short answer...no...Kind of depends on your levels and if you have ancients or not..but basically you want a really high str level so that when you barrage+gmaul them, they die instantly...sure you might get a couple kills here and there, but you aren't going to be beastly or anything...I say get 85+ at sw keepiing your hp the same as it is, plus get barrage if you don't have it already..