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  1. Unread #21 - Jun 12, 2020 at 2:57 AM
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    sorry about that, most my edits have been grammatical fixes & clarifying a point, with the exception of the removal of the gif after @GrandExchanges said he wanted his total exp hidden
     
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    - Is the .jar a source? I'm usually given sources in .zip and haven't received anything like that. The reason i'm not willing to accept a "fix" to the script is because it didn't work from the beginning (approximately 6 months ago). I can't understand how making it eat properly, pray, and click the boss takes this long and each fix didn't actually fix the script. At this point I'm uncertain if the fix is simply a bandage to a larger problem. I don't have much experience in this area.
     
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    the jar is unobfuscated so basically yes


    also you purchased this from somebody else in the past because when I asked for my source code (normally i have my customers hold onto the source when the product is delivered incase they want to make edits / I delete the project etc)

    you provided me with somebody elses decompiled source

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    the jar is unobfuscated so basically yes


    also you purchased this from somebody else in the past because when I asked for my source code (normally i have my customers hold onto the source when the product is delivered incase they want to make edits / I delete the project etc)

    you provided me with somebody elses decompiled source

    - I honestly don't know what defines source. I've been told .jars aren't source and now i'm being told they are.

    The reason I'm seeking reimbursement is because of the time it's taken from the start and lack of distinguishable functionality. I was cool with waiting on fixes because I had things going on irl and didn't mind the wait.


    It's not just a fix. There are features needed to complete the script and there wasn't any indication of said features. Could I simply provide the source and someone can cross reference it with the feature list? The list goes into more detail a little more detail.

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  9. Unread #25 - Jun 12, 2020 at 12:12 PM
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    jars are basically plaintext if they arent obfuscated

    the only thing you lose is var names if you decompile it (basically descriptions of the variables)
    & the comments

    also decompiling it isnt "difficult" or requires any kind of coding knowledge, googling a jar decompiler and pressing play is quite literally all that's required
     
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    & also Id like to remind you, the reason the script has taken this long is 100% because of you.

    even now when I went to go check our pms again you changed your discord username yet another time.
     
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    I changed discord name a few times up until April 4th when I finalize my new graphics purchases.

    I can't take the name excuse seriously as there's always message history. I was promised a final version shortly after 48 hrs of the test version (around December btw) thus I paid in full.
     
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    you have had over 5 discord names since purchasing, 3 of which I remember having strange characters in them not allowing me to search your name
     
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    hey guys this isn't a AOL chat room you can stop going back and forth now.
    @GrandExchanges I need UNCROPPED pictures of the following -
    1. the terms of the sale (price, who provides the test accounts ect)
    2. the date that the script would be completed
    3. any issues on why the script was delayed
    4. your attempts of PMing him asking what's going on, why its taking so long, you testing the script and asking him to fix it, ect
    5. anything else you find important
    Again in uncropped pictures so I can see the full conversation for that topic, providing uncropped pictures to make someone look better isnt the way to do it
    @LordZuku be prepared to do the same, if he fails to provide valid pictures or doesn't provide them all
     
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    1. To address price and providing test accounts.
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    2. No specific date given but he said test script in 48 hrs and final shortly after. 12/6/2019
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    3+4+5. Issues on script delay: He says it's done except for stats check, b2p, and gui. from then to this day b2p and gui haven't been added (idk what stats check is).
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    This is where it continues into another project that I wanted and he was able to complete.
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    From here on is where I suspect development of the script stopped. Keep in mind, i'm not the one that was to be testing the script but I did my best to assist.

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    Logs provided:[​IMG]
    A week goes by I had other uses for my test account since he wasn't on it.
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    This is where I sent him another test account. This goes on to speak about a separate project unrelated.
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    Account #3 given on 2nd screenshot. First screenshot is to confirm the date given.
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    couldnt fit it all in one screen
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    this goes on about me asking him about how discord webhooks works basically, unrelated to the unfinished project and then further into me purchasing an infernal cape from him and stuff.

    We don't speak about this until March 30th. I believe he said I gave him a different script's src that was developed before this and I genuinely didn't realize this. Regardless:
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    This is where said account got "hacked" and in all honesty, i got hacked like 3 times last year but this person simply logged into the account and took the items. From this point I took the testing into my hands. I have been assuming he's using the accounts and testing but as he stated before in the report, he had been using his own account (never mentioned in discord).
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    Problems
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    Doesn't eat, similar problems. This time it somehow edited shift-drop settings within the game, unsure how this problem arose.
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    extended log
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    more recent logs
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    Same attacking issues/eating issues, extended logs

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    5. Screenshot of me having the most up-to-date version because he asked if I did in recent logs.

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    The GIFs depict me testing the script with the Debug console (logs?) visible. These haven't expired yet so i'm able to share them if need be.
     
