[resolved]

[Black Mamba OSRS]

Scammer's profile link: Baod
Explain the service: Refusing to return my deposit and asking me to "fight" for it on sythe.
Amount scammed: 400M
Proof that it's their Discord: http://prntscr.com/s7ztpi
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: Baod#3924 and 498543103381340170
Information about the Situation:

As of yesterday, I was forced and party self-motivated to leave Baod Service - in fact I did.
I do not want this to go out of topic, but I feel that everyone reading this report should know the truth.
Whilst at Baods' I've had many Customers & Staff trying to tarnish my reputation both for myself as a worker and the reputation between me and staff at Baods'. I believe it all cooked down to this situation thanks to all that.

Whilst having a conversation with Baod yesterday (Whilst still being part of the service) - a customer that I had served messaged Baod and lets him know that I as a service-provider on his account scammed some wealth. This put on a heated argument between me and baod, baod believing the customer and I, once again defending myself. 5 Minutes in the argument, the customer messages both me and @Baod and lets us know that he had done a mistake and apologized (Proof - Imgur ) - @Baod still kept up with the argument and how he's fed up of me getting reported.

Kindly note that at the point, I was also in the process of being paid out for what I was owed from completing services the previous 2 days. It took 20 Hours to process the payment from @Baod whilst a lot of lies and stalling was put in place - I even made it clear to @Baod that this payment was really needed in order to be able to purchase online food and groceries for the rest of the week. (Proof - Imgur)

At this point, I have seen and heard enough different excuses, blames, attempts at holding me responsible for lost wealth / bans on customer accounts that were always denied either through sythe or between Managers/Baod and the Customer at Baods' Services.
I've made it certain that I no longer want to be part of his service, even though, one of the Discord Server Owner messaged me after all this argument saying, and I quote "Yo, want to come back? " Proof ( Imgur)

@Baod has went back and fro his word of paying me out my 400M deposit 3 times already, and has now told me for a second time to "Fight for my deposit over sythe".
This is mental abuse and he knows that I'm in a rough situation IRL and I'm pretty sure he does not regret the way he's making me feel.

He's trying to use the Reports / Accusations that were always RESOLVED in my FAVOR either on Sythe or between the Manager/Owner and Customer on his Discord Server.
He's also saying that I've broke some of the ToS's where I attempted to do work outside of his server. This is also a lie, as I've explained to both himself, his Head Staff and the potential customer from sythe that the service was going through HIS SERVICE, as I'm a worker there. None the less, both quotations that I've sent out to two customers, never happened, so @Baod can argue that I "attempted" to break the TOS but NEVER did I break them.

I would also like to mention that @Baod has also stated that I've been attempting to tarnish his reputation by messaging customer / service owners. LIES, I've messaged them with ONLY the truth and as much as possible I made it clear that I do not want to turn a potential application to another discord service provider into a find out of what happened between me and Baod.
(Message being sent to Customers that I PERSONALLY Took care of - http://prntscr.com/s80fiv)

So here I am requesting that through this dispute, I am aided to end all of this hassle and bullying with supporting threats over my 400M deposit. I'd like to have my deposit back, which is rightfully mine.


Other relevant trade screenshots:

 

Hello,

@Baod I understand that you have something to say in your defense, hence why you asked @Black Mamba OSRS to make a report. If you could please do so.

Thank you

 

[Black Mamba OSRS]

Additional information to the mentioned Accusation that was retracted by the Customer.


http://prntscr.com/s83kw6

 

Here is my side.

Forced to leave Baod's Services? Suggested its best you go, maybe.
Or self motivated? Two different things.
But here..You've stated about 5 times, "i quit"

After i ask you about a customers missing GP.
EVERY time you get a claim on your head, Before staff get to hear about it, you always want to quit & be paid out very quick. ( odd )

You asked me at gone 12 at night for a payout, As we was both off to bed,

Trying To reply & Get him to ask somebody else for payment, While im busy at work
Keeps changing your mind on if you want btc or GP, Yes im the only one who can pay gp
- Hence ask staff as you know they deal 07 payments.

