Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments

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Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
  1. Unread #1 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:33 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    You all know that accepting stolen gold is against the rules.

    Firstly, if there is evidence of an actual trade where stolen gold is KNOWINGLY accepted then that is treated as a normal scam report. The gold is returned if possible to the person from whom it was stolen, and the parties to the trade are banned accordingly.

    Second, in the much more common case where someone attempts to sell what they claim is stolen gold to another party and the other party agrees to buy it, but no actual trade takes place, here's what happens:
    1. The buyer gets a warning about their worker (or in the event that they are a sole proprietor, a warning about their own behaviour.)
    2. On the second offence (for the same worker) the buyer is told to fire their worker or at minimum take them off purchasing. Penalty for non-compliance with this is a week-long ban for the buyer and their workers from the site.
    3. On third offence (for the same worker) the buyer and their workers are banned for a month.​

    Concerned members are also encouraged to take their complaints to PayPal or Google Wallet (whichever the buyer is using). Accepting stolen virtual goods is against the terms of service for these payment processors. Since sythe.org has limited staff resources, we would prefer if you could at least attempt to settle the dispute outside the site first.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:35 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Great rule. I like that the stolen gold is returned to the owner and justice is served. :)
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:36 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    That should clear things up, thanks. No more excuses for anyone...
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:37 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    It's nice that this has finally been formally addressed, hopefully it can be put to rest now. Thanks Richard.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:42 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    I see this being easily exploitable.. people are going to cry wolf to get people banned. How would you know if it was stolen or not?
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:51 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    KNOWINGLY accepting stolen goods. If the seller says they're stolen, and they accept them anyways, then they'll be punished.
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:52 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    I think there should be a person banned for scamming someone in the first place. After that the scammer sells the gold to a buyer from sythe. I guess.
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:54 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Thanks for clarifying the rules in place for those type of situations.
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:54 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    In the same way...
    What if Player A scammed Player B.
    Player B contacts Player C so he can sell his gold.
    Player C buys it without know it was stolen gold from Player A.

    What happens?
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Oct 23, 2013 at 9:57 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Then it isn't knowingly :p
     
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  21. Unread #11 - Oct 23, 2013 at 10:30 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Good to see.
     
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  23. Unread #12 - Oct 23, 2013 at 10:33 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    What if you stole gold from someone, and then sold it back to them? You would be giving the gold back to the person from whom it was stolen..

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  25. Unread #13 - Oct 23, 2013 at 10:36 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    What I'm wondering is... who would outright say "Hey, this gold was stolen / hacked... now that I got that out of the way, you wanna buy it?" I'm not sure, but I feel like that just never happens.

    Regardless, I'm simply surprised that people do this.
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Oct 23, 2013 at 10:37 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Sounds about right.
     
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  29. Unread #15 - Oct 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Good rule :) Glad to see it being put into place.
     
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  31. Unread #16 - Oct 23, 2013 at 11:31 PM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Thanks for the clarification Richard!
     
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  33. Unread #17 - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:16 AM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Well, I suppose if they're wanting you to wait you'd be like 'Hey, I just haxed this gold I need to offload it really quick and really cheap.'

    Good rule.
     
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  35. Unread #18 - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:26 AM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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  37. Unread #19 - Oct 24, 2013 at 12:35 AM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    this should be done way earlier, very good news:)
     
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  39. Unread #20 - Oct 24, 2013 at 1:10 AM
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    Accepting stolen gold against the rules -- schedule of punishments
    Glad to see some final judgement and calling on this kind of stuff :)
     
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