Hey, guys.

[Unregistered_Wulfspade1]

I understand where this is coming from, Draucia, right? I always knew he'd be a detriment to me one way or another. I just want you guys to know, I don't talk to him anymore.

Well, I'm sorry he vouched me, I was young, and I didn't know any better. While I progressed with Sythe, I noticed, and I'm like, "Shit! That's self-vouching." So, I removed the vouch from my vouch thread; http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=749728. As you can see, that vouch isn't in the OP, so I didn't acknowledge it. But, I forgot to delete the post, it was a mistake on my part, I'm sorry. Anything I can do about this?

 

[Scottay]

There was a post on Spyike about you being over at his house, it was a few days before you posted your pardon. So I'm assuming you still talk to him...? also

I sent a PM to matthew about this about last week. But a couple of days ago someone else found out about it.There was one thing that I am pretty sure was a Self Vouch + Fake vouch (but thats just an assumption). It was found in this thread : http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=5866800

You said you will do his job after you do another person's skilling. It was already late at night and the vouch was in the morning. It is just a hunch but it looked like a classic fake vouch to me. Also considering that you guys know eachother irl and have logged the same IPs.

If you knew about this too I'm curious to why you never mentioned it in your previous pardon or to an admin.

Also for reference I think this was the other one : http://www.sythe.org/showpost.php?p=5873523&postcount=3


Those were never deleted. I don't know why you didn't just mention it in your pardon before.

 

[Unregistered_Wulfspade1]

There was a post on Spyike about you being over at his house, it was a few days before you posted your pardon. So I'm assuming you still talk to him...?

I know him IRL, my parents know him, I can't just cease contact with him because of Sythe? I knew him all my life... I don't talk to him "online," though. I practically never talked to him after I got off-topic moderator.

I sent a PM to matthew about this about last week. But a couple of days ago someone else found out about it.There was one thing that I am pretty sure was a Self Vouch + Fake vouch (but thats just an assumption). It was found in this thread : http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=5866800

What... no..? Why would you think that. I have no records of these trades besides the vouches, but who records there trades that EARLY of joining Sythe? How did you even come to the conclusion they're fake vouches?

You said you will do his job after you do another person's skilling. It was already late at night and the vouch was in the morning. It is just a hunch but it looked like a classic fake vouch to me. Also considering that you guys know eachother irl and have logged the same IPs.

What were the times? You'll have to change them to Eastern times, but I honestly don't think those "times" were a big deal.

If you knew about this too I'm curious to why you never mentioned it in your previous pardon or to an admin.

Also for reference I think this was the other one : http://www.sythe.org/showpost.php?p=5873523&postcount=3


Those were never deleted. I don't know why you didn't just mention it in your pardon before.

Because, like I stated, before I was a moderator on Sythe, I realized it was a fake vouch, so I deleted it from my OP, but I forgot to delete the post? It was an honest mistake, but I thought that petty thing would be done with when I removed it from my OP. I have no interest in the market of Sythe, besides moderation, and casual MM'ing.

 

[FireZ]

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=835410

That is a vouch just about anyway you look at it, not a textbook one though.

 

[Scottay]

I know him IRL, my parents know him, I can't just cease contact with him because of Sythe? I knew him all my life... I don't talk to him "online," though. I practically never talked to him after I got off-topic moderator.

I was simply responding to your point that you don't talk to him anymore.

What... no..? Why would you think that. I have no records of these trades besides the vouches, but who records there trades that EARLY of joining Sythe? How did you even come to the conclusion they're fake vouches? What were the times? You'll have to change them to Eastern times, but I honestly don't think those "times" were a big deal.

It was more of a hunch, considering that if I knew eachother irl I found it odd that you guys almost acted as if you didn't know eachother. Feel free to disregard that part, it was never conclusive just something I found interesting.

Because, like I stated, before I was a moderator on Sythe, I realized it was a fake vouch, so I deleted it from my OP, but I forgot to delete the post? It was an honest mistake, but I thought that petty thing would be done with when I removed it from my OP. I have no interest in the market of Sythe, besides moderation, and casual MM'ing.

I had just assumed that you would have came out with it in your pardon before. Even if it was petty why not just come out with it there? If you thought that Dracuia may have become a detriment to you why wouldn't you mention your past relations with him in that pardon?

 

[Corey]

But, I forgot to delete the post, it was a mistake on my part, I'm sorry.

So basically, you were just going to cover it up by deleting the post, rather than coming forward about it?

You've had plenty of time to make us known of all your wrong doings, and you chose to hide it from us.

I am disappointed, to say the least.

 

[FireZ]

Not very pleased that you didn't come out with this in your pardon, maybe because Dracuia would have brought your pardon down farther?

 

[cosrob97]

What are you disputing here? You did the crime and to be fair you should do the time. This is no different to what Plznate did. He did the vouch, deleted it, still was banned for it.

What's more to dispute?

 

[FireZ]

Denied. 90 day ban will be served.


As a moderator, you are fully expected to know and adhere to the rules of Sythe.org, and in this particular instance you have not. You also should have come out with this in your pardon.

 

[Unregistered_Wulfspade1]

FireZ said I could make this.

So basically, you were just going to cover it up by deleting the post, rather than coming forward about it?

You've had plenty of time to make us known of all your wrong doings, and you chose to hide it from us.

I am disappointed, to say the least.

If you find a moderator that spammed when he first joined sythe, he was naive, and wasn't infracted for it, would you penalize him for that? I wouldn't, because he has LEARNED his lesson. Same thing with me, I didn't know better, I acknowledged it was a fake vouch and dealt with it by removing it. I didn't hide this Corey, I thought the upper staff would have found out about this by now, I mean, I went up to global, I thought this would have been known. Again, I remind you, this is when I was NAIVE, I first joined Sythe, I didn't know ANY better, after all, I did delete it?

Not very pleased that you didn't come out with this in your pardon, maybe because Dracuia would have brought your pardon down farther?

Like I said, I thought you guys would have did a background check on me, and I thought you guys knew about this..? I mean I choose to confess something I wouldn't be caught for, but I'm banned for something I did, wouldn't make sense, right? Also, read above.

What are you disputing here? You did the crime and to be fair you should do the time. This is no different to what Plznate did. He did the vouch, deleted it, still was banned for it.

What's more to dispute?

This is a trade that's happened, and a vouch I deserve. But, I acknowledged it was technically a "self vouch," so I deleted it, and I thought that's that. Didn't Plznate get a vouch that he didn't deserve?

Denied. 90 day ban will be served.


As a moderator, you are fully expected to know and adhere to the rules of Sythe.org, and in this particular instance you have not. You also should have come out with this in your pardon.

Of course, I do. This is something that happened when I was naive, I didn't know any better. Regarding to the pardon, read above.

Guys, I'm not even sure if this would change the result of the dispute, but I'm saying, this was when I was naive, I didn't know any better, I thought that would be a good way of dealing with it, and I already thought this was researched. I'm sorry if I let you down, but I care about Sythe, and I would never do anything to harm it, or the people that use it. Thank you for reading.

 

[Unregistered_Wulfspade1]

Can someone also define IRL vouching? Draucia vouched me when I was in Virginia, and he was in Ohio. Then, I went to his house, posted, and got his IP on my account. By the way, this is when he WAS a moderator, so I don't think he wouldn't want to be demoted over self-vouching.

 

[FireZ]

Vouching anyone you know in the real world.