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I'm not talking about the Talon loan.. I was referring to the loan you took from TTb

I've been in constant contact with TTB and whittling down that debt every single opportunity I have gotten. Sometimes I have put myself first in that situation, which I have even told him and he understood. If I hadn't I wouldn't have been able to whittle down the debt period. Just because I'm not posting on Sythe does not mean I am not talking to him. He has me on Facebook and I try to talk to him as often as I can.

My recent "paragraphs of bullshit" as you call them are in response to my other debt with Talon, now Derik (thank god). Talon needlessly made that process cumbersome and seemed to get a sick sort of pleasure out of messing with me.


I never said I shouldn't "catch words" for being a retard. I am saying we've done that song and dance already. It's boring. Virtually if not every single user here has done something they are not proud of or fucked up and gotten banned for it. Yourself included.
 
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I've been in constant contact with TTB and whittling down that debt every single opportunity I have gotten. Sometimes I have put myself first in that situation, which I have even told him and he understood. If I hadn't I wouldn't have been able to whittle down the debt period. Just because I'm not posting on Sythe does not mean I am not talking to him. He has me on Facebook and I try to talk to him as often as I can.

My recent "paragraphs of bullshit" as you call them are in response to my other debt with Talon, now Derik (thank god). Talon needlessly made that process cumbersome and seemed to get a sick sort of pleasure out of messing with me.


I never said I shouldn't "catch words" for being a retard. I am saying we've done that song and dance already. It's boring. Virtually if not every single user here has done something they are not proud of or fucked up and gotten banned for it. Yourself included.
You've owed TTb for multiple years. You then took 2+ more loans from other "friends". You have a knack for owing friends money. Not a trait I like to keep company with. If I didnt know any better I'd say you take advantage of certain situations and "friends" compassion.
 
You've owed TTb for multiple years. You then took 2+ more loans from other "friends". You have a knack for owing friends money. Not a trait I like to keep company with. If I didnt know any better I'd say you take advantage of certain situations and "friends" compassion.

Yep. I do. And those are my mistakes to fix, 1 of 2 said loans having long been paid off. Now that the same guy carries that debt instead, it will be a lot smoother paying off that debt than the previous user that did.

The TTB loan was large. Larger than I ever should have taken on.

As far as your company comment, that's fine. Can't recall us ever being in company with each other anyway. I've always found your sanctimonious lectures to have biting irony considering you are far from some beacon of morality yourself. Like I said weren't you banned for most of my hiatus?

Like I said I know my actions have cost me friendships. That is my burden to bear.
 
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Yep. I do. And those are my mistakes to fix, 1 of 2 said loans having long been paid off. Now that the same guy carries that debt instead, it will be a lot smoother paying off that debt than the previous user that did.

The TTB loan was large. Larger than I ever should have taken on.

As far as your company comment, that's fine. Can't recall us ever being in company with each other anyway. I've always found your sanctimonious lectures to have biting irony considering you are far from some beacon of morality yourself. Like I said weren't you banned for most of my hiatus?

Like I said I know my actions have cost me friendships. That is my burden to bear.
The keeping company comment wasnt in referrence to us ever being friends or associates for that matter. Never really cared or disliked you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt many years ago. You've done nothing to keep that same benefit. I now believe you used your position, reputation and friendship to manipulate TTb into giving you an extremely large loan. A loan you never needed. If I'm not mistaken you had billions of rs3 at the time.. It's his fault for being so trusting. I'm a little protective over ttb because of our many years of business. I've seen numerous dirt bags borrow money from him and never repay it. You've repaid others before repaying him and that's bullshit. Get your shit together and stop writing stories about paying people back. Actions speak louder than words. It;s been what 4 years?
 
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The keeping company comment wasnt in referrence to us ever being friends or associates for that matter. Never really cared or disliked you. I gave you the benefit of the doubt many years ago. You've done nothing to keep that same benefit. I now believe you used your position, reputation and friendship to manipulate TTb into giving you an extremely large loan. A loan you never needed. If I'm not mistaken you had billions of rs3 at the time.. It's his fault for being so trusting. I'm a little protective over ttb because of our many years of business. I've seen numerous dirt bags borrow money from him and never repay it. You've repaid others before repaying him and that's bullshit. Get your shit together and stop writing stories about paying people back. Actions speak louder than words. It;s been what 4 years?

