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  1. Unread #21 - May 22, 2022 at 4:26 PM
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    You claim no customer tried to reach you except Shoko
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    And this is the customer that paid $300 or something for quest cape
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    You didn't accept his FR until you made the payment, pretty convenient so you can try to paint me or itman as scammers and as bad people.

    You have a guy that cannot speak English and literally has to use a translator to communicate with you and you respond to him with "XD, you got what you wanted, that's sad, enjoy" and you expect him to NOT freak out over the fact that you may or may not pay him? He repeatedly said "Ok I trust you that you will pay" and then you go AWOL and not respond.

    As for whether this dispute is necessary or not, that's debatable. The workers waited and with no response from you and advice from others, I decided to open up this thread. The moment you responded and said that you will be paying "tonight" I posted it and sent a DM to Yoshiki immediately. So if my intentions were to just fuck with you or slander you, I wouldn't have posted it as soon as I got it.

    You have absolutely NO evidence of your accounts stopped being serviced BECAUSE they wanted to work with me for weeks. Itman did not reach out to me until 18th of May.
    imgur.com He told you your account needs GP for the service to continue on the 13th.
    imgur.com - You don't answer until the 15th.
    imgur.com - This is one of the recent messages, after you finally responded and he told you that your sote accounts need more gp, you said you dont want the service to continue. He asked you to evaluate and pay for the work done. Since you refuse to resupply the accounts with GP and you asked him to stop services.

    This is fucking bullshit and you know it. First of all there is no rule that says I have to disclose the fact that some of my workers work in other services. Second, you're so full of shit. I never got into his ear and I NEVER told him to delete your server or to do anything to you. You can't produce one single evidence that I told him to sabotage your server because I thought you got him to sabotage mine. I hit you up when that shit happened and talked to you like a man. I asked you and I never accused you. You then proceeded to call me a snake and blocked me.
    If anything, you're the snake who blocked me and was still stalking me and looking into who I message or not message.
    https://i.imgur.com/ygQmqsg.png
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    You're a lying sack of shit is what you are. He approached me on the 18th from someone else's account and asked me to message him on his account. That's when he apologized for what happened.
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    imgur.com - Itman and I stopped talking on the 30th of April, we started talking again on the 18th.

    You say that you told itman to only invite his IRL friends but in your own chat you're amused by the fact that you got most of Kataal's workers doing services for your accounts and your service requests.
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    As for your bots, yes I contacted Titanite and asked him to transfer them to my server. These are NOT your bots. Not anymore. You gave up ownership of the server completely when you said "enjoy" and transferred ownership to Itman and then left the server. So the fact that you want to bring this up when it has nothing to do with you paying or not paying what you owe is just you trying to drag my name through the mud.
    Regarding GP missing from your accounts, I will look into what was done and if there is any GP stolen I'll refund that to you and punish the assigned worker. I will investigate this and update the thread later. It is not acceptable and if there was any kind of stealing then I'd like to deeply apologize. I will look into it ASAP.

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    The truth of the matter is, Tryhard has been neglecting his duties in his old server. He was rarely responding to his admin for a long time. He rarely answers the question directly when itman asked him if he will be paying the workers. And again, this is a guy who uses a translator to communicate.

    - Tryhard rarely responded to anyone and then went MIA for a while. Even customers complained
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    - His lack of answers and shitty attitude caused the workers to panic and they were unsure of whether he was going to pay them.
    - When he repeatedly didn't answer, I had to ask the clients to message him but they didn't reach him either. When that continued to happen, I made the impulsive decision to put a hold on his personal accounts and initiated this report. Looking back at this decision, I understand it can be seen as irrational. I sincerely apologize if I jumped the gun. But I needed to calm the workers down and I had to make a decision.
    - He made several posts with just pure speculations, "if I wanted to scam the workers I would've done x at x". That's like me saying if I was a billionaire I'd never buy anything expensive and only give it away to the poor. How many hypotheticals can he make? I can't read his mind. The decision to make this thread and hold his accounts were based on the messages he sent and lack of general response.
    - I'd GLADLY give you administrator over the servers if you'd like to audit them.
     
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  3. Unread #22 - May 22, 2022 at 4:32 PM
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    Also, a side note. If at all relevant.

    The accounts that belong to him that were registered, they weren't done by me or itman or a specific individual. It was up to each assigned worker to do it since it was their time and energy that was spent on these accounts.
     
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    Hmm? No his friend request got accepted as soon as I saw it. You are literally speaking out your ass and so misinformed it’s crazy. You’re telling me there’s a communication barrier.

    yet you’re doing the same thing lol.