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  21. Unread #31 - Jun 12, 2020 at 6:16 PM
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    just incase it wasnt clear from his screenshots


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    when he was talking about deobfuscating somebody elses partially completed plugin, another scripter made him a simmilar script & he originally wanted me to deobfuscate their script and use it. clearly he knows how to decompile a script to tell if its obfuscated or not. This means that all the .jars he has can easily be translated to source code for another scripted to use / fix like he requested I did.



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    before purchasing I was told you would provide multiple accounts to test with, I was only ever given a single account at a time with med level stats and low gear.

    testing was done on the accounts, but it was mixed with a max main so 0 kc was gained on the alt as it had suboptimal gear / stats.

    I didnt do any extended period of testing, just ensuring that the basic functions were functional and every enum on the main loop was functioning. basically meaning that like attacking was working, eating was working, looting was working etc..
     
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    when he was talking about deobfuscating somebody elses partially completed plugin, another scripter made him a simmilar script & he originally wanted me to deobfuscate their script and use it. clearly he knows how to decompile a script to tell if its obfuscated or not. This means that all the .jars he has can easily be translated to source code for another scripted to use / fix like he requested I did.

    - I gave you the option to look at it as a starting point. This script was near completion as stated prior. I didn't say specifically say to deobfuscate their script and use it. Again, you're taking things out of context to sully me. Here are the extended logs that ties in with the first screenshot of the large reply from myself.

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    before purchasing I was told you would provide multiple accounts to test with, I was only ever given a single account at a time with med level stats and low gear.

    -Where did it say I would provide multiple test accounts at once? You simply asked for a single test account which I provided. The stats of the account was at the time 85 def 99 hp 99 range. If you had problems with it you should've spoken up.

    testing was done on the accounts, but it was mixed with a max main so 0 kc was gained on the alt as it had suboptimal gear / stats.

    - The alts have the capacity to finish armadyl 100%. The lowest account (first) was i believe 85 def 99 range 99hp with 60m in gear (v helm v skirt dhide body, dragon bow diamond dragon bolts e, twisted buckler anguish, etc.). The gear was more than efficient enough to finish armadyl even once in a solo. Again, if you couldn't do it you should've spoken up.
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    I didnt do any extended period of testing, just ensuring that the basic functions were functional and every enum on the main loop was functioning. basically meaning that like attacking was working, eating was working, looting was working etc..

    - Understood. So your testing was to see if the functions were working within the program but you didn't actually test it in game?
     
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    The logs speak volumes. Pirate will let me know if he needs anything on my end.
     
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    with regards to the alt, you were competing with a max main w/ tbow rigour and full arma.. I tested maybe 5-10 kills in total and you apparently got 0 of those kills.


    the full screenshot is provided above, but since you apparently cant read

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    I only ever had a single account to test it on, and normally the testing involved seeing if the main loop was responsive, basically meaning going in mid way through and making sure it can correctly identify that arma isnt alive and should be killing a minion etc.

    you only need 1 kill to test if killing arma is working
     
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    with regards to the alt, you were competing with a max main w/ tbow rigour and full arma.. I tested maybe 5-10 kills in total and you apparently got 0 of those kills.

    the full screenshot is provided above, but since you apparently cant read

    - What alt? Where does it say I'm using a main. I never stated I would be using an alt or was in with an alt. Especially didn't state any gear (tbow, rigour, full arma.). Stop posting cropped images and surmising. POST PROOF. You're literally slandering me at this point.

    I said I would be having 2-3 accounts killing it, specified in the features.txt (if you read it) I specify that I need a GUI to designate which minions prioritize attack. I'll happily send the txt file of the features if necessary (it's still in the discord logs and able to download)

    I only ever had a single account to test it on, and normally the testing involved seeing if the main loop was responsive, basically meaning going in mid way through and making sure it can correctly identify that arma isnt alive and should be killing a minion etc.

    - Grats. You can read the logs above to discover the ACTUAL functionality (or lack of) in the script in which case, I have had to stop it before it dies due to the inability to eat, eat+pray, etc.
     
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    I've sent you a DM request @GrandExchanges (my info is to the right) nitro user
     
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    Just waiting for @LordZuku to come online before i finalize my resolution
     
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    awesome, to resolve this i'm going to request that @LordZuku refunds 70% of the $250 back to @GrandExchanges
    In short Lordzuku when you offer to make a script for someone make sure you have a solid plan for whos responsible for what. I understand you have this in your discord server, but the op is not in your server nor did he contact you through the server. GE asked for a script and you offered to have it done in a few days. Months go by and you offer to sell him different plugins? or whatever they are which doesn't make this situation look any better. I know you said that it was working, but there is no proof here to show that it was (though i know you claimed the proof was deleted). Which leads to the next thing, always document! It only takes a few second to gyazo and to save the picture which could possibly save a lot of headache in the long run.
     
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    Paid in full to pirate,
    sorry about the tos issue that was when I was relitivly new to sythe and now I ensure my customers read/agree to a tos before work begins
     
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    received the 175 and refunded it back to OP. thanks for resolving this
     
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