twc dispute

[kilzed]

The twc is not applied but i like to dispite it because the moderated thread is unproffesional and i believe twc is not the right choose.

About this -> http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1468886
Just this is ridicilous.
A twc cannot be requested by single screenshot of trade which never start because we never agree on both of our rules.
Twc can be requested when someone want to trick you or failed to scamm you i believe...
as we can see from the thread we cannot talk about scamming here or any tricks.
just tell him my Terms of services, he telle'd me his and we didn't have agreement.
If that TWC been added to my nickname,then i can use the same screenshot and same argumention for him to get TWC because he lied and he didn't accept my ToS.
Yes i have lied on my thread about that and i deserve to receive infraction.
I believe 1 point or however the admins/mods need to give me, but thats not twc'able.
Support me, let me know

I have seen more than 100+ persons which are starting gold buying thread and REFUSING to use middleman just because their Terms of services.
I have right to tell my ToS like he have the same right.
If we both don't get agreement (like it was happend) we just didn't trade.
Yes, i have lied about that he don't want to use middleman on his thread and thats not fair from my part.
Thats why i believe i deserve infraction, doesn't matter how many points i will receive because i did something wrong !
But i don't deserve a TWC for that kind of thing.
Sorry for my bad english and grammar, hope to get support.
Thanks for ur time

 

[video]

There was absolutely no reason for you to lie, and clearly you are open to using middlemen, as evidenced in your thread:

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1467774

The convo shows you denying a middleman, and then asking him repeatedly to give you 1b first. The TwC should remain

 

[kilzed]

That's not reason for TWC. Thats a pretty enough reason to get 1 point infraction for accuming of scamming without proofs.
Its just a post on thread nothing else, and stop bein arrogant and start acting to the members of sythe with respect because without us sythe is nothing.
I have been on sythe for 4+ years and never did anything wrong, and i won't let my profile get TWC rank for bullshit (because thats a bullshit).
Not everyone is scammer on sythe and i didin't scamm no one and i didn't do anything wrong.
A bad joke can't be punished with TWC rank because i didn't lie him about nothing and yes, i have the right to refuse middleman anytime when i want !
I have read clearly enough the sythe rules before start using it
P.S : Ofcourse i refused to use middleman with him, what is the problem ?
I have right to create my own ToS (regarding the sythe rules which not forbid refusing to use middleman).
I have my own terms of services and i just offered to him.
We both didnt agree and thats why we didn't do anything.
Nothing wrong was done here for TWC, its just a thing which must be punished with infraction

P.S.S : Attaching more things on the tread

Pm from Wulfspade1 -> http://imageshack.us/a/img839/572/answerw.png

From when refusing to use middleman is suspicious activity?
And from when asking newcomer to go first to old member is suspicious activity ?
I get it as methods for my own security.
Are u trying to call me scammer or something ?
From when my own methods for MY security become suspicious who and how did i harm ?
Everyone have a different way to stay safe and my method ( which almost everyone doing ) asking a newcomer to go first to old member is not anything suspicious.
Don't try make me look like i did somethinig really bad.
Yes it was bad joke,yes it was a lie, and yes i have try to ruin his reputation.
I deserve infraction, but TWC for this ? Cmon...
I learned my lesson and that will never happend again.
I have seen a lot of things on sythe for those 4+ years but never seen a TWC request for something like that.

 

[kilzed]

Bump!
The seller was obviously a scammer and now he is banned.
I don't deserve a TWC for my own terms of security,especially when i do my re-search and find out he is just another scamming evader.
Ofcourse i will ask him to go first and thats the only person which i ask to go first to me.
I have NEVER refused to use middleman, i just suggested different ways for trading.
After we didn't agree of our terms of trading we both just leave it.
Yes i know i have lied in his thread, but the end is important.
The evader(scammer) is now banned and i believe i don't deserve TWC rank for that lie.
I'm really sorry about that i have lied but i'm pretty sure i have protected at least one person to not bein scammed.
Never did anything wrong and i will never do anything wrong in future, i will think before write and won't spam/lie again.
Take my regret and forgive me.
I'm okay to get infraction or anything else but really for me a TWC rank for this is fetched...
Thanks for ur time sythe mods,hope to pardon me about this kiddish lie.

 

Trade with cautions are given for suspicious behavior. You lying about middlemen, and refusing to use one, is very suspicious. Your trade with caution is deserved due to your actions.

You should come back in a while with some good vouches after successful trades with your new rank.

 

[kilzed]

This rank is not deserved for such a thing and i pretty enough explain the situation and why.
There is no Suspicious behavior and i never have refsed to use middleman.
Why u continue repeat that ? Where did u see i have refused middleman ? Nowhere.
Also refusnd middleman is not forbiden in sythe rules (no matter i didn't refused one).
A simple kiddish lie is nothing suspicious because we all get nervous when we see the obvious scammer and yes lie is bad thing but its not a bad when u protect someone with it.
Dialatic, stop bein ignorant and please understand me.Everyone make mistakes no one is sinless.
I learn my lesson and i will not lie agian never, but talkin about Suspicious behavior here is not in the right place.
We didn't even continue to chat after that because we didn't agree on our terms of own security.
Most of the chat i was kidding with him because i know he is scamming evader and he will never trade me even 1gp ( he actually didn't have even 1m because no one saw that gold).
Please forgive me about the lie and give me second and last chance.

 

I'm not being ignorant, I'm going based on the report on you.

http://i.imgur.com/Gj5YQ.png

Looks to me like you refused to use a middleman. Using a middleman isn't mandatory, but it is suspicious that you would make him go first for such a large trade without one.

 

[kilzed]

I think u didn't get it from the chat.
he is the one telling me "you first or middleman"
I can't read anywhere me refusing middleman, i'm just offering different ways for trade for my own security.
Also i know he didn't have the gold and he won't trade/show me even 1 gp with or without middleman and i have noticed why i was and i'm still thinkin like that.
He is just another ban evader which was trying to scamm newcomers and i was pretty sure about that.
Trolling someone,lying about his status to or without protect peoples isnt reason for twc.
There is no suspicious activity or even REFUSING middleman, and i have noted also that even if i WAS refused middleman thats not twc'able.
I'm pretty sure u are sceptic about me, but i didn't anything wrong so far (exception the lie which i'm sorry about it).
Don't know u believe everyone is trying to scamm here, i believe most of the persons on sythe are Scared to not bein scammed and think about more than 1000 ways to protect their own security.
Anyway, i don't see anything bad here except the lie which was kiddish by myself and i'm really sorry about it (i'm writting this for like 4 time because i'm really sorry) but thats not twc'able for me because we all have right to protect our own cash from scammers especially when we see obvious one here which was already banned.

 

Come back and try to dispute again once you have a few vouches from with your TWC.