Insufficient proof

Scammer's profile link: @Runestake @Fox
Amount scammed: Lots
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: fox0374 + 1005477784623259769
Proof that it's their Discord:

Explanation of the trade: Runestake claims their games are provably fair. But their limbo does not look like it's provably fair from the photos I will provide below.

How they scammed: Claiming to be provably fair, but the screenshots below seem to show otherwise.

Other relevant trade screenshots:

Here is me telling fox that limbo has hit 1.00x many times as he tells me to just wager my balance on limbo 1.02x so I can do giveaways for his site. Prior to me asking for this, he said I'd have to wager the amount I deposit to do the giveaways to bring people to Runestake:

This happens on the first deposit I do for the giveaway:

He's super quick to respond when he knows he's messed up always.

2 weeks later:

And then again:

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Now for the affiliate system being a scam:

I told Fox a week or so prior to the below screenshots that people that were signing up via mobile were not being signed up under my referral and he said there's no issue. I waited a bit and then signed up myself and to no surprise at all ( because they are scammers/liars/manipulators) The account was not signed up under my referral which means that most of you guys advertising runestake and expecting to make a good amount of money from affiliates are all getting scammed.

Anybody that has bought accounts from me, have had services done by me, bought/sold gold from/to me know that I am not a liar and have never lied or cheated in the nearly 10 years I've been on here. I always believe that if you do good to people, the same will be bestowed upon you and the same goes with bad.

And mods last time it took you guys atleast 6 days to reply to my report. Please do take your time with this one, I am in no rush to get it resolved. I want this out in the open for everyone to see.

Last report Report against Runestake - Potentially $50,000+ scammed was closed with me not even getting to respond.

Mod Pirate just claimed that this platform was just for a bunch of runescape nerds having fun and playing the game, how was that an appropriate response to a report of that magnitude? does that mean you allow scammers to roam freely and will do nothing to stop them just because Sythe is a place for fun and games? @Sythe is way more credible than that.

Pirate didn't even request runestake to give me what was owed from my affiliates. Seems like runestake's personal lawyer was handling that report.

 

Runestake's affiliate system is unsustainable, so they had no other choice but to cheat the people referring others to the site. Think about it, I was getting 1% of everything my customers were wagering, not winning or losing but just wagering. A person that wagered 100k tokens, I was making 1k tokens. He could've deposited 1k tokens and wagered 100k with that. That is not a sustainable model. Instead of talking to their sponsors and maybe making a more sustainable deal, they chose to turn off affiliate earnings and hide affiliate data from us. Which other gambling site hides your affiliate data? Do they have any reason to do this other than to hide something?

 

1. All original games on Runestake are provably fair, you haven't provided any proof that our games are not provably fair.
   
   The only exception of this is the duel game which is done in-game and we have no control over that outcome.
   
   2. You claim that you signed up under the link and it didn't work but you couldn't replicate it or provide any proof of it.
   
   3. Limbo has a 4% house edge, for every 100K tokens wagered on it we expect to make 4,000 tokens. Rewards and affiliate earnings are well within budget of this.

 

1. All original games on Runestake are provably fair, you haven't provided any proof that our games are not provably fair.
   
   The only exception of this is the duel game which is done in-game and we have no control over that outcome.
   
   2. You claim that you signed up under the link and it didn't work but you couldn't replicate it or provide any proof of it.
   
   3. Limbo has a 4% house edge, for every 100K tokens wagered on it we expect to make 4,000 tokens. Rewards and affiliate earnings are well within budget of this.

Is this for all your games or just Limbo?

Which other gambling site hides your affiliate data? Do they have any reason to do this other than to hide something?

And what about this?

 

1. Yes all originals are provably fair here is a quick breakdown for you

Game Breakdown

2. We have nothing to hide, we plan on allocating engineering resources to make improvements to our affiliate dashboard in the coming months. It's been lower on the priority list for us. In the meantime we provide certain sponsors with 90 days data reports to help gauge their performance.

We have paid out millions of tokens in affiliate earnings and sponsorship payments without encountering any issues with anyone other than you and your baseless claims.

 

2. We have nothing to hide, we plan on allocating engineering resources to make improvements to our affiliate dashboard in the coming months. It's been lower on the priority list for us. In the meantime we provide certain sponsors with 90 days data reports to help gauge their performance.

We have paid out millions of tokens in affiliate earnings and sponsorship payments without encountering any issues with anyone other than you and your baseless claims.

Baseless claims? All I asked for was a list of all my affiliates. I asked for it for more than a year after I caught you guys turning off my affiliate earnings from Sexytweetie. [Closed] All that evidence is here. They have closed the report now to save face.

Then you guys provided me a false 90 day report. My claims were anything but baseless.

Also, you guys claim that you can't retrieve my affiliate info after 90 days have passed but here is fox telling me it's downloading?

You did not provide @Pirate with the list of affiliates, all you gave him was the list of affiliates I was already given ages ago, so please do not call my claims baseless. I was cheated with evidence on 3 counts.

 

You keep trying to misconstrue the situation by choice of words and sentences by making many crazy, baseless accusations against us and the Sythe staff.

Yet, you've failed to provide any evidence to support your claims.

We are not bound by any existing agreements to provide data reports to you. While you may have received reports from Fox in the past as a gesture of goodwill, it did not constitute a contractual obligation on our part.

“Please do not call my claims baseless” Here's a list of the claims you've made previously for context: Crazy Yirru - Pastebin.com

Wrapping up:
1. We stand by the fact that we are provably fair.
2. Our affiliate system is robust and sustainable, regardless of your opinion.
3. No outstanding balances are owed to you.
4. We will not be providing you with any data reports.
5. Your ban from our platform will remain.

 

You did not provide @Pirate with the list of affiliates, all you gave him was the list of affiliates I was already given ages ago, so please do not call my claims baseless. I was cheated with evidence on 3 counts.

You still haven't responded to this. Forget giving this information to me, you didn't even provide it to the moderator in charge.

3. No outstanding balances are owed to you.

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These were your own words.

 

Claim 1: Runestake Rigging of Limbo

As you stated yourself, "Look like it's provably fair," this doesn't necessarily mean it isn't. The claims you made about it possibly being rigged are baseless and lack substantial evidence to support them; it's merely hearsay. While the odds are low, there is still a probability that the roll is correct, which is most likely the case. Unless you have concrete evidence of rigging, there is not much we can do here.

Claim 2: Affiliate System

To begin you're NOT entitled to tokens when you're banned on their platform. In the quote, you used it states "Since he was banned".

Sythe staff has already stated that we are not going to get involved in this matter due to multiple legal reasons (GDRP, etc.) and have advised that if you want to pursue it further, take it to court. Furthermore, we will not allow you to waste Sythe staff's time by submitting new reports with additional old evidence each time, especially evidence that you didn't present when you had the opportunity to do so.

While the above is why I am dismissing the claim, the evidence of affiliates' sign-up issue is not supported by substantial evidence as there is no recording of any sort of recording of the issue and you were not able to replicate the issue. As for the three users who signed up, there is a possibility they didn't use the correct link or encountered some other issue.

The former paragraph is why I am dismissing this claim. The latter paragraph is just to provide proof that there isn't concrete proof of an issue with their referral system.

@Yirru if you want to pursue your issue with @Runestake further, I highly advise you seek legal help.