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The Don Kiluminati1
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Ban reason: Interested in Phishing
Lift date: Never
Name: The Don Kiluminati
Report - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1062873
Summery: I got a perm ban, because on another site I "asked" out of pure curiousity, knowledge's sake and a better understanding on protecting myself, as to how Phishers are able to munipulate a URL to look exactly like Jagex's. The reason I was curious (for this one time only) is because from what I knew, it was impossible to "imitate or copy PhP files" and here was a php link that looks exactly like Runescape's. For this reason ONLY i asked on another site. I first was going to ask on sythe (in user education forums), but when I wrote up half the post, I realised I can't use the example without risking getting in trouble, so I decided to ask on Rune-mart where links are allowed to be posted (as example and warning given). That's how innocent I thougth asking a simple question was.
Basically, I got banned for asking 1 question about how someone can possibly munipulate a PHP url, a question that was inspired by me nearly getting phished. Never got in trouble before, always followed rules for 6 years since I've been at sythe, no one's ever had a problem with me; however I still got banned for something that I believe is a misunderstanding/ I do not see how this is a crime, and I will explain why.
I'm not interested in phishing, I never have done it before and never will. I have a list of contacts on MSN and none of them will tell you I've ever tried to give them dodgy links or anything. In fact, i've never even ever mentioend the word "phisher", I wonder if doing a search on my sythe account how many times the word phisher even comes up, or even on ********.
I did a one time thing on Rune-Mart by making a thread asking out of complete curiousity on how Phishers are able to make url's so real. I keep getting emails every single day, most of them I can tell are phishers but one of them caught my attention and I nearly fell for it due to url and for complete knowledge's sake I asked about it. The only part I asked about was the end url that looks exactly like the RS Site, which prior too I was pretty sure was impossible to do.
1. Firstly, this is how my email looks with the amount of Phishers I get every day -
This is how the usual phishers look like for me... -
This is the phisher that caught my attention and for the sake of knowledge and better protection, I wanted to know how they were able to do it -
2. This is the misunderstood part, where I asked the question about the URL.
This was not because I was interested in phishing, this was pure curiousity on knowing how phishers can copy a php file url and make it look exactly like jagex's.
This was a causual question, based on me comming across and nearly falling for this phisher the first time. I am sorry if this was against sythe rules.
Please keep reading for absolute proof that if i had intent on being "interested in phishing" then i would've had more connections and more posts that were related to phishing knowledge, however there is absolutly nothing. The only thing there is, is only this one question which I've explained above why I asked.
3. Next, if was really interested in Phishing, then the 17 posts that I have on Rune-Mart would mostly have some kind of significance to the phishing section. But the reality is this -
Join Date 02-23-2011 --- > 17 Posts ----> Only 1 releavant to Phishing Questioning.
THat place has phishing sales, phishing guides, phishing distributions, but not one post in any of those places are like;
"Thanks for this"
"I need help on this part, can you help me?"
"Please add me so we can talk"
"I'll buy it off you"
Not Once. The Majority of my posts are in the "Membership Upgrades/Giveaways/Guides" section, which is the forums where i'm funnily enough active on sythe aswell.
My Post History on Rune-Mart - http://www.rune-mart.com/vb/search.php?searchid=229679
^Please look through all of them, it is only 17 posts.
4. This is the first time something bad has happened and it's happend from a complete misunderstanding. I don't have anything to do with phishers, people that know me know I wouldn't have anything to do with it either. I've never pm'd someone linking them to something that isn't sythe forums, for example; if I'm buying or selling, or vouching i'll always link to sythe, never to anything else.
I've been around since 2005, never ever had any problems. This may not mean alot to you, but to me it does, for something like that I would never risk it.
Here is my vouches - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=7852213
Here is my upgrades shop - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=7855251
In my upgrades shop, you see the multiple people who trusted me with ALL their account info. Not once was there ever any kind of complaint. Even in my vouches I did over $3k worth of trades using Paypal alone, if I was going to try and make money through bad means, i could've disputed and got my money and accepted a ban only to try and do it again. But I'M NOT like that, never have been and never will be.
It was only yesterday that I brought a red phat for over $900 using paypal....
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^Already answered in number 2. Absolutly nothing wrong with seeking knowledge on something. If someone had intent to know more about phishing, they wouldn't start with URL's.
