[RESOLVED]

[Rko808]

So to start off lets verify some info:
Discord IDS;
COIN (New Discord for Him Explain Later):469017188280434689
5wap(Co Owner):279401008713433089
Hadi(Cashier as proof didn't nothing wrong on his end):444199701911306259


Some insight of occurrence:

If you aren't aware the original discord was taken down by discord yesterday 7/17. I had deposited 75m and 100m just perfectly fine. Lost all of the 75m......deposited 100m more built it up to 260m~ huge loss streak came back after work to play chucked a 45m lost and the remaining 115m I chucked then the discord disappeared. with my 115m still in play.

The way their system works.
With Blackjack they deduct from wallet bet amount while game is active. If you win it will double what you bet, if you lose the money is already out. Unlike dice where it is instantly done, due to the hitting/standing.

Summary:
No adequate response either owners...…...A lot of passing the buck back and forth...…
What really bothers me here is the fact that its now been well over 12hrs since I contacted them with no reply you will see from the screenshot at the bottom the text.html document coin sent me with my history but if it shows me cashing in/out wheres my bets why is my wallet empty. Its not like im a regular better ive bet a lot there and the proof is in the history...… shown below.



Picture of my wallet atm/my betting history in discord:

https://gyazo.com/d581a0b4664a36549b04ae5422874b0c
Picture of html doc coin sent:

https://gyazo.com/e747b96e1028b42fd0c77c168b767b5a
Screenshots proving my deposit with cashier Hadi.

https://gyazo.com/6a80eb23dbeb272e2a448cb288827420

https://gyazo.com/861c5082cbe2c06f1c08b2c6b222c900


Me contacting 5wap to resolve...…….

https://gyazo.com/ab29d40263a9babfd64540a856ffb439
https://gyazo.com/e7752f70d3b64ae352a469f08998536b
https://gyazo.com/84b29e434d091828579f0acc7d74c61d
https://gyazo.com/076fb744f38bec44d4bc13aaf1c8ceec
https://gyazo.com/e4b4e95e17eb316a15f679add065e078
https://gyazo.com/20855c5741dfaf67d3ad1c5dcda86dbd
https://gyazo.com/fd1e676e840238d96398ff672298065b


Now Messages with coin...…

https://gyazo.com/6a67560946471ff7106e2316d77b7988

https://gyazo.com/d7fda4fe9e62c1dde8cfdd4107f9df40

https://gyazo.com/9f265fafe1e7d928b9ca0ac0376e3658

https://gyazo.com/35ae3ba3633a015025e22b9616d82ebc

https://gyazo.com/2fae366ec18271e357d6e4b9cee57f9e

https://gyazo.com/9f6b4bd072f9459e0082819f1ceffc9d

https://gyazo.com/64bfa73507706efb48bb33a4e4b981ae

https://gyazo.com/2c6280772732e9a23b93296d4e79e68e

https://gyazo.com/207a3288128c45ada2d38813d97049b6

 

[Derry]

I'd also like to put into this as well. I'm a frequent gambler on the Discord who goes by the name "Zozo" many can vouch there that I bet frequently as well and I've had the same trouble in the past with Coin and 5WAP about bets being fucked up due to Discord's end or their horrendous gambling bot which always seems to go to shit every once in a while.

There's been hands which I've lost out on due to the bot not responding to my "!hit" or "!stand" commands. And if that happens you're shit out of luck and you don't win your hand nor do you lose it, it just never never plays out and the money you've bet never gets replaced back to your wallet, it just vanishes. You speak to the owners about it and you get no where with them. Just excuses, every time.

There's been numerous time I've had to contact Coin about fixing the bot on times where playing Blackjack and getting a 21 after a hit allows the dealer to hit as well getting a 21 which ends up being 21v21 and you still lose the bet. No push, no win, just a straight loss. I've had Coin fix this issue in the past, only for it to miraculously show up again as a problem sometimes with the bot after being told "we've fixed this issue". Again, try talking to the owners about it and you get nowhere, and they don't refund the money. On top of that, the moment you don't reason with them, they stop responding to your messages entirely.

The Discord server has numerous problems, and so does the bot, but the owners never take any blame for it half the time, and communication is so poor. Its either their way or no way.

