TwoMoreToGo
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- Sythe Gold
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Scammer's profile link: SammyGoldShop
Amount scammed: $1,470
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: SammyGoldShop#8888 - 573278226856673290
Proof that it's their Discord: OjMpKZNDJZ GIF | Gfycat
Explanation of the trade:
Sammy middlemanned a trade for 3.5b OSRS for the RSN [mod edit]
The deal I made with Sammy was that the money was being sold to him, so I'd never handle the money in any way, I was just selling the gold direct from the buyer's pocket into BTC at a rate of 0.42/m.
I then completed the transfer to the buyer's account and asked the buyer and Sammy to confirm it was changed. The buyer confirmed that it was changed and within a few seconds Sammy announced that his ban was for RWT.
He had no proof of anything, said he doesn't record his screen or have shadowplay set up and so I just have to accept his word, the money was gone from existence.
How they scammed:
Firstly, when I started to question the outcome, Sammy said he spoke to some admins who said he had no responsibility because of this thread: Middlemen are NO LONGER liable for rwt bans
This thread CLEARLY states:
"In turn, the middleman must ask you and your buyer/seller before the trade to decide who will be responsible for an rwt ban instead. Generally speaking this will simply be the user who is trading the gp to the middleman."
Sammy never asked us about this and never put any rule in place and as a result due to pure timing/unluckiness, I was the one getting screwed over since the "ban" happened literally seconds after the transfer completed.
Secondly, we had agreed that the money was NOT being given to me. The money was instead going to be SOLD to Sammy at a rate of 0.42/m for crypto. This means that as soon as that name was transferred, the money was officially SAMMY's gold stock and not mine. It is as if I contacted him and said "Hey let me sell you 3.5b of gold" and then after selling to him, he gets banned and refuses to pay.
When I questioned this after the apparent "ban" he said it wasn't considered a sale because if he were buying gold in order to sell, he'd have stored it on multiple accounts with a maximum of 1b per account.
That makes no sense, it's still a sale of gold. If I had said to him "Hey let me sell you 3.5b of gold" i'd still have gone and traded him. If he wants it on 1 account or spread over 4 accounts is his choice but not MY decision to make. Also, if this is a measure to prevent RWT, why didn't he take that measure to begin with? It's been an hour since I asked and i've been ghosted with no response...
Other relevant trade screenshots:
Amount scammed: $1,470
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: SammyGoldShop#8888 - 573278226856673290
Proof that it's their Discord: OjMpKZNDJZ GIF | Gfycat
Explanation of the trade:
Sammy middlemanned a trade for 3.5b OSRS for the RSN [mod edit]
The deal I made with Sammy was that the money was being sold to him, so I'd never handle the money in any way, I was just selling the gold direct from the buyer's pocket into BTC at a rate of 0.42/m.
I then completed the transfer to the buyer's account and asked the buyer and Sammy to confirm it was changed. The buyer confirmed that it was changed and within a few seconds Sammy announced that his ban was for RWT.
He had no proof of anything, said he doesn't record his screen or have shadowplay set up and so I just have to accept his word, the money was gone from existence.
How they scammed:
Firstly, when I started to question the outcome, Sammy said he spoke to some admins who said he had no responsibility because of this thread: Middlemen are NO LONGER liable for rwt bans
This thread CLEARLY states:
"In turn, the middleman must ask you and your buyer/seller before the trade to decide who will be responsible for an rwt ban instead. Generally speaking this will simply be the user who is trading the gp to the middleman."
Sammy never asked us about this and never put any rule in place and as a result due to pure timing/unluckiness, I was the one getting screwed over since the "ban" happened literally seconds after the transfer completed.
Secondly, we had agreed that the money was NOT being given to me. The money was instead going to be SOLD to Sammy at a rate of 0.42/m for crypto. This means that as soon as that name was transferred, the money was officially SAMMY's gold stock and not mine. It is as if I contacted him and said "Hey let me sell you 3.5b of gold" and then after selling to him, he gets banned and refuses to pay.
When I questioned this after the apparent "ban" he said it wasn't considered a sale because if he were buying gold in order to sell, he'd have stored it on multiple accounts with a maximum of 1b per account.
That makes no sense, it's still a sale of gold. If I had said to him "Hey let me sell you 3.5b of gold" i'd still have gone and traded him. If he wants it on 1 account or spread over 4 accounts is his choice but not MY decision to make. Also, if this is a measure to prevent RWT, why didn't he take that measure to begin with? It's been an hour since I asked and i've been ghosted with no response...
Other relevant trade screenshots:
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