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It has been 3 years - Nyx

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    It has been 3 years - Nyx

    Good evening. I must say it took some self control not making this pardon any earlier. I do think about Sythe a lot often, and I still miss the atmosphere. I seem to remember, vaguely, that I submitted a pardon request half a year after I was banned, but I don't seem to find it. Anyway, I've been banned from Sythe for over 3 years now. That's well deserved, and if you decide that I should remain banned for another 300 years that wouldn't be uncalled for. The point I will try to make is not that I deserve to be unbanned for some reason, or that I was treated unfairly - I hope that I can make you realize that I want to contribute to the community again, and most of all, that I have changed, all melodrama aside.

    A little history, for those who forgot (that'll be all of you, I suppose!).
    About the first part, I'll just repeat what I wrote before. I was, frankly, a liar when I submitted my pardon 3 years ago (although my intentions were no longer malicious), and it was already a while back then - I doubt I somehow remember it better now.
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    I first joined Sythe in March 2009, with no intentions of scamming, but just to sell my account. (Well - to swap it actually, I had never heard of PayPal back then) I made the account 'thorkage'. I traded quite a lot, and there were some issues every now and then. One with a kid, sharing his account with a friend, then I swapped it for mine, his friend lost his claws, I was accused, etc... A complicated story, however, I was not guilty and I was not banned for it. Another thing was something with Video, someone was recovering an account without my knowledge, and I was selling it to Video at the same time. The appeal of the hacker was accepted after I gave Video my password, so both of us accused the other. Once again, we weren't found guilty, and we didn't get punished for it. We didn't lose anything either, I later managed to get my account back.

    But, a few months later, I don't recall when exactly, I was buying an account from someone at RSBots.net, and we agreed to a 50/50 trade. I sent the first part of the money, and asked for the account details, but he said he wanted the second part before he could send it. I got mad and treatened to dispute my money if he wouldn't give the account. He then tricked me into downloading a file with the 'account info', and it contained a RAT. I don't remember what Virus Scanner I used, but it wasn't detected until I later on installed Avast!. Apart from stealing my 2 RS accounts, he got onto my Sythe account and flooded a thread with meatspin links. I got a permanent ban for it, and I left Sythe for a while. I disputed the ban, later, because my computer had crashed, and the staff agreed on a one month ban. And 2 days after the ban, when I wanted to log in my account, I noticed that it was still banned. I did the wrong thing there: I just made a new Sythe account (Fuzion Ltd) and I started Sything again with the sole purpose of becoming UE and gaining a lot of trust, and to be a respected and loved member of the community. That's unfortunately not how it went, a real life friend quit RS and gave me his RSGP in order to sell it for him, and at the sale thread I decided to post a little story about how I got the money and said that I recovered it from RSC, something that was very popular among cheaters back then. I NEVER recovered any RSC account and I NEVER tried it. I swear that on my life. I just lied about it, and that was wrong. I got banned for it, and disputed it, but cracking was unforgivable. A few months later, I didn't evade the ban, I talked to Verts about it and I requested to be pardoned for lying. She unbanned me with a TWC. Skele Master banned me again, because I had confessed to be a ban evader in a goodbye thread that I made when I was banned on Fuzion.

    At that point I was really mad at Skele for banning me whilst I, in my ignorant eyes, back then, hadn't done anything wrong. The same day I made a few accounts with names like 'ThisIsNotFuzionSkele', 'NotFuzionSkeleMaster', and made a few troll posts in the spam forum. I don't think I offended anyone, and I didn't flame Skele or anything. I just tried to be funny.