While waiting for btc, a Ban report comes in, of mamba suspected botting accounts.
that ofcourse will slow payment down until its looked into and resolved.

Your right, it seems alot has been announced about jagex bot busting,
Looks like they've caught you this time,

Lets NOT forget why you was removed from a very well known service provider on here,
( Suspected botting again ) & i had all his customers pming me slating you,
What did i doo? Keep defending you. & Gave you the benefit of the doubt.

Of course we have no real way of finding out the truth with bots.
A suspicion & multiple reports is enough for me though.

Then a new report come's in of items missing, so i get fed up of the reports on you.
(Yes the customer did later say it was his mistake) but HAS to be investigated at least.

This is where i speak to him like a piece of " Sh*t " in his eyes..

This is what he claims " whilst a lot of lies and stalling was put in place "
That's simply awkward timing & investigations..

FOREVER using my name to try boost his, - LITTLE DID I KNOW.
He's used my name in at least one or two of his TWC reports ive seen,
With out asking me.
& then go's onto try turn it into how i'm stupid or what ever he means by his comment,
Trying to insult me yet, its unreal the amount of attention seaking stuff you send me & staff randomly, - i wont go into it as its your personal life and that's up to you. but wow.

Not to forget he had an almost 2b scam claim report on me the other week.


I then shortly demoted him for a small period of time, i then advised him that he can come back if he again puts in a TWC Appeal, giving the required things wanted.
ID, ect. As hes suspected ban evader from what i hear from sythe users.
( i like to think different & give him a chance )

Im not willing to make any acceptations on my TOS when i keep getting things pop up.
He got his task log/ earnings cleared up after it was resolved that the customer
made a mistake. unfortunately in this world, with anything. services/ paypal/supermarkets,
Customers have to be treated that they are right until the issue is resolved.



Ive taken loss's on mamba a few times now. example
Chad's account temp banned. tha's now devalued if he wish's to sell. i have to make up for it.

This is a message ive received today from a very respectful customer, as you see.
He did not even message me about it, but things keep popping up.

One other case i know of, unfortunately i cant re-call his name, but i had a 2 or so week ago, stating his 13m bank had been cleared, he states he forgot to change his password after the service by mamba. so no real case can be bought to light. Neither will i try argue a 13m case. i happily gave the customer his 13m he claims to of lost, weather it was him or not. its just another report on mamba's head that im sick of.
I have 24 or so other workers who very rarely, if any. get reports of this kind.

To the real point of why we are here.

Our TOS that every staff member from workers to admin agree's on, including mamba.

"Any rules broken may result in removal from the service with Deposit revoked"
^^ Puts him in a situation that he could potentially have it revoked.

Claims he was redirecting to Baod's, Ask for proof of that and i dont get any,
All he states here is he was using my prices, Yeah that wouldn't surprise me, but either way it had not been put past me, or notified me that you did it.

I mean your doing me a favor and advertising for me so you say, - Why would you not pm me that and more then likely get rewarded for it

He then ask's if i have a heart & kind enough to refund him his deposit, Providing this.

Il happily pay him in 14 days if no more comes of it. As there is no real harm or evidence on customers accounts,
Il forget the fact you broke my Terms Of Service.

To end it, you was banned By me & unbanned by Ainz, Who had thought i banned you on the reasons of the report we had in the day. As he felt it was not fair due to customer agreeing you did not take his items,
To also add Ainz is a ADMIN not owner of my discord.

That wasn't the case,
Reason i banned you is this. Advertising pming my customers your offering your services

Also, claiming to have 150+ vouch's.. Well thats not true either

States he dose not want to put an application into another service provider. Yet had this from another reputable seller on here.

Not that its an issue, Its just lies.

I could honestly go on for days & list multiple reports about mamba, But i feel this is enough to show the community.

Thank you
Ps, i may just add some more when i have more time to dig through things.

Add : proof i did ask him to sort his twc & Give him a chance

 

Thank you for your reply, Baod. I will go over it and reply in a few hours.