That's a fair position to take. I realize I have lost that benefit of the doubt. I'm not asking for your benefit of the doubt. But there's plenty you don't know as well..as in I have been working toward reducing the debt (unlike Karl). The loan matured over 2 years ago yes. It has been reduced since then. The reason others got paid before him was so that I could completely wipe those debts off of the ledger. It wasn't done to be malicious to TTB. That RS3 I had lost more than half its value. I never profited off of the TTB loan and it was done to help Chase. A mistake, yes. We've been over this 1000 times.

I'll talk to @Dank about how to go about repayment and if he wants it all to go to TTB first. Given that Derik often needs services done to reduce debt (which is how I paid off my $140 debt to him previously), I will likely do that to mitigate some if not all my debt towards him.

The one area where you are wrong is that I am legitimately and genuinely friends with both of them (TTB and Derik). The friends I consider "lost" are the ones from the discord chat and Talon especially.

But again..if I had no intent of ever paying it back why would I even be sitting here debating about it with you.

Yes I am a fucking moron for letting it get this far. And I should not have taken advantage of TTB, Talon, or Deriks generosity. For the millionth time, I understand that and get it. But all I can do is fix it.
 
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That's a fair position to take. I realize I have lost that benefit of the doubt. I'm not asking for your benefit of the doubt. But there's plenty you don't know as well..as in I have been working toward reducing the debt (unlike Karl). The loan matured over 2 years ago yes. It has been reduced since then. The reason others got paid before him was so that I could completely wipe those debts off of the ledger. It wasn't done to be malicious to TTB. That RS3 I had lost more than half its value. I never profited off of the TTB loan and it was done to help Chase. A mistake, yes. We've been over this 1000 times.

I'll talk to @Dank about how to go about repayment and if he wants it all to go to TTB first. Given that Derik often needs services done to reduce debt (which is how I paid off my $140 debt to him previously), I will likely do that to mitigate some if not all my debt towards him.

The one area where you are wrong is that I am legitimately and genuinely friends with both of them (TTB and Derik). The friends I consider "lost" are the ones from the discord chat and Talon especially.

But again..if I had no intent of ever paying it back why would I even be sitting here debating about it with you.

Yes I am a fucking moron for letting it get this far. And I should not have taken advantage of TTB, Talon, or Deriks generosity. For the millionth time, I understand that and get it. But all I can do is fix it.
The skype/discord chat was never your friends. Theyre a bunch of degenerates who have nothing better to do than create weak memes, script league and sell weed online to support themselves. Discord chat died when lame died. He was the glue that held the entire thing together.
 
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The skype/discord chat was never your friends. Theyre a bunch of degenerates who have nothing better to do than create weak memes. Mine as well join grave chat. At least their shit is fresh and original.

I respect you for calling me out and you're right. Actions > Words. I've tried to be that by NOT posting. I do not believe I deserve the privilege of posting regularly until my debts are at a 0 balance. And I have stuck to that pledge. Yes, it has taken a long time, through much of my own doing/fault. But not posting does not equate to me forgetting my responsibilities or not being in contact at all with TTB or Derik. On the flip side, my Sythe debts are far from my only responsibilities, obviously. And sometimes people don't seem to realize that.

Again, the fact Derik absorbed my $600 debt from Talon should tell everyone something. That I've proven to him already that I can make good on it. And have before. And will again. As far as I can see, Talon purposely made repayment difficult for his own entertainment. I can't erase the fact it happened or that I was a selfish prick taking it. I can only erase the debt now.

I'll be sure to bring up that concern to Derik, about paying TTB back before him, since his loan is larger and much older. I'll try my best to find a balance where both debts are being addressed simultaneously.

So that's all I'll say about it. My posts from here on out will be my repayment threads where I can show the community it is just words but actions too. And it has been actions since I made my original leaving thread back in January. Debts have been solved since then, debts have been reduced since then, and I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing since then.

Edit: TTB just confirmed to me he is cool with repayment payments moving forward being split between him and Derik, so I'll see what Derik says.
 
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What happened to this guy froopy pretty sure he was a ban evader. Last thing I know was Wortel was trying to link him with Kriegsminister but he is not DNTd.
That's @Wonderland's other account.

A TL;DR version as to why he's banned on his main account if you're going to follow up asking that:

-He scammed around 2.5B+ 07, and ignored everyone who tried to reach out to him about it. By the looks of it he actively used the other account he had (@froopy) after the scam occurred (while ignoring everyone's messages from prior), and tried to sell some gold off of it before being caught.
 
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That's @Wonderland's other account.

