2 week ban and TWC

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2 week ban and TWC
  1. Unread #1 - Oct 24, 2017 at 12:44 PM
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    2 week ban and TWC

    Hello. Last night I was banned for the reason of "fake vouching."

    report: Vouch Check

    this was my convo on discord with the mod who gave out the punishment

    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:20 PM
    hey i was just banned for 2 weeks by you for "fake vouching". i dont know why
    id like more info please, im just suddenly banned no explanation no proof like what
    King-Yesterday at 11:22 PM
    You have a home IP match
    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:31 PM
    but its not a fake vouch
    so i dont understand
    King-Yesterday at 11:31 PM
    You're the same person, and you vouched for yourself
    That's fake vouching
    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:35 PM
    just cause it was one instance of same ip doesnt mean its same person. yeah i know the guy and he was visitng me for a weekend and had same ip. my point is there is no vouches. the guy who reproted is salty cause i won a dice. he put posts from my main thread, not my vouches. i dont know if you can see the ips for each post but im sure someone can and could verify that
    King-Yesterday at 11:36 PM
    That's fake vouching. Wait your 2 weeks, or create a dispute, but it will most likely get denied so.
    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:37 PM
    him saying hes ordering a quest from me from his home is fake vouching? what?
    im saying yeah 1 of his posts was from my ip when he was here, but the rest are not
    King-Yesterday at 11:40 PM
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    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:46 PM
    and another question, the 2 week ban sure, am about to dispute that now. but why the TWC? this has nothing to do with trades
    King-Yesterday at 11:46 PM
    TWC for faking vouch
    2 week ban + TWC = punishment
    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:47 PM
    yea but there no correlation between the report and trading
    King-Yesterday at 11:47 PM
    It doesn't matter because you faked your vouches at the end of the day
    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:48 PM
    how doesnt matter? youre saying all my vouches are fake lol?
    King-Yesterday at 11:48 PM
    I never said that
    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:48 PM
    1 they arent fake, like i said it was a real person, but yeah same ip
    King-Yesterday at 11:48 PM
    In the report those vouches were fake
    not all your vouches
    Just dispute your ban and someone else will handle it if you disagree with my decision
    Jeff29-Yesterday at 11:49 PM
    thers no way all 4 of those posts were on my ip


    In my opinion he could of been more helpful in giving details and not so cold and rude but oh well.
    Anyways like I said one post was made from the same IP due to him visiting me. That does not mean it is a fake vouch nor does it mean I myself did it/or own the other account. You can see IPs for each individual post and I know that all those posts in the report, do not have my IP because he was only here for a short period of time and made one post during that time. Yes I understand the rule of the whole vouching thing that he needed to state he knows me irl. It was one time so thats my mistake and I thought it would not matter that much. I think the punishment I have received is very unfair and unnecessary. 2 weeks is a long time to go without business and especially the TWC. I think your punishment system needs updating as there is many levels to certain reports and issues. People do not go to prison for a traffic ticket. I know I broke a rule on that ONE post, but 2 weeks is way too long. On top of that the TWC is just blatantly uncalled for. Every TWC I have come accross has to do with a bad trade as it should. Myself getting a TWC rank makes zero sense as the entire issue stemmed from my own action and my own mistakes, having NOTHING to do with trading. Yeah you can say oh but thats misleading people to use you therefore can result in future bad trades. Come on that is absurd. One post out of so many will realistically not make a difference and that does not take away from the other MANY vouches I have. And again these are just simple posts on the main thread, they are not actually being viewed as "vouches." But yeah main thing I am trying to say is I understand I was wrong for the one post with the same IP and I would accept a punishment, but 2 week ban for that is really overkill. Even including a terrible call for a TWC rank as well...so unfair. Thanks to whoever will read all of this and hear my opinions.
     
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    @perfectman29 has posted only from your current IP, the other IP's are from mobile networks only (same location). You're claiming to be @wantacookie who has posted from different ISP's but all within the same area. Perfectman has only posted vouches for Wantacookie so it's quite obvious right here. You're free to provide us with skype chatlogs, you handing him out the account info and him providing you with the skills he has leveled. Once that's done you're free to try and dispute again, but right now this is as obvious as it could get. @King did perfectly well here, only thing he could've done better was removing the vouches, but that'd be it.
     
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