Anyways, I hope you get this resolved Rko, you're a top gambler in the Discord and I'd hate to see you get played out like this.

 

[Rko808]

I would like a sythe admin to gain access to elites bot (not shin or anyone affiliated to elite)
I want them to first of all check the verifier is water tight so the logs and games can't be tampered with
if it is water tight then check my logs as it won't be tampered with. there has been a number of reports about elites bot, Now they are telling me i have not bet.
Someone needs to have a serious look into what is going on here, If you running a legit service ALL logs should be there.

 

[Rko808]

I would like a sythe admin to gain access to elites bot (not shin or anyone affiliated to elite)
I want them to first of all check the verifier is water tight so the logs and games can't be tampered with
if it is water tight then check my logs as it won't be tampered with. there has been a number of reports about elites bot, Now they are telling me i have not bet.
Someone needs to have a serious look into what is going on here, If you running a legit service ALL logs should be there.

@Champ

 

[Champ]

@Owner Can you verify / explain what is going on here?

 

[Rko808]

@Champ what bothers me is him telling me he get back to me in 90mins and never came back yet I saw him come back online but never replied.....

https://gyazo.com/3522df47ca0ddd9b5272b3292f02cae0

 

@Owner Can you verify / explain what is going on here?

@Champ He is caught lying to me multiple times I provided him all logs that we could of kept even though our main server got deleted by Discord which totally not our fault.

So he is claiming that he placed a blackjack bet exact same second worth 115M when discord got shut down. First of chance for discord server to get shut down is 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.0000001% and him to have a 115m blackjack hand.

Our admin has looked into this really hard and provided logs which are saved from deleted server. Down below I will mention all proofs that the user didn't bet anywhere even close to when discord server got shut down (which might get unbanned soon)

1. - He has been given logs even though we didn't except server to get deleted by discord (logs of his messages , last text etc I am not sure if I can post that file in here or just send it over discord to you @Champ .
2. - He has been caught lying multiple times switching numbers obviously just to try and get any free money
http://prntscr.com/k80jet http://prntscr.com/k80jj6
3. - Him answering my question when did he even bet http://prntscr.com/k8dcb7 - which is him saiyng 5:25PM EST and THE SERVER was deleted by discord at 6AM GMT which is about 6-7 hours difference. (As I said I can't post here .html logs I will send these to you on discord @Champ .
4. - Our active admin Remy was online during his time 5:25PM which always gets dms if people need help but obviously he never bothered to dm anyone because server was active until **6AM GMT*
5. - Him confirming the time of the cashin http://prntscr.com/k8ddnc which is again 6-7 hours away from server shut down.
6. - Most important point our admin proving that the server was shut down at 6AM GMT http://prntscr.com/k8deac and last time this guy was seen is 5-6 hours before 6AM which is also proved by chat logs his last message / activity (We don't share with bettors that we track these logs of everything only because they would try to abuse it but when people like this guy try to lie and get free money we bring that out to prove them wrong)

@Champ I don't know how to send .html file it's about few pages of logs from this guy I will send that via discord to you.

 

@Champ I sent all logs over to you on discord.

 

[Rko808]

Still no reply..

 

[GDPRWatchdog]

I was reading this thread and i found something that shocked me.
Screenshot - 1ef27c3e148ad611df497164491ad57a - Gyazo

and now let me quote @Owner "Now what i saw was (We don't share with bettors that we track these logs of everything only because they would try to abuse it but when people like this guy try to lie and get free money we bring that out to prove them wrong)"


Last 25th of May all organisations need to be compliant with the new GDPR.
Who does the GDPR affect?
The GDPR not only applies to organisations located within the EU but it will also apply to organisations located outside of the EU if they offer goods or services to, or monitor the behaviour of, EU data subjects.
It applies to all companies processing and holding the personal data of data subjects residing in the European Union, regardless of the company’s location.

What constitutes personal data?
The GDPR applies to ‘personal data’ meaning any information relating to an identifiable person who can be directly or indirectly identified in particular by reference to an identifier.
This definition provides for a wide range of personal identifiers to constitute personal data, including name, identification number, location data or online identifier, reflecting changes in technology and the way organisations collect information about people.

