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  1. Unread #1 - Jan 4, 2023 at 8:26 AM
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    Scammer's profile link: Luck

    Amount scammed: 2B 07GP

    Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: Luckygoldshop#4312 + 640378662214041622

    Proof that it's their Discord:
    https://i.imgur.com/PZG8RZK.gif

    Explanation of the trade:
    So I was selling 4B to Luckygoldshop and he asked me to do this in 2 trades, one trade where I didn't have to take a screenshot and one where I had to take a screenshot of the trade?. The one without the screenshot went smooth, but when all of a sudden it came to the one with the screenshot trade he refused to pay me for the trade. It is super fucking fishy and this guy should not be allowed to do this anymore, I do not understand why I could not give the 4b to the same account in the first trade as it seems like he had control of that account.
    How they scammed:
    Second trade was supposed to be with a "screenshot" of the trade, that is all that was specified he said send ss of trade. So I did I did send a ss of the trade but he refused to accept the ss I sent and started specifying that it is not valid, HE NEVER SPECIFIED WHAT TYPE OF SCREENSHOT HE WANTED. I am not at fault cause this guy couldn't explain what type of screenshot he wanted.


    Other relevant trade screenshots:
    Ive censored RSN to keep us safe with notepads.
    https://i.imgur.com/HqvV7n1.png
    https://i.imgur.com/NmEpySz.png
    https://i.imgur.com/eIYxWbh.png
    https://i.imgur.com/hjjnBdL.png <-- the image i censored
    https://i.imgur.com/r8v7RUM.png
    https://i.imgur.com/4vdUv9n.png
    https://i.imgur.com/GymvcGA.png
    https://i.imgur.com/TlWKgOr.png <-- I gave their boss like a whole day to come on and explain before opening this thread.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Jan 4, 2023 at 10:35 AM
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    Hi @Ryliss
    Regardless of the screenshot @Luck asked you to provide, we do need some sort of proof the gold was delivered. The screenshot you provided does not prove you delivered gp to luck or their customer.
    Do you have any screenshots/recording to back this up?
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jan 4, 2023 at 12:20 PM
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    As much as I need to provide screenshots, I think @Luck needs to provide ANY proof at all that THE GP was denied too!!! Why am I the only one accountable for providing proof of it being declined? Is his words worth more than mine?
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jan 4, 2023 at 12:24 PM
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    https://i.imgur.com/hjjnBdL.png
    As we see in the chat in this image 2 tsending trade offers one accepted trade and one sending trade offer.

    Here in this screenshot we'll see the same except with an extra accepted trade:
    https://i.imgur.com/lN8sIJj.png

    All of this adds up, I gave him 2b in 1 of the trades which is the first 2 sending trade offers and 1 accepted. Then the other image where we're in the 2nd trade screen we see the same thing just no accepted trade, and then we have the 2 accepted trades image. I can not have photoshopped this in what is milliseconds between the transaction.

    It adds up with everything else, its more proof than lucky can provide so its worth more in my eyes. I am not lying, and if it was this easy to get off the hook then everyone should be just going around saying the gp is not delivered.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Jan 4, 2023 at 12:40 PM
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    Unfortunately the proof of burden lays on you in this case. We don't require proof that the gold was not delivered. I also don't see why you would make a full screenshot for the first trade, then decide to make a cropped one for the second trade. Anyone can make a screenshot like that whenever they want; it proves nothing.

    There's nothing we can do in this case.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jan 4, 2023 at 5:32 PM
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    This report was closed because there appeared to be no proof of the trade having occurred, however @Ryliss has pm'ed me screenshots proving he delivered the gold. I've therefore re-opened this and I'll discuss this with staff.

    @Luck @Luckygoldshop wanna chime in with your side?
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Jan 6, 2023 at 4:21 AM
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    Can we get a DNT on @Luck and @Luckygoldshop that is continuing to do deals, selling gp and not giving their side on this scam report?
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Jan 6, 2023 at 4:30 AM
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    They have pm'ed me their side/chat logs via PM as it contains some sensitive info.
    I'm currently discussing this with other staff.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Jan 6, 2023 at 7:44 AM
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    I'd like some transparency, I do not believe Luck has anything to their side other than their customers chat logs and as I believe and know that I gave that GP. I want to see what these logs are making you guys have to discuss this situation, there is no way he got a bombshell of proof to be worthy considerations as he has the same logs as me. PM me it if it is sensitive :)
     
  19. Unread #10 - Jan 6, 2023 at 8:24 AM
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    Hi @Ryliss

    In hte chat logs @Luck asked you for a full screenshot. You replied with 'i dont have'.
    Luck then told you to take it now, but you replied with 'man i logged out what is this last minute requirements' and 'go do some photoshop or smth'.
    However, you were later able to provide the screenshot. How come you didn't have it at first but do now?
     
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  21. Unread #11 - Jan 6, 2023 at 8:43 AM
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    This should be no news, the thread contains all the chat logs too. I did not want to expose my whole client for Luck and I thought a cropped picture would be enough since he did not ask for a bigger resolution I thought I was in the right and did not want to send him anything more than what I sent.

    I am still pressing on the matter of what the customers chat logs are, I am very keen on seeing these logs with the customer.
     
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  23. Unread #12 - Jan 6, 2023 at 8:50 AM
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    Alright, thank you for your explanation.
    I don't get why you did send a screenshot of your full client before, but was unable to send it a second time. The evidence you've provided has been discussed and reviewed by multiple staff members and we've all came to the same conclusion: the screenshot you provided has been photoshopped. I kinda feel like posting this evidence here on this thread so everyone can see it, but I'll keep it in a deleted post as it does contain sensitive info such as your in game name.

    You have however received a DNT (Do Not Trade) for faking evidence. Feel free to request a pardon.
     
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