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    NB: What I didn't include here was being scammed by some guy named M I K E, who repeatedly got unbanned without paying me back. That is, I believe, what made me angry towards Skele, and not the other thing. (a honest mistake, I believe, rare but true)

    It isn't that important - I do believe that I probably would have been pardoned for these offenses. It is true, that originally I meant no harm, but then I felt treated unfairly and I made an account, just to scam, to take back what I saw as mine, from a stranger. Scammed a random guy because I was scammed and I felt Sythe moderators didn't reach out to help. I am aware that this is the definition of immaturity, and only a dumb and selfish child woud do this. This was over four years ago. I was fourteen, I believe. I was, in many ways, messed up. I had just hit puberty and all that. Not an excuse. Never an excuse. I scammed, period. I am ONLY trying to explain what drove me, back in the day, to do that. And I can assure you that not a day passes without me wondering why, for god's sake, I did that. I would never steal, not even then. I would lecture my friends about how wrong it was to steal candy from the local grocery store, and then go home and steal some kid's hard earned money over the internet. I think the internet just functioned as a buffer for my guilt - but only for a short period.

    I got banned, of course, on this 'King of GP' account (only typing the names makes me shiver with shame). Excluding this essential paragraph, the rest I told was right, I guess, joined Sythe, with good intent this time, just like the first time, unlike the second time, blablabla, wanted to step up, and so on.

    So after scamming, a few months later, I lied. Why? At the time, I started to feel a little guilty, I suppose, because it wasn't really like I was afraid of getting caught. I was pretty comfortable as things were. But so, feeling heroic I 'stepped up', I 'was a man'. That's the only explanation I can think of, and it's pretty much bullshit. I excluded the only thing that mattered, that I had scammed.

    Now I can't help but notice, that this seems to be some illustration of Kohlberg's stages of moral development. At first I only cared about me, my money, getting back what was taken from me by any means. Then I started caring about what the community thought of me, and I wanted to see approval so I acted like it, and made some absurdly incomplete confession in order to receive this approval. And at some point one should be able to overcome these stages and act according to their own morals and ethic principles, obtained by rationality. This is sort of vague, I am aware of that, this is not some attempt to appear intellectual or anything like that (I doubt I even got the stages right) but I'm trying to explain that I am no longer the 14 year old scammer, or the 15 year old liar. And I sincerely believe some of you may have difficulties with that, you know, the whole 'once a scammer always a scammer' thing. But still, I'd like you guys to imagine what you were like when you were 14 - when I scammed, and later lied about it - and then, when you were 19. As much as I believe that I was a total moron and that you, hopefully, weren't, I must ask, didn't your ways, and your morals evolve in some way?

    Now, regardless of the outcome of this, I'd like assistance in refunding those who I scammed back then. This is something I've postponed way too long, whilst it should have been my priority years ago. I started looking into it almost 2 years ago, but I believe I only found 1 or 2 e-mail adresses and I don't even know if they belong to the right people. It's very hard without an account and thus without being able to PM, and I should have asked assistance regarding this matter long before today. I believe those who were scammed were RuinedLie and dead2devil. If anyone can show them these threads and post their contact details here (Skype or MSN) I'll get back to them for sure.

    Although I wouldn't have even bothered pardoning if I didn't give it a slight chance of success, I must say that my hopes aren't too high. Perhaps this is something that can never be forgiven, I guess I could fine peace with that. But I had to finally get in touch with these 2 guys whose justice is long due, so I figured I'd give it a shot. I believe that, even if I would be banned, a TWC or market ban would be no more than fair. I think it would be an appropriate measure, and, if that by any chance improve my chances - feel free to ban me permanently from the market.

    There is no one specifically I want to direct this post to - it's for Sythe in general - but I must say, from what I remember, it was SMR who helped me back on my feet on Sythe, even when I shouldn't have been there. I feel ashamed towards you now, after all these years. I'm sorry. And FireZ, I know chances are rather slim that you ever forgive me, and so are my chances of getting unbanned. I owe you an apology for lieing to you, in person. You owe absolutely nothing - all I ask you is that you read this through - and take one minute after that, before you swing the hammer to hit me back into the ground.
     
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    It has been 3 years - Nyx

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    It has been 3 years - Nyx

    Shouldn't really be considered until he pays them back
     
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    Let's see an attempting at repaying scammed victims
     
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    It has been 3 years - Nyx

    Get in contact with the people you owe money to, then post a new pardon.
     
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