[resolved]

[1ST WAGE]

Scammer's profile link:
Frostwins

Discord ID + Unique Discord ID:
Frost#0978 (owner) NeverMad#2334 (manager)

Proof that it's their Discord:
Imgur
Imgur

Scam:
I was a rank in CC, hosting dicing ingame/sports on discord. Owner pinning that I scammed a dicer in clan and kicked me from CC - saying that I had not paid-out and need to pay out again. I refused and got kicked. While this happened I had sports bets payouts pending with his manager(NeverMad) which is not being paid out for over a week as well as pending sports bets with other ranks. All my sports bets got voided mutually which I agreed with other hosts in CC. But frost/nevermad has been ignoring me saying im not gonna get paid out due do the fact I scammed.

Not even 24 hours has passed and that person I was accused of scamming is now a rank in CC. And the money which was owed to me is supposedly going to be paid to him - which frost said he already repaid from my 'scam'.

But his manager is broke and so is a few hosts in the CC, which owe me money and not much I can do about it as frost has banned me and is accusing me of scamming.


which makes no sense as I had more more money owed to me then which im being accused of scamming for.

Not sure really who or what to do - but just warning others - STAY AWAY FROM CLAN

few decent people (hosts in cc) - but owner/manager are fishy

SUMMARY OF SCAM:
1 - accused of scamming 40m for loss of rank
2 - unpaid sports bets payouts
3 - person which I scammed is rank in under 6 hours
4 - owner supposedly now double paying out the scam

Proof of offsite scam/blackhat:

(All i have as evidence is discord messages as i didnt think i was getting scammed until it actually happened)

Imgur
(last few messages from nevermad(General/Manager in clan))

(aftermath with frost)

Imgur
Imgur
Imgur
Imgur

 

[Frost]

Hi,

I will respond to you the same way I responded to you on Discord and thanks for wasting my time again. You scammed a bettor for 40M, the bettor got refunded the 40M, a host owed you 37.5M and I told the host not to pay you, so he can payout the bettor the other 40M from the bet you scammed him.

So the 40M bet you scammed was refunded by myself, and the other 40M owing to the actual bettor went to the bettor, he can come on here and confirm this himself if he wants to.


Please look at the spoiler below for proof and screenshots.

(I deleted the screenshots as it contains RSN's mod please take a look)



Also one of your claims was you already paid him and he is trying to scam you, how come he had no issues with any other hosts? our host Goose cleaned him for 300M and he never claimed he got scammed then... coincidence huh? everyone must just be out to get you.

Last thing I will leave here is if you got screenshots of you paying the bettor 80M, or a screenshot of you confirming in the clan chat you paid 80M, where you can actually prove I am wrong, I will give you 100M.

Thanks for reading everyone, enjoy the show.

 

[1ST WAGE]

hey he responds - glad its public now.

1. why would i have screenies - the 'better' came back after 20/30mins making accusations. If it was earlier I could of grabbed screenies hich you already know i havent got.

2: How does he become your rank in under 24 hours.

3: where is your manager NeverMad in all this, he seems quiet?

4: How does this even justify me even worth scamming? to lose rank/payout money ?

5: All your star+ ranks are broke, and I let them delay payments to me, i kept it and gave you til today to payout/respond but decided not to respond.

So let the admin/ppl on site see the show n judge for themselves.

 

[Frost]

1. why would i have screenies - the 'better' came back after 20/30mins making accusations. If it was earlier I could of grabbed screenies hich you already know i haven't got.

If a mod looks at the screenshots I shared they can determine for themselves, if it's still not sufficient I have more proof that would probably help.

Spoiler

Also this user has wagered over 5B+ in our clan chat without any issues, as you might already know each ticket accumulates when a user bets over 2M, and has not had any issues with any other hosts apart from yourself?.

2: How does he become your rank in under 24 hours.

Ask him, why would I speak on his behalf?

3: where is your manager NeverMad in all this, he seems quiet?

I don't think he uses Sythe?

