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j2s · Oct 5, 2022

Link the current Sythe account:

Code:

https://www.sythe.org/members/lord-golden.1468663/

Which violation you are reporting the user for:
The rule most applicable here is:

However, given the current pattern that is ongoing with this violation and the fact that it began recently and is still continuing leads me to believe that this rule might be applicable:

I will let Sythe mods determine if either both rules have been violated, or only the former.

Why you think they're violating Sythe rules:
Around October 3rd, Lord Golden began double posting the same comment on his thread, which is "Online!". I have gathered instances of this happening:

Total bumped posts in violation of rules (currently) (assuming no autobump): 25
Total bumped posts in violation of rules (currently) (assuming autobump): 42
Last checked: 2022-10-09 01:55 UTC

Grouping 1:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62853230
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62853232
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-03 05:40 UTC

Grouping 2:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62859826
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62859829
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-03 13:09 UTC

Grouping 3:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62866050
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62866053
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-03 19:22 UTC

Grouping 4:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62875165
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62875171
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-04 4:35 UTC

Grouping 5:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62884184
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62884191
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-04 14:19 UTC

Grouping 6:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62890611
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62890616
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-04 21:05 UTC

Grouping 7:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62897491
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62897493
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-05 03:54 UTC

Grouping 8:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62906306
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62906312
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-05 13:08 UTC

EDIT:
I will include further double post/bumps that have occurred since I've filed this report starting from this point onward:

Grouping 9:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62911923
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62911926
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-05 18:06 UTC

Grouping 10:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62919730
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62919736
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-06 02:12 UTC

Grouping 11: (This occurrence was a triple post)
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62935965
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62935966
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62935970
This grouping was triple posted/bumped at 2022-10-06 19:26 UTC

Grouping 12: (This occurrence was a triple post)
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62940476
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62940480
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62940486
This grouping was triple posted/bumped at 2022-10-06 23:54 UTC

Grouping 13: (This occurrence was a triple post)
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62948976
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62948982
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62948985
This grouping was triple posted/bumped at 2022-10-07 8:59 UTC

Grouping 14: (This occurrence was a triple post)
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62960174
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62960176
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62960178
This grouping was triple posted/bumped at 2022-10-07 20:06 UTC

Grouping 15: (This occurrence was a triple post)
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62968104
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62968107
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62968112
This grouping was triple posted/bumped at 2022-10-08 04:02 UTC

Grouping 16: (This occurrence was a triple post)
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62977005
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62977009
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62977012
This grouping was triple posted/bumped at 2022-10-08 13:46 UTC

Grouping 17: (This occurrence was a 4x post)
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62988825
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62988831
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62988836
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-25#post-62988840
This grouping was quadruple (4x) posted/bumped at 2022-10-09 01:23 UTC

I'll be looking to dial back on post updates but it's fairly reasonable to assume this behavior will probably continue as is. Either way, it'll be possible to verify when checking the thread in question.

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I am unsure if there are cooldowns between posts (although I believe there are), so just by glance this appears like some script that runs in a randomized fashion (as time between each later post is offset) and is currently misbehaving which leads to it executing two times in succession for each bump that occurs.

As for what's really going on here, perhaps a Sythe moderator will be more well equipped to investigate. Thanks!

Dolan · Oct 5, 2022

j2s said:
Link the current Sythe account:

Code:

https://www.sythe.org/members/lord-golden.1468663/

Which violation you are reporting the user for:
The rule most applicable here is:

However, given the current pattern that is ongoing with this violation and the fact that it began recently and is still continuing leads me to believe that this rule might be applicable:

I will let Sythe mods determine if either both rules have been violated, or only the former.

Why you think they're violating Sythe rules:
Around October 3rd, Lord Golden began double posting the same comment on his thread, which is "Online!". I have gathered instances of this happening:

Grouping 1:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62853230
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62853232
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-03 05:40 UTC

Grouping 2:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62859826
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62859829
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-03 13:09 UTC

Grouping 3:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62866050
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62866053
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-03 19:22 UTC

Grouping 4:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62875165
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62875171
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-04 4:35 UTC

Grouping 5:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62884184
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62884191
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-04 14:19 UTC

Grouping 6:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-23#post-62890611
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62890616
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-04 21:05 UTC

Grouping 7:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62897491
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62897493
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-05 03:54 UTC

Grouping 8:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62906306
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62906312
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-05 13:08 UTC

EDIT:
I will include further double post/bumps that have occurred since I've filed this report starting from this point onward:

Grouping 9:
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62911923
https://www.sythe.org/threads/4158951/page-24#post-62911926
This grouping was double posted/bumped at 2022-10-05 18:06 UTC

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I am unsure if there are cooldowns between posts (although I believe there are), so just by glance this appears like some script that runs in a randomized fashion (as time between each later post is offset) and is currently misbehaving which leads to it executing two times in succession for each bump that occurs.

As for what's really going on here, perhaps a Sythe moderator will be more well equipped to investigate. Thanks!

Scripts to bump ur threads are allowed as long as it is manually run each time and not automatically after a certain time.

j2s · Oct 5, 2022

I do not see anything in the rules that state what you are claiming. "Manual assistance tools" do not encompass a script that runs an automated action to post on your thread - it means you can use a tool to set visual reminders or prompts to which you can use as a cue to manually bump your thread (Mods - correct me if this is the incorrect interpretation).

Regardless, the script being used in this instance (if it is a script), is double posting each time it is being executed. This is in clear violation of time between bumps in the rules regardless of which way you try to navigate this.

Finally, do you have any direct involvement with the user in violation? I recommend checking out:
Do NOT post unless you are directly involved in report [YOU WILL BE INFRACTED OR TEMPORARILY BANNED]

Dolan · Oct 5, 2022

j2s said:
I do not see anything in the rules that state what you are claiming. "Manual assistance tools" do not encompass a script that runs an automated action to post on your thread - it means you can use a tool to set visual reminders or prompts to which you can use as a cue to manually bump your thread (Mods - correct me if this is the incorrect interpretation).

Regardless, the script being used in this instance (if it is a script), is double posting each time it is being executed. This is in clear violation of time between bumps in the rules regardless of which way you try to navigate this.

Finally, do you have any direct involvement with the user in violation? I recommend checking out:
Do NOT post unless you are directly involved in report [YOU WILL BE INFRACTED OR TEMPORARILY BANNED]

How to make / use a bump assist tool

j2s · Oct 5, 2022

Fontes said:
How to make / use a bump assist tool

Thank you for sharing.

Waiting for a mod to review this thread going forward, thanks again!

edit:

I will add some additional notes / thoughts here as a final addendum.

The most suspicious thing here is the fact that these consistent double / triple posts happen. If this were a script or manual tool, or whatever you'd like to call it at this point, it'd be expected for it to execute once and only once (at the moment the person triggers it) - because why would somebody knowingly trigger it to double post this many times?

This is the reason I've listed autobumping as a potential violation to begin with and why there's some logical foundation to coming to that conclusion given this behavior is continuing even after being called out.