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Original TWC date: 17th of may 2018
Original TWC reason: Poor trading practices
TWC issued by: @Pendulum
Scam report link: {Resolved}
Despite not having done the required time, I'm here to appeal the TWC that I've been slapped with two weeks ago. Since I have been holding the rank, I've felt a lot of strong attitudes towards the rank, and I feel like the rank is harming me by drawing an incorrect representation of me as a trader. I've already been feeling a big effect on my trading. People use the TWC as a reason to avoid trades. Rather than wanting to investigate the reason of the TWC, it has been a matter of discussion in several trades, and sometimes even leads as an excuse for sketchy parties to back out of a trade or a middlemanning service.
As I wasn't given a chance to provide any input, and as I didn't see the PM posted in the scam report, I think it was a little quick for @Pendulum to slap the TWC.
As posted in response on the same day in this thread: TWC, I hereby would like to add my verification PM to someone who contacted me to sell me the RuneScape name 'Sun', and requested me to PM him to know he was talking to me.
Bare in mind that at that point I wasn't aware that there was a certain template to follow, so I just provided my Discord ID and the Discord ID of the person I was talking to, neither of the ID's matched the ones of the scam victim nor the imposting middleman. At the time that I got contacted about the name, I was ready to go to bed, and was using Discord on my cellphone. If anyone has experience with Discord on a mobile phone, you might be able to confirm that it's a pain to copy Discord text to take a snippet of the conversation.
Hereby I provide you with the confirmation PM that got me the TWC:
https://i.imgur.com/JS5vd7d.png
I don't disagree that the PM didn't meet Sythe standards, I have since learnt about the importance of them and have been applying them in every single PM I've been sending, as shown in the many examples below. However, even not having followed these standards, I had provided (at least in my opinion) a sufficient amount of details for Viv to avoid getting scammed, if he had taken the time to confirm the little information that I provided him with in the PM.
I can be mistaken, but I feel like that in this particular case I could have provided him with the full template, which is why I honestly feel like poor trading practices is bit of a stretch, and a two week period of the TWC of shame has been sufficient enough of a punishment.
Please find below some examples of my PM's since the TWC, that have been following the requested standard, aswell as the vouches that I have gathered during my two week period of TWC:
Example PM 1 - May 18, 2018: https://i.imgur.com/iSrEVy5.png
Example PM 2 - May 20, 2018: https://i.imgur.com/gj2dHFv.png
Example PM 3 - May 26, 2018: https://i.imgur.com/D6n9rN7.png
Below you can find the 19 vouches that I have obtained since my TWC - May 17, 2018 until the time of posting: June 1, 2018.
✔ #38
✔ #39
✔ #40
✔ #41
✔ #42
✔ #43
✔ #44
✔ #45
✔ #46
✔ #47
✔ #48
✔ #49
✔ #50
✔ #51
✔ #52
✔ #53
✔ #54
✔ #55
I would like to show that I have understood the reason behind the TWC, and that it has had the effect that you were hoping to see. I have learnt to follow the proper template when sending PM's, and have continued to trade in a professional manner.
I hope that staff can agree that a two week punishment could be considered as a more than reasonable amount of time, and that you can agree that the TWC is no longer in proportion to what has actually happened nor would be considered necessary.
Thanks for your consideration.
Original TWC reason: Poor trading practices
TWC issued by: @Pendulum
Scam report link: {Resolved}
Despite not having done the required time, I'm here to appeal the TWC that I've been slapped with two weeks ago. Since I have been holding the rank, I've felt a lot of strong attitudes towards the rank, and I feel like the rank is harming me by drawing an incorrect representation of me as a trader. I've already been feeling a big effect on my trading. People use the TWC as a reason to avoid trades. Rather than wanting to investigate the reason of the TWC, it has been a matter of discussion in several trades, and sometimes even leads as an excuse for sketchy parties to back out of a trade or a middlemanning service.