    I don’t care what you really have to say. As I said I’m not paying so it is what it is, move on. Your workers got me for about 600mish in startup GP, not including membership.

    so what if I boasted about having his workers busy? Yes the fact that he stole them was whatever what am I going todo kick everyone out after finding out?

    search “real life” btw lol the evidence is there that it was only supposed to be his real life friends.

    everything I said can be verified via the discord. I told him over and over I’d pay and that it wasn’t an issue. Itman was okay with them completing the full set I’d and me paying after. He then told me to not pay for them and only pay for the ones changed? He’s in charge of the workers btw so I’m gonna listen to him. Those are his employees :) You’re the only one who started causing the issues.

    he knew I worked long days. Also in the discord search it. That I wouldn’t be around some days. Search it.

    But I’m lying! Give me my discord I’ll post 100 screenshots
     
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    And no you hit me up crying he deleted your sever and that was the first I heard of it after confronting him about it because he is the liar. Good luck with him
     
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    You’re literally picking through a needle in a haystack cropping very small sceeenshots and making me look bad.
    How about get the screenshots of all my supporting evidence for me?? Oh wait why would you do that?

    stalking you and keeping tabs on my employees isn’t a bad thing? Lol I was being aware of my surroundings and could tell when he was working with u cause he would be ghost for days. The other discord is a discord he made and I showed him the evidence I knew he did that. Also in the discord.

    Sucks you decided to be this way.
     
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    Rather spend the $1000 taking you to small claims court, wanna go bro?
     
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    Also the screenshot of me boasting of having kataals workers busy, was an actual order through his discord in about to have evidence towards that soon lol. Good one bro
     
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    Lmao, keep your empty threats to yourself. You don't scare me one bit. Go ahead and do it or shut up.

    I'm done responding to you. Everything else I'll say from now on is directed to @Yoshiki or whoever is in charge of this dispute.
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    Itman statement regarding Tryhard's alleged 40m on each account:
    https://i.imgur.com/49H9iC9.png - Broken English version (he used a translator)
    https://i.imgur.com/Zis2QHv.png - Spanish version.
    Blurred out the invite links to avoid trolls, I'd happily give the admin in charge of this dispute temporary ownership access to the servers to investigate further. Itman feels this way too as per his statement.

    I am still investigating all the accounts that he ordered. But so far 7 workers for 9 of tryhard's accounts have come forward and confirmed the status of his accounts. No one has seen 40m as he claims. We're still waiting for the rest to answer. I'll update it as we get more answers.
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    EDIT: I can provide screenshots of the progress made on his accounts if needed. all of his accounts were leveled up from a fresh account.
     
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    Itman wasn’t there to receive or give them any gold. Each account was given roughly 10-25m each time it was restocked. The MM2 ones for surely given 25m each starting. Enough to cover chins and skilling all at once.

    the worker in question is Sammy VZ or whatever the hell his name is that cleaned the accounts with most of the gold they’re at the top of my list I cba to check the rest. Gonna just end up giving everything away to someone.



    as for the “empty threat” send me the info to set it up bro I’ll come to your city and all for the court date and pay for it.
     
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    And you asked literally all the new workers that itman just hired. None of them have been working on my accounts for more than a few weeks besides Kim and jokers my guy. You keep out the important information and it’s fine I’m still not paying but down for the court date whenever hmu in the dms.
     
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    Itman gave Sammy 3-5 SoTe
    And 4-6 MM2 and claimed it would be fine.

    those are the ones cleaned that I know of
     
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    I said I won't respond to you anymore. But I will for this.

    Like I said earlier, we're still looking into every worker that had any of your accounts. If there was any foul play besides just adding a pass/email to the account as instructed, I'll pay you back personally in full.
     
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    I don’t care about the money anymore or the accounts. Keep it, it looks like you can use it for some graphics or something my guy!

    it’s the fact you’re throwing my name out here like this that I’m so frustrated and upset with this situation
     
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    Thank you my guy. I appreciate your unexplainable generosity. :rolleyes:

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    We can close this case right here. The workers don't want this to carry on. I'm happy to let you audit our servers and check all the messages if you want.

    - Tryhard paid $529 of what he owed. EDIT: if I'm not mistaken, $469 is the total amount customers paid $60 is what he paid for the work on his personal accounts.
    - What do we do with the accounts that I instructed the workers to register? Can we give them these accounts as compensation? or do we return the accounts and send an email & password change to Tryhard and he pays for for the progress done on the accounts? Edit: an answer to this solves this case.
    - We're still looking into the person that allegedly cleaned his accounts. If it is true, We'll ban the worker and I'll pay the money he stole in reimbursement. If @CodyBanks still doesn't want it, It can go to the Community repayment.