 

[Black Mamba OSRS]

Argh.... Okay now I'm getting really pissed off.

Why are you trying to bullshit instead of showing how responsible you are?

• Claims about Scythe+ Tbow, Wealth lost off Accounts after my Service.

@Baod so now you're no longer the same person that blamed @mdog189 for setting your discord server up with one of Open OSRS' Ranks Kyle (Kyle apparently is an irl friend of MDOG, A former Manager Rank at Baod's Discord Server, and Kyle used to be a Rank on OPEN OSRS's discord were the the tbow+Sythe "victim" resides.)

Some proof on the above - http://prntscr.com/s8a4od

I also EMPHASIS, all the Reports & Claims including the Scythe+ TBOW scam report were closed in FAVOR of your Discord Server and Myself. Funny how you are not crying about "You having to deal with the reports under your name".

• Lying and Falsely implicating that I used botting programs that caused a Customer's account to be banned for such actions.

I've just received confirmation that the Customer here in question has received a SUCCESSFUL APPEAL, after I advised him to appeal the Ban due to me guaranteeing that I've not botted during ANY of the Services.
Not just that, but the Customer also implied that YOU @Baod were INFORMED about him getting unbanned and that the Customer made it CLEAR to YOU that he's got not a single doubt in my services and that he denies that I as a Worker used botting tools on the account.

Proof - http://prntscr.com/s8a8zi

To Conclude, 75% of the post you've just written is bull-shit and drama cries.

And just in case you forgot, hence why you're here lying on how I without permission used your name in my TWC appeal - It was YOU yes who mentioned that it would be nice to have my TWC removed, and are you that dumb? The only reason I mentioned you in my TWC was to refer to what I was doing at the time of the appeal & before. I couldn't show any vouches I earned on my belt on Sythe, because as per your TOS, I am not allowed to work outside your discord, so yes that's why I mentioned your Service, because I was a WORKER and Ticket Support for your Services.

 

Alright, thank you for your responses.

I've discussed the report with my fellow colleagues and came to the following conclusion:

@Black Mamba OSRS broke @Baod's ToS by talking to potential customers outside of ticket system.
Note: breaking other rules wasn't confirmed in this thread.

However, @Baod has agreed to issue a full refund.

Il happily pay him in 14 days if no more comes of it. As there is no real harm or evidence on customers accounts,
Il forget the fact you broke my Terms Of Service.

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User @Black Mamba OSRS has been DNT'd for the following reasons:

1. user is still yet to confirm his home IP address
2. provided us with ID that was very likely photoshoped
3. multiple customers were complaining about missing items and bans on accounts that Black Mamba OSRS was working on
4. provided staff with multiple questionable stories (private - won't be publicly posted)

We think that @Black Mamba OSRS is a threat to the market users and will need to Request a Pardon.

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Thank you

UPDATE:

@Black Mamba OSRS admitted to scamming Twisted bow and Scythe of vitur.

Scam occurred on April 7, 2020
Twisted bow (approximated price): 1,099m
Scythe of vitur (approximated price): 735m
Total = 1,834m

@Boad will refund @Black Mamba OSRS's deposit of 400m to @crystalknoct, Discord name: Sensei#0699, UID: 320666038721183745

@Black Mamba OSRS claims that 400m was his cut from this scam and that he was forced to scam @crystalknoct, but he failed to provide any conclusive evidence, therefore he will need to refund the full amount in order to be able to request a pardon.

Group chat I was added to:
https://i.imgur.com/x3s18JX.mp4

Screen shots from @Black Mamba OSRS:
https://i.imgur.com/pQZA7sI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wtrwKy5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PnPpjb1.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/690579651021504582/705689625267535952/unknown.png
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https://i.imgur.com/OWhZ3px.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tNk0Nxn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zkSYoUg.jpg

@BlackMamba has been banned for 3 months, as a punishment for scamming.

@Baod was allowed to react and he explained that $50 payment from @Black Mamba OSRS to one of his workers:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/619941435348615188/706109883027554404/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/619941435348615188/706109955400400976/unknown.png
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