TL;DR as to why he's banned on his main account if you're going to follow up asking that - Scammed $1500-1700+ worth of 07 Gold, and ignored everyone who tried to reach out to him about it. By the looks of it he actively used the other account he had (@froopy) after the scam occurred (while ignoring everyone's messages from prior), and tried to sell some gold off of it before being caught.
Wait what ? Wasnt @Wonderland an ex mod and a cool trusted guy ? I didnt know him but I read a lot of his stuff in the Spam forum specially this Many reasons not to deal/trade with Divine/Bus369. He seemed like a guy I would like to be friends with :(
 
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Wait what ? Wasnt @Wonderland an ex mod and a cool trusted guy ? I didnt know him but I read a lot of his stuff in the Spam forum specially this Many reasons not to deal/trade with Divine/Bus369. He seemed like a guy I would like to be friends with :(
I didn't know him well enough, but yeah he was an ex-mod afaik. He did seem like a solid dude that made a lot of contributions to the community throughout the years, but not sure what triggered him enough to go out like this.
 
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I didn't know him well enough, but yeah he was an ex-mod afaik. He did seem like a solid dude that made a lot of contributions to the community throughout the years, but not sure what triggered him enough to go out like this.
Thats kinda sad , Well thanks for taking time to answer me :)
 
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That's @Wonderland's other account.

A TL;DR version as to why he's banned on his main account if you're going to follow up asking that:

-He scammed around 2.5B+ 07, and ignored everyone who tried to reach out to him about it. By the looks of it he actively used the other account he had (@froopy) after the scam occurred (while ignoring everyone's messages from prior), and tried to sell some gold off of it before being caught.

No wayyyyy.
Dude I thought it was strange he was all of a sudden selling stuff in the OSRS Market place.
Seen him around for years, never saw him in the market place until recently.
So nuts
Is there a link to the RAS for Wonderland’s scam?
 
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No wayyyyy.
Dude I thought it was strange he was all of a sudden selling stuff in the OSRS Market place.
Seen him around for years, never saw him in the market place until recently.
So nuts
Is there a link to the RAS for Wonderland’s scam?
Yeah I mean I wouldn't overthink that, but I see where you're coming from. Myself and many other staff/ex-staff are inactive traders that used to trade a bit here and there/a lot more in the past. Mainly due to being busy just like anyone else with IRL obligations and devoting the free time we have to moderating the site/helping within the community (just my opinion though). I didn't think someone like him would ever pull that off, especially considering what he's contributed to the community throughout the years, but then again I didn't know him too well. There's no public thread about it though (in SL).
 
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Yeah I mean I wouldn't overthink that, but I see where you're coming from. Myself and many other staff/ex-staff are inactive traders that used to trade a bit here and there/a lot more in the past. Mainly due to being busy just like anyone else with IRL obligations and devoting the free time we have to moderating the site/helping within the community (just my opinion though). I didn't think someone like him would ever pull that off, especially considering what he's contributed to the community throughout the years, but then again I didn't know him too well. There's no public thread about it though (in SL).
Good point.
Yeah man, absolutely crazy.
Must be going through a rough patch in life right now. Hopefully he gets through it and repays his debts
 
Wait what ? Wasnt @Wonderland an ex mod and a cool trusted guy ? I didnt know him but I read a lot of his stuff in the Spam forum specially this Many reasons not to deal/trade with Divine/Bus369. He seemed like a guy I would like to be friends with :(


Yeah I mean I wouldn't overthink that, but I see where you're coming from. Myself and many other staff/ex-staff are inactive traders that used to trade a bit here and there/a lot more in the past. Mainly due to being busy just like anyone else with IRL obligations and devoting the free time we have to moderating the site/helping within the community (just my opinion though). I didn't think someone like him would ever pull that off, especially considering what he's contributed to the community throughout the years, but then again I didn't know him too well. There's no public thread about it though (in SL).

He was never a cool guy and he was never known in the market. This happens a lot on sythe. They rank these randoms who have 0 market trust to mods. The sheep see it and assume he's trusted and has something to lose. The fact is he didnt. His trust was artifical from being a mod on here. I'm sorry people lost money but let this be a lesson learned. Dont go first to untrusted people. I bet thats the most gold that fucking loser has ever held. What an embarrassment. I hope that faggot falls off a cliff texting his boyfriend. However I am glad he's fucking gone. Now we wont have to deal with him making a new name every 3 months. Cya hick
 
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I can confirm I took over the $600 debt to Talon and paid it myself. Now @I Bleed Duke Blue owes me the $600 and all previous debt owed to me has been paid off. I don't expect this $600 to be paid instantly but at the same time I would like it as soon as possible. I took over his debt close to 4 months ago because he said he was going to buy a vehicle and then never did. I wouldn't have honestly covered the debt if he didn't need it.
 
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