4: How does this even justify me even worth scamming? to lose rank/payout money ?

That's a question you would have to ask yourself, how am I supposed to answer why you scammed?

5: All your star+ ranks are broke, and I let them delay payments to me, i kept it and gave you til today to payout/respond but decided not to respond.

Care to elaborate? each time you have sent me a DM I have responded, except for the last one because you got salty and decided to spam the clan chat for 5 minutes (I kind of found it funny tbh).

 

[1ST WAGE]

I spammed for you to reply - then i gave you deadline til today to reply - but you didnt hence it has become public.

1 - I want my sports paid out (which you clearly know is owed)

2 - I want my rank refunded (even if your broke-ass cand afford refunds)

3 - Why ask your ranks to stay quiet on the situation (intel tells me that your suspending Nevermad also)?

4 - Just wait for a rank/admin here to reply. Then lets go forward

 

[Frost]

Last time I am going to respond to this because I have better things to do.

1 - I want my sports paid out (which you clearly know is owed)
You're a scammer like I said in the first post (with evidence) and that money went to your scam victim

2 - I want my rank refunded (even if your broke-ass cand afford refunds)
I wiped my ass with your rank buy in money

3 - Why ask your ranks to stay quiet on the situation (intel tells me that your suspending Nevermad also)?
Who did I tell to stay quiet? anyone is free to post as they like if they want to share something?

4 - Just wait for a rank/admin here to reply. Then lets go forward
Probably the smartest thing you said today

 

[1ST WAGE]

@ZeroDragon if I scam report came out instantly I could have scrolled back and took screenies but when it came out, I couldn't.

Secondly the person which I scammed is a rank and the manager(gen) in CC is not paying out bets to anyone -which I have been told he is suspended also. I thought frost would sort it internally but he just tried to keep it under the hammer hence reported a 5 days later.

I had full-faith in the clan also, had no major issues in clan- but shit just turned side-ways.

 

[Frost]

I got some free time now so I can post what happened as an edited version to protect everyone's RSN.


Here is you confirming a 40M bet in the clan chat

Here is you saying you will xfer to payout the bettor after you lost 3oak V 1p in flower poker.

"/gz xfer" is you

Here is the screenshot of you declining to trade the bettor because you said you were xfering, so where is the second trade where you accepted a trade?

He even shared his screen with me where I could see the whole history of the clan chat and hes trade tab, and the last declined trade I showed you in the previous screenshot.

I told you that you were losing your rank over the scam you did, and you were totally cool about it.

Spoiler

You're retarded.

You keep mentioning Nevermad isn't paying out anyone....... Care to explain?, maybe you could show some proof? (or I suppose this is more of your evidence where you can't prove anything?)

Anything you have said so far isn't true and you are a compulsive liar.

 

[1ST WAGE]

As your screen-shot shows - where i declined trade was when i relogged on after and traded again assuming his making more bets (whch we discussed before also).


And obv I dont have evidence as you kicked me from everything and got hosts not to associate with me.

this the only screenie i got in reference to it: Imgur

'Anything you have said so far isn't true and you are a compulsive liar'

Everything I have stated is the truth, I known you so long didnt expect this to happen, as long as ive been part of cc, always vouched/promoted it.

Just comes to it that I didnt prepare for this to happen hence lack of evidence. I dont even wanna be back in CC due to the way you handled the situation, just want my sports bets paid out from your manager.

wanted to sort privately but you ignored - but now whole sythe community can enjoy the show.

 

[Pendulum]

We require a proof of trade to verify if someone has been paid. There is a decline screenshot provided and by your own admission you have no screenshot to prove the trade happened, so the 80M debt is owed. 40M of the debt was provided by your active bets, the remaining 40m was refunded by the server owner. There is still a 40M debt remaining a DNT has been placed until this has been resolved.

@Frostwins is within his rights to remove your rank from the server.

 

[Frost]

@Pendulum


He went offline when I tried to collect my 40M owed lol.

Diablo#5535
UID:231055349942059008

 

[Pendulum]

User has been banned