That is the accusers misunderestanding, I only replied to the person who I had quoted and in that I simply said that I was cautious about urls. Above the quote, I said I'm going to test to see if the url munipulation actually really works, right before this I re-affirm what I said about me thinking "they could copy php files".
Proof -
Not sure what the problem with this is, this is what I saw when the post was first made (it had no mentions of what the site actually was in the main post, i just thought it was a private community where you get free/high end stuff -
If you check my account on secretzone, you won't find any of my posts connected to phishing. I have like 2 posts and they are in the introduction section.
This was just free post count on something geniunly harmless. The proof is below on what I posted and where did I get my information from -
.....
Free post count, nothing else - everything backed up with what i said.
He is going of assumption again, without doing any research. I actually wanted a domain for a clan site, i first asked on sythe, proof -
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1038440
^That person above was seling it for 270m (lifetime) but i only wanted 1 year, so i had no sellers form sythe yet.
Then I heard someone was selling it for 6m on Rune-Mart. And this is the MSN convo logs -
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THere's nothing else that I can say, I feel fustrated about this. Even if it was against sythe rules to "ask bout something" which is related to a phishing url, I don't think a perm ban is right. There was no "intent" in it, that is proven by the fact that i have no other traces of having anything to do with phishing or anything remotely related to it. None of my other posts are related, their all in the guides/giveaways section which is all perfectly legit. The "domains" thing has been heavily refuted and so has the "secretzone", so all that's left is the question, which I've done my best to explain was just over curiousity over the php url munipulation.
I deeply want to apologise if I have broken rules, if I did then there was no intent on it. I am very regretful even though I'm not sure what I should be regretful on, i've tried my best to explain myself and clear the misunderstanding.
At the very least, I just ask for the perm ban be changed to a short term or even a long term ban. I've worked hard at sythe, and feel very bad if i was to lose everything over something like this.
I just ask for re-consideration to the ban and for another chance. If Rune-mart is the problem, then I've already asked for them to ban me -
Bottom line is, I am not interested in phishing which the ban reason was given. I never have been and never will be, phishing/hacking/scamming is nothing to do with me. Please realise this -.-
Lift date: Never
Name: The Don Kiluminati
Report - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1062873
Summery: I got a perm ban, because on another site I "asked" out of pure curiousity, knowledge's sake and a better understanding on protecting myself, as to how Phishers are able to munipulate a URL to look exactly like Jagex's. The reason I was curious (for this one time only) is because from what I knew, it was impossible to "imitate or copy PhP files" and here was a php link that looks exactly like Runescape's. For this reason ONLY i asked on another site. I first was going to ask on sythe (in user education forums), but when I wrote up half the post, I realised I can't use the example without risking getting in trouble, so I decided to ask on Rune-mart where links are allowed to be posted (as example and warning given). That's how innocent I thougth asking a simple question was.
Basically, I got banned for asking 1 question about how someone can possibly munipulate a PHP url, a question that was inspired by me nearly getting phished. Never got in trouble before, always followed rules for 6 years since I've been at sythe, no one's ever had a problem with me; however I still got banned for something that I believe is a misunderstanding/ I do not see how this is a crime, and I will explain why.
I'm not interested in phishing, I never have done it before and never will. I have a list of contacts on MSN and none of them will tell you I've ever tried to give them dodgy links or anything. In fact, i've never even ever mentioend the word "phisher", I wonder if doing a search on my sythe account how many times the word phisher even comes up, or even on ********.
I did a one time thing on Rune-Mart by making a thread asking out of complete curiousity on how Phishers are able to make url's so real. I keep getting emails every single day, most of them I can tell are phishers but one of them caught my attention and I nearly fell for it due to url and for complete knowledge's sake I asked about it. The only part I asked about was the end url that looks exactly like the RS Site, which prior too I was pretty sure was impossible to do.
1. Firstly, this is how my email looks with the amount of Phishers I get every day -
This is how the usual phishers look like for me... -
This is the phisher that caught my attention and for the sake of knowledge and better protection, I wanted to know how they were able to do it -
2. This is the misunderstood part, where I asked the question about the URL.
This was not because I was interested in phishing, this was pure curiousity on knowing how phishers can copy a php file url and make it look exactly like jagex's.