Now, considering @Owner has an site called Elite Ranks - #1 Runescape Gambling Site -> Register:: Screenshot - 3720aa6b1d5a3b50f7d8d1183ee30e1d - Gyazo where you register with an e-mail address.
On their discord they Apparently log The date and timestamp, the channel name, the server, your display name and even your complete message. Screenshot

This means that @Owner is in direct violation of the GDPR as he does not give any insight in the data he collects, the users dont have "The right to be forgotten".

Sources: https://www.eugdpr.org/
The GDPR Checklist - Your GDPR compliance checklist
Elite Ranks Discord Scamming.
Elite Ranks - #1 Runescape Gambling Site

 

[GDPRWatchdog]

2. - He has been caught lying multiple times switching numbers obviously just to try and get any free money
http://prntscr.com/k80jet http://prntscr.com/k80jj6

@Owner You do realize that these amounts are all claimed in his first post? (Seen below)

So to start off lets verify some info:
Discord IDS;
COIN (New Discord for Him Explain Later):469017188280434689
5wap(Co Owner):279401008713433089
Hadi(Cashier as proof didn't nothing wrong on his end):444199701911306259


Some insight of occurrence:

If you aren't aware the original discord was taken down by discord yesterday 7/17. I had deposited 75m and 100m just perfectly fine. Lost all of the 75m......deposited 100m more built it up to 260m~ huge loss streak came back after work to play chucked a 45m lost and the remaining 115m I chucked then the discord disappeared. with my 115m still in play.

4. - Our active admin Remy was online during his time 5:25PM which always gets dms if people need help but obviously he never bothered to dm anyone because server was active until **6AM GMT*

This does not mean he immediately thought of messaging an admin. If a server gets deleted people can not think clearly, there is also a possibility he went to bed expecting it to be sorted in the morning.

5. - Him confirming the time of the cashin http://prntscr.com/k8ddnc which is again 6-7 hours away from server shut down.

Spoiler: And this proves exactly when he bet?

No, it does not, see my point on your "point" six.

6. - Most important point our admin proving that the server was shut down at 6AM GMT http://prntscr.com/k8deac and last time this guy was seen is 5-6 hours before 6AM which is also proved by chat logs his last message / activity (We don't share with bettors that we track these logs of everything only because they would try to abuse it but when people like this guy try to lie and get free money we bring that out to prove them wrong)

Besides what I said about this earlier, your logs don't need to be complete. How are you sure those logs are made real-time, especially in the event of a server deletion? We can only speculate on how Discord's infrastructure and API handles these things.

 

[Rko808]

@Owner @Champ

A) My Amounts bet never has changed...…………...I gave him all numbers to give him a precipice. Basically The hand before I chucked was a 45m. SO that was giving him something to look for.

B) The logs he sent to me which I screenshotted... and shared here has only shown my deposit.....!00m and 75m but none of my bets are there yet my wallet is 0.

C) @Owner you are changing things up now the time you told me it got deleted was 404am now u changed the story to 6am...………………. Clearly shown in the pms.

I'm not one of those guys that are looking for free money its all about principle and fairness my history with your discord and for knowledge of others I bet 20b 07 while isn't a lot to some is enough to know I have a history of betting and yes you gotta remember im eastern time zone...…...I was awake on discord talking to a mate and gambling on your discord which now for the way your trying to switch shit up on me. I regret here...…. I don't understand why u haven't given @Champ access to your bot and are sending it over screenshots.

 

[Rko808]

Guys I appreciate your support but id really like this to be solved by admins/coin/myself. No need to post outlandish stuff here if you feel cheated make your own thread

 

[Champ]

If anyone else post on this report other than the OP, you will be infracted.

@Rko808 Do you have proof? I have the logs, and your story does not match up. The 115m bet, is not there.

 

[Rko808]

@Champ
Can i please see these logs where did my wallet go

 

[Rko808]

Still waiting on an update as per our convo on discord @Champ

 

[Champ]

Still waiting on an update as per our convo on discord @Champ

This situation is under review and is being discussed.

 

[Rko808]

I was paid 115m by coin @Champ

 

[Champ]

This situation has been resolved.