you twat. You are only given the rank to educate. Guides educate. I think even someone like you could have figured that out.

Well then. If your application is denied, you'll have 5 more created in 2 hours for us to re-vote?

Don't go there, you know why. I do more helping then UE does together, I've realized I don't need to be UE for that

P.S. You're getting on my bad side now.

P.S. you think I care? I'm ok with being the second hated person here, first being you.

 

[R33l2r3al]

Don't go there, you know why. I do more helping then UE does together, I've realized I don't need to be UE for that

Yes I see how helpful you are by making a thread that points out all the "flaws" with little to no suggestions for improvement.

Thank you very little.