This was a causual question, based on me comming across and nearly falling for this phisher the first time. I am sorry if this was against sythe rules.
Please keep reading for absolute proof that if i had intent on being "interested in phishing" then i would've had more connections and more posts that were related to phishing knowledge, however there is absolutly nothing. The only thing there is, is only this one question which I've explained above why I asked.
3. Next, if was really interested in Phishing, then the 17 posts that I have on Rune-Mart would mostly have some kind of significance to the phishing section. But the reality is this -
Join Date 02-23-2011 --- > 17 Posts ----> Only 1 releavant to Phishing Questioning.
THat place has phishing sales, phishing guides, phishing distributions, but not one post in any of those places are like;
"Thanks for this"
"I need help on this part, can you help me?"
"Please add me so we can talk"
"I'll buy it off you"
Not Once. The Majority of my posts are in the "Membership Upgrades/Giveaways/Guides" section, which is the forums where i'm funnily enough active on sythe aswell.
My Post History on Rune-Mart - http://www.rune-mart.com/vb/search.php?searchid=229679
^Please look through all of them, it is only 17 posts.
4. This is the first time something bad has happened and it's happend from a complete misunderstanding. I don't have anything to do with phishers, people that know me know I wouldn't have anything to do with it either. I've never pm'd someone linking them to something that isn't sythe forums, for example; if I'm buying or selling, or vouching i'll always link to sythe, never to anything else.
I've been around since 2005, never ever had any problems. This may not mean alot to you, but to me it does, for something like that I would never risk it.
Here is my vouches - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=7852213
Here is my upgrades shop - http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=7855251
In my upgrades shop, you see the multiple people who trusted me with ALL their account info. Not once was there ever any kind of complaint. Even in my vouches I did over $3k worth of trades using Paypal alone, if I was going to try and make money through bad means, i could've disputed and got my money and accepted a ban only to try and do it again. But I'M NOT like that, never have been and never will be.
It was only yesterday that I brought a red phat for over $900 using paypal....
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Reply against Accusations
^Already answered in number 2. Absolutly nothing wrong with seeking knowledge on something. If someone had intent to know more about phishing, they wouldn't start with URL's.
That is the accusers misunderestanding, I only replied to the person who I had quoted and in that I simply said that I was cautious about urls. Above the quote, I said I'm going to test to see if the url munipulation actually really works, right before this I re-affirm what I said about me thinking "they could copy php files".
Proof -
Not sure what the problem with this is, this is what I saw when the post was first made (it had no mentions of what the site actually was in the main post, i just thought it was a private community where you get free/high end stuff -
If you check my account on secretzone, you won't find any of my posts connected to phishing. I have like 2 posts and they are in the introduction section.
This was just free post count on something geniunly harmless. The proof is below on what I posted and where did I get my information from -
.....
Free post count, nothing else - everything backed up with what i said.
He is going of assumption again, without doing any research. I actually wanted a domain for a clan site, i first asked on sythe, proof -
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1038440
^That person above was seling it for 270m (lifetime) but i only wanted 1 year, so i had no sellers form sythe yet.
Then I heard someone was selling it for 6m on Rune-Mart. And this is the MSN convo logs -
----------
THere's nothing else that I can say, I feel fustrated about this. Even if it was against sythe rules to "ask bout something" which is related to a phishing url, I don't think a perm ban is right. There was no "intent" in it, that is proven by the fact that i have no other traces of having anything to do with phishing or anything remotely related to it. None of my other posts are related, their all in the guides/giveaways section which is all perfectly legit. The "domains" thing has been heavily refuted and so has the "secretzone", so all that's left is the question, which I've done my best to explain was just over curiousity over the php url munipulation.
I deeply want to apologise if I have broken rules, if I did then there was no intent on it. I am very regretful even though I'm not sure what I should be regretful on, i've tried my best to explain myself and clear the misunderstanding.
At the very least, I just ask for the perm ban be changed to a short term or even a long term ban. I've worked hard at sythe, and feel very bad if i was to lose everything over something like this.
I just ask for re-consideration to the ban and for another chance. If Rune-mart is the problem, then I've already asked for them to ban me -
Bottom line is, I am not interested in phishing which the ban reason was given. I never have been and never will be, phishing/hacking/scamming is nothing to do with me. Please realise this -.-
