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Scammer Link: salesrsgp Vouches
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Discord: Salesrsgp | UID: 282571090759254016

How they scammed:

The user sold me a total of 98 accounts unregistered legacies.
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After purchasing the 98 accounts, I went to process setting emails my self, I set the program and left my house.

I return few hours later to see 30 accounts failed the email setting and they already have emails set.

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I inform him, he's refusing to refund, offered to wait a week

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Hi, since the start of my career here, I’ve always sold unregistered legacy logins. I have never once received a complaint about accounts being registered — this is the first time. We agreed on a deal of $930 for 98 PNM accounts, which he paid in parts, a total of three payments. He also has the Ethernal client account checker, and he used it to verify the accounts while I was delivering them. He sent the $930 in three parts for his own safety, checking the accounts each time I delivered a batch. Now, 6–7 hours later, he comes back to me claiming that 30 accounts are registered. I personally created all the logins myself, nobody else has access to my PNM logins except me. We also have Terms of Service that clearly state buyers must check the accounts immediately after purchase, yet he’s coming to me 6–7 hours later. What makes this even more unreasonable is that he previously bought Delve accounts from me and checked those immediately, so he knows very well how my process works. He checked each batch of the PNM accounts as he received it and sent payment accordingly. I’ll leave this matter to the Sythe moderators to review. To try and make things right and not lose a customer, I even offered him 15 accounts back or to replace the accounts within 5 days as an exception, but he refused both options. I’m 100% certain that he was the one who registered them, because I’ve never had such a complaint or report against me before. My Terms of Service clearly state that accounts must be checked right after purchase, and he agreed to that. po — Postimages po1 — Postimages po2 — Postimages when he bought delves from me he did also 2 parts of payments and checking and register th em. mm — Postimages Postimages
 
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Hi, since the start of my career here, I’ve always sold unregistered legacy logins. I have never once received a complaint about accounts being registered — this is the first time. We agreed on a deal of $930 for 98 PNM accounts, which he paid in parts, a total of three payments. He also has the Ethernal client account checker, and he used it to verify the accounts while I was delivering them. He sent the $930 in three parts for his own safety, checking the accounts each time I delivered a batch. Now, 6–7 hours later, he comes back to me claiming that 30 accounts are registered. I personally created all the logins myself, nobody else has access to my PNM logins except me. We also have Terms of Service that clearly state buyers must check the accounts immediately after purchase, yet he’s coming to me 6–7 hours later. What makes this even more unreasonable is that he previously bought Delve accounts from me and checked those immediately, so he knows very well how my process works. He checked each batch of the PNM accounts as he received it and sent payment accordingly. I’ll leave this matter to the Sythe moderators to review. To try and make things right and not lose a customer, I even offered him 15 accounts back or to replace the accounts within 5 days as an exception, but he refused both options. I’m 100% certain that he was the one who registered them, because I’ve never had such a complaint or report against me before. My Terms of Service clearly state that accounts must be checked right after purchase, and he agreed to that. po — Postimages po1 — Postimages po2 — Postimages when he bought delves from me he did also 2 parts of payments and checking and register them.


The seller is correct, I did check the accounts in batches, but I checked that the accounts were real accounts and had the stats around what was being sold.

I was not able to check if the 98 accounts had a email set that fast, and that's what he's not understanding.

There are logs for the attempting of email setting + the ones that succeeded can be provided
 
The seller is correct, I did check the accounts in batches, but I checked that the accounts were real accounts and had the stats around what was being sold.

I was not able to check if the 98 accounts had a email set that fast, and that's what he's not understanding.

There are logs for the attempting of email setting + the ones that succeeded can be provided
You did check the delves accounts instant when you bought them at parts. you do sent the money checking if unreg or no and ingame. you do use ethernal client its checks instant what i know. po — Postimages
 
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You did check the delves accounts instant when you bought them at parts. you do sent the money checking if unreg or no and ingame. you do use ethernal client its checks instant what i know. po — Postimages

The user salesrsgp is correct again, earlier he sold me an order of 2 accounts and i was able to check them instantly and one had issues but i resolved it by registering the account that was intended to remain unregistered.

This order was 98 accounts, its unrealistic to expect any human to check 98 accounts in anything under a couple hours...
 
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@Salesrsgp, your terms of service regarding your recovery responsibility is not valid.
If you're advertising and selling your accounts on Sythe you need to adhere to the following:


[Section Rules] Old School RuneScape Accounts
  • Anyone who wishes to sell an account must maintain "recovery responsibility" (they must refund their buyer if the account is recovered or becomes locked and they are unable to unlock it) for at least a month after the sale. If you are an account seller and you do not specifically mention your recovery responsibility in your Terms of Service, by default you have recovery responsibility for two years.


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Since you did not mention a valid recovery responsibility period, by default you have recovery responsibility for two years. If you are unable to recover the accounts for @RW Shop you will need to provide a refund.
 
@RW Shop did you enable the authenticator to the accounts?

Hi, when I added the list of accounts I ran adding auth/email to secure the accounts, the email's failed which led me to figuring out they had emails pre-set. Granted if I knew or had a doubt that the accounts were fonky and might not be what was advertised, i would've ran a thorough check before enabling OTP.

To enable auth you don't require email access.

I will provide him the account list with the OTP keys once the refund is hit, fair enough?
 
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@RW Shop @Salesrsgp

It is possible to add an authenticator to the account without access to the account's registered email address. @RW Shop enabling the authenticators is not enough to void the ruling above, as the authenticators can be removed with a successful recovery request which would have been needed to recover the accounts for @RW Shop regardless.

@Salesrsgp will need to refund the purchase price for the accounts, and @RW Shop will need to return the accounts @Salesrsgp.
 
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Marowak
Kangaskhan
Pikachu
Charmander
Charmeleon
Charizard
Bulbasaur
Ivysaur
Venusaur
Pokémon Trainer
Poké Prizebox
Pokémon Master
Tier 1 Prizebox
Tier 2 Prizebox
Tier 3 Prizebox
Tier 4 Prizebox
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Member of the Quarter Winner
Staff of the Quarter Winner
Sythe's 20th Anniversary
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The Glizz
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May the 4th Be With You
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I spoke with these two on discord and assisted with facilitating the refund and account returns.

I can confirm that @Salesrsgp has refunded @RW Shop in full and @Salesrsgp has successfully imported the all of the accounts (with the exception of some that were locked) to a jagex launcher, voiding the previously registered emails and authenticators.

As there is no remaining debt on either side I will go ahead and close this report.
Thank you both for cooperating to resolve the matter.
 
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