account recovered

Scammer's profile link: @kakkaneekeri
Explanation of the trade: Sold me a zulrah account for osrs gold
Amount scammed: 26m + some account training
How they scammed: recovered the account.
Proof that it's their Discord: He has deleted his discord but i still have the pm Screenshot - 1f80926fdb66cecaecedf04e7b1312e4 - Gyazo
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: /
Other relevant trade screenshots: Screenshot - eadca4f2d9c7cb6d42a0cc3b87d2322c - Gyazo
He putup a new discord named kakkaneekeri and is most likely
selling my bought account here : Selling zulrah ready acc

 

@kakkaneekeri care to explain?

You've been given a DNT in the meantime.

 

Turns out he just changed his discord name multiple times, now under ''Seffe''
http://prntscr.com/qms06y - http://prntscr.com/qms0c7
New email on acc : http://prntscr.com/qms0ql
http://prntscr.com/qmrzmu
http://prntscr.com/qms03s

also has changed google account that was given with the runescape account.

 

[kakkaneekeri]

Its a different account
acc that was sold a year ago: https://i.imgur.com/TjoXHzp.png
Acc that is being sold currently: https://i.imgur.com/4d17wFh.png
Old account is unrecoverable not my fault buyer botted and got banned.
If you look at stats its pretty clear to see that its not the same acc.
Also my discord isnt deleted

 

@kakkaneekeri kindly return the account to the user or refund him what he paid for it.

 

[kakkaneekeri]

I dont have access to the account? I gave him the account and the email. What am I supposed to give if a dude comes a year later after buying my acc saying I'm a scammer when I have no way of accessing the acc. Dude messaged me this a year ago and now blames me for being the scammer.
https://i.imgur.com/aRgF3ET.png
Obviously if he sold the account the email is changed I have nothing to do with this

 

[kakkaneekeri]

@Andy also the dude got the original email, the login email of the account in addition to every bit of information I have. I also have since moved there is no way for me to ever recover the acc

 

@kakkaneekeri was there any terms of service agreed upon when you sold him the account originally?

 

[kakkaneekeri]

No TOS were agreed upon. I went first back then since he had a few vouches and IIRC the donor tag even back then.

 

last year? mate chill down, because i just didnt know about your sythe profile with you going under new discord names clown, its been 1month max. and if i had known earlier i would have posted http://prntscr.com/qms582

 

Unfortunately if there was no discussion or agreement on a warranty period and/or an end to your liability with regards to the account you are still held responsible in situations like this where you claim you are unable to recover it.

This is why we encourage users to have strong and defined terms of service, especially when selling an account.

@kakkaneekeri you will need to refund @juealwn123 the money he paid for the account unless you are able to recover it and return it to him. Please let me know when this has been done.

 

[kakkaneekeri]

XD I am responsible for an acc he has sold forward? W/E ban me then if you are that dense

 

[kakkaneekeri]

It is really clear to see though that I am not responsible considering he said he will sell the account forward. He has the account email and Ï dont and its the original one. Theres nothing I can do about it

 

@kakkaneekeri unfortunately in cases like this one, where there is no terms of service, you don't get to decide when you're not liable. This should have been agreed on before the sale occurred.

I will give you one last chance to make things right.

 

[kakkaneekeri]

It seems like you are either not reading the thread or have serious reading comprehension issues.
This is the GMAIL that was the original one and its also the login one. https://i.imgur.com/E0JNNOI.png I have no access to it as you can see and it says that the password was changed 8 months ago so I got notrhing to work with in the recovery. I have no original IP as I moved no access to the email no info about the account. I understand your terms of service but its impossible for me to try to recover the account when I dont even have access to the email.

 

[kakkaneekeri]

Like even if I try to recover the account I cant see if the recover goes through because I cant access email

 

[kakkaneekeri]

https://i.imgur.com/YUNlEUP.png
But eitehr way gl to the buyer maybe he will get the account back maybe he wont

 

@kakkaneekeri as stated above, if you cannot recover it you must refund @juealwn123 the 26m that he paid for the account. You are still liable for the account due to the fact that there was no agreed upon terms of service.

I do appreciate you sending in a recovery request though. However @juealwn123 does not have access to the email either.

 

[kakkaneekeri]

I msut refund? https://i.imgur.com/7h3ZgY8.png Have you read your own TOS? It doesnt talk about refunds only thing said about no TOS in a trade is that I "maintain recovery responsibility forever". And responsibility by definition means: "being accountable for something within ones power, control or management" which I have been.
Also you dont just randomly "lose" google accs they are very secure.
https://i.imgur.com/BBc0pq8.png
https://i.imgur.com/Chz7O4G.png
https://i.imgur.com/VbSJarK.png
My money is still on that he sold the account and something happened which he was not satisfied with.
Again you can see his plan was to sell the acc as seen here https://i.imgur.com/aRgF3ET.png

 

I msut refund? https://i.imgur.com/7h3ZgY8.png Have you read your own TOS? It doesnt talk about refunds only thing said about no TOS in a trade is that I "maintain recovery responsibility forever". And responsibility by definition means: "being accountable for something within ones power, control or management" which I have been.
Also you dont just randomly "lose" google accs they are very secure.
https://i.imgur.com/BBc0pq8.png
https://i.imgur.com/Chz7O4G.png
https://i.imgur.com/VbSJarK.png
My money is still on that he sold the account and something happened which he was not satisfied with.
Again you can see his plan was to sell the acc as seen here https://i.imgur.com/aRgF3ET.png

Hi, you blocked me on discord and sent in a request.
also google had your phone number attached all the time, it was never removed...
its literally your email