    Other than that, there shouldn't really be anything else to discuss. I'm tired, he's tired and the workers are tired.
    I used my entire weekend on this shit. That's fucking depressing.
    I understand some people are passing this around because its entertaining. All I really cared about is the workers getting paid what they are owed. He can spin it how he wants and call me every name on the book. It is what it is.
     
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    So exactly what payment for customers did I forget then? I have no problems sending this if you can show me. I told itman exactly what the money went to. The one who cleaned my accounts was supposed to get $60 alone
     
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    According to itman, $60 paid by Shoko and $40 paid by rangedishere has till not been paid yet. Those jobs are still in progress.

    You can either send me the money and I'll pay the workers when the job is finished or you can send it to itman.
    If you feel more comfortable keeping the money until the work is done and willing to pay when that happens then that is fine too.
    Feel free to deduct your fee since these were made under your ownership.
     
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    No offense but at this point I’m going to need more then just words especially because it’s still not adding up.
    If I send an extra $100 there’s only $160 for the workers??

    $226 total was sent for the workers, itman knew this.

    so what/where am I missing more than $100 worth of payments or what? Because it’s still not adding up lol.


    You’re absolutely correct about Rageishere, I forgot to send that $40.

    Shoko I’ll have to check our DMs and see if I refunded him personally or what was going on you drove me into a mad rage dragging my name in the mud.

    but with just those two it’s still not adding up.


    Anything will be sent to itman that is for customers accounts, without me taking any “commissions” / fees I already told you how much there is per order and that $5 isnt worth the headache of being told I’m “stealing more” lol.
     
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    @CodyBanks As promised, I'm looking into the cleaned accounts.

    Do you recall the items that were on the accounts that you said were cleaned? any information regarding this would be helpful. I understand you don't care about the accounts but an accusation like that is very serious. And if you are correct then it shouldn't go unpunished.
     
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    @Yoshiki
    The workers are prepared to settle this.
    I never called @CodyBanks a scammer, the customers/members who asked if he ever scammed I repeatedly declined that. I created this whole report because there was no indication of whether he was going to pay or not pay.

    I made the decision and instructed the workers to place an email and password on @CodyBanks personal accounts because I didn't know what was going to happen. To be perfectly honest he never struck me as a scammer. But because of his lack of response and being busy all the time and seeing the "enjoy, have fun" stuff, I wasn't really sure anymore. So I made it to just have some kind of assurance. I didn't really see returning the accounts with an email/pass change request as a bad thing.
    I understand that this decision can be seen as bad. I do deeply apologize to @CodyBanks and to you @Yoshiki.
    Since @CodyBanks didn't want to continue the services on these accounts he does not want to pay for them because of my decision, the workers are prepared to accept the accounts as compensation so they can either use them or sell them at their discretion.

    As for the money paid, $529 has been paid. The only payment left is for Shoko and rage which @CodyBanks said will pay (the latter) and look into the payment from Shoko.
    So, they just need the money that wasn't included in the $529 and the permission to move forward with the accounts. With that this case can be considered resolved.

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    To @CodyBanks
    Despite our differences and your opinion of me, I do truly wish you well and nothing but the best. I apologize to you for getting this angry. I sincerely apologize if I made you feel like a scammer. I never really called you a scammer, the intention with the report was to pressure you into paying the workers what they were owed. I understand that you are busy with life but I think we can both agree that for some of the workers this is their livelihood and they freak out when they don't get paid or feel like their payment is in jeopardy.

    You can believe this or not, but I truly never had any bad intentions.

    I am really sorry this got out of hand. I was angry too and felt attacked. I had enough after spending the entire weekend arguing this. I think we can both agree we both went out of our way to talk about shit that had nothing to do with this case. I apologize for my part in this.

    At my age, I don't really feel like holding grudges. Certainly not over internet disputes. Again, I wish you the best. Waiting for rage's and shoko's payment, If you'd like to take this in DMs, I'd be happy to.

    As for your accounts that were cleaned, I am still looking into it, I am a man of my word.
     
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    Sorry for the delay, I wanted to get some opinions from other staff members.
    @CodyBanks will not be held liable for the accounts that were hijacked from @undertaker2700 , they are now unsafe for @CodyBanks to sell so @undertaker2700 will need to pay the workers for their services.
    Since that is the only debt left being disputed, this report is now resolved.
     
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