As I wasn't given a chance to provide any input, and as I didn't see the PM posted in the scam report, I think it was a little quick for @Pendulum to slap the TWC.
As posted in response on the same day in this thread: TWC, I hereby would like to add my verification PM to someone who contacted me to sell me the RuneScape name 'Sun', and requested me to PM him to know he was talking to me.
Bare in mind that at that point I wasn't aware that there was a certain template to follow, so I just provided my Discord ID and the Discord ID of the person I was talking to, neither of the ID's matched the ones of the scam victim nor the imposting middleman. At the time that I got contacted about the name, I was ready to go to bed, and was using Discord on my cellphone. If anyone has experience with Discord on a mobile phone, you might be able to confirm that it's a pain to copy Discord text to take a snippet of the conversation.
Hereby I provide you with the confirmation PM that got me the TWC:
https://i.imgur.com/JS5vd7d.png
I don't disagree that the PM didn't meet Sythe standards, I have since learnt about the importance of them and have been applying them in every single PM I've been sending, as shown in the many examples below. However, even not having followed these standards, I had provided (at least in my opinion) a sufficient amount of details for Viv to avoid getting scammed, if he had taken the time to confirm the little information that I provided him with in the PM.
I can be mistaken, but I feel like that in this particular case I could have provided him with the full template, which is why I honestly feel like poor trading practices is bit of a stretch, and a two week period of the TWC of shame has been sufficient enough of a punishment.
Please find below some examples of my PM's since the TWC, that have been following the requested standard, aswell as the vouches that I have gathered during my two week period of TWC:
Example PM 1 - May 18, 2018: https://i.imgur.com/iSrEVy5.png
Example PM 2 - May 20, 2018: https://i.imgur.com/gj2dHFv.png
Example PM 3 - May 26, 2018: https://i.imgur.com/D6n9rN7.png
Below you can find the 19 vouches that I have obtained since my TWC - May 17, 2018 until the time of posting: June 1, 2018.
✔ #38
sold him 50m more 07,ty
✔ #39
saved him in a time of desperate need ty for business.
✔ #40
Middleman services were amazing. He walked me through security measures, and made the entire process much more comforting. Would highly recommend!
✔ #41
Very patient and professional middle man. Sold a osrs account for 110m and all went smooth.
✔ #42
Vouch, sold $100 worth of miniranks to Meowth. All went quick and smooth, thanks.
✔ #43
Vouch for Meowth! Easy, quick, efficient and friendly buyer. Bought 155m from me for PayPal, very smooth and painless trade.
✔ #44
sold me 190m 07 for btc. Great guy smooth trade!
✔ #45
Sold him 0.002 btc for paypal I went firstsimple and fair
✔ #46
Vouch for Meowth. Sold him 209m for Paypal. Quick and easy. Thanks.
✔ #47
sold me 210m for PP. thanks bro
✔ #48
Sold 100m 07. Easy and quick trade. Thanks so much.
✔ #49
Just sold another 200m to Meowth. Super efficient trader. Love doing deals with him! Thanks so much! Huge Vouch!
✔ #50
Sold Meowth another 105m! Super easy and fast trade! Big vouch, makes selling a breeze!
✔ #51
sold me 300m using PP, thanks again
✔ #52
Bought 100m from him thanks
✔ #53
Vouch mm'd 100m trade for him
✔ #54
Vouch to @Meowth MM'ed a 120cb account trade, very professional and smooth highly recommended!
✔ #55
Vouch, MM'd a account purchase for me. Knew what he was doing, thanks!
✔ #56
I would like to show that I have understood the reason behind the TWC, and that it has had the effect that you were hoping to see. I have learnt to follow the proper template when sending PM's, and have continued to trade in a professional manner.
I hope that staff can agree that a two week punishment could be considered as a more than reasonable amount of time, and that you can agree that the TWC is no longer in proportion to what has actually happened nor would be considered necessary.
Thanks for your consideration.
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