Ban Dispute

[My Dispute]

(Mod David is my sythe username)
I contacted marrow over msn and found out plznate deleted my dispute forum. (I figured considering he banned me for nonsense and doesn't want anyone to see my dispute)

What I had in my first dispute-

http://pastebin.com/2XFc3mRh

Originally Posted by Mod David View Post
I'm done using this shit of a website known as "Sythe". See ya, I'll be using runegear from now on.
Take your whining there. Good riddance.


Please learn the definition of "Whining" before ever accusing me of whining again. I was making a point about how sythe works. I refuse to use the un-safe MM'S and in return I got TWC. I call bullshit my friend.. I'm not whining I'm stating that what one of you did because of my beliefs is total bullshit. Nowhere in the rules does it state I have to use an MM/OMM in a trade. Are you mad because I attacked your boy Firez? I'm saying what I believe is true. I have seen trusted users scam again, again, again, and again, and again, and a few days the person claims he/she has been hacked. Why should I be punished for using my rights to not go first or use someone I don't trust? I joined sythe before you and have watched sythe before you even knew about the website.

I'd appreciate it if you were to reply back. I'm not trying to hate on sythe or users themselves, but I had to say what I believed man>_<

You accused him of being a scammer without proof. You are entitled to your opinion, as dumb as they may be, however you are not entitled to throw around accusations on Sythe without any proof.

If you dont like the rules and have an obvious lack of trust or respect for the people who run the site, then you are not an asset to the site by any means, hence why I say "good riddance".

Show me evidence of Firez actually being hacked and I'll believe! If you try to use the "Ip doesn't match" hocus pocus" I don't count that as evidence because changing your ip is quite simple now a days..

The burden of proof is on YOU, not him, if you want to make that accusation. Otherwise, its against the rules.

My proof is vpns, proxies, and purchasing static/dynamic ips. It really isn't that hard to change your ip... Hacking someone is hard, but changing your ip isn't. I'm just stating the obvious answer.. Hacking isn't the obvious answer because there's no evidence. (decide an IP Change?)Back to me now You think not trusting Mms/Omms should get TWC? The rules state nothing about having to use an MM/OMM... I have been on this site since 2007 and I should have a right to not use an MM/OMM or go first to someone. I'm even willing to verify my Phone number and Home Address to any sythe staff>> I wasn't planning to scam or do any harm to the sythe community. I was scammed for $1,200.00 by someone with 50+ vouches and choose not to trust others anymore. What's wrong about that? I don't understand why I'm punished with the "Trade With Caution" rank...

That is all speculation, not proof.

For example, I could speculate that you are a scammer and will be banned within a week, but since I have no solid proof to back it up, you are not banned.

Clean up your attitude, quit cussing out anyone who disagrees with you, and learn to follow the rules, clean up your trading habits, then dispute your TwC sometime later.

I said I'd contact one of you over the phone and verify my address? Why the hell would I do that if I'm scamming? Makes no damn sense.. When these dumbfucks waste my time trying to scam me, tell me to go first when he/she joined 2 days ago and has 3-70 posts, and than rages when I say no I have every right to swear their asses out. I'm 18 and can talk however the hell I want.. When 15-17 year olds kids attempt to scam me and rage about me not going first my mean side comes out. You just contradicted yourself lol.. You said claiming such things is against the rules; yet I'm TWC'D for an fake accusation about me. So you're saying I don't have a right to say no I'm not using an OMM or no I'm not going first? You've got to be kidding me:noworry:

If your gonna have a shit attitude then Im done speaking with you. You wanna be on Sythe? Follow the rules or you will be out of here pretty dam quick. This includes following basic forum etiquette. Cheers.

I'm not being rude to you. try reading what I said and you'll understand what I mean. I'm swearing about the idiots who wasted my time, spammed false accusations, and so on..



This is a copy of our private message. The last pm I sent he dodged and gave me an ban.


Why the hell did I get banned for speaking the truth? Plznate is madbecause I'm speaking about what firez possibly did and how it affects the MMS Rank. He stated that he couldn't ban me because he can only speculate I was planning to scam someone. His reason for banning me is "Suspicious Activity" I'm 18 and don't have a right to say to using an OMM, say no to going first, and I can't swear now? What's up with this website?...

Why don't I trust many?

One being trusted users scam all the time and a few days laters claim they're hacked (Firez Possibily, Rabs, and many others in the past) are unbanned after a while. I don't trust MM'S/OMM'S anymore. The only MM I'd trust is R2pleasent and that's it. How does my beliefs punish me in being given the "Trade with caution" rank and being banned over a redicilous reason?


Evidence of me being scammed (The only evidence I have)
http://img696.imageshack.us/i/scammeed.png/
Me sending the money


Pm I get a couple secs after he went into runescape dungeon..
http://img145.imageshack.us/i/eeea.png/




Marrow said global moderators have power over plznate. Sadly I can't get in touch with an Global Moderator so..




Here's the msn convo me and marrow had-

es, let me explain.
Yesterday I got a TWC rank for hocus pocus.
I don't trust a lot of people and I have actual reasoning behind my beliefs.
After plznate posted a very immature comment in my posted and locked I decided to pm him.
as you can see here-
http://pastebin.com/2XFc3mRh
I uploaded our pms.
As you can see the last 2-3 pms I sent he dodged the questions.
In his pm he clearly states I can't speculate firez scammed people and it's against the rules.
If that's so why am I Twc'd for speculation?
Makes absolutely no sense to me..
He also states that he can't ban me because he has no evidence or anything to backup his speculation of me trying to scam people.
When I sent the last pm explaining why I called someone "Dumbfuck" and so on he didn't reply, and simply banned me.
What's that about?
The ban reason is "Suspicious Activity"
I don't have the right to say firez scammed people is claiming to be hacked, but they have a right to accusse me of attempt of scamming people?
Since when did sythe require to use an OMM or go first ?
I'm TWC'D for that very reason.
In my ban dispute I re-directed them to the pastebin of our pms, I pasted the pms, and typed this.
Why the hell did I get banned for speaking the truth? Plznate is butt hurt because I'm speaking about what firez did and how it affects the MMS Rank. He stated that he couldn't ban me because he can only speculate I was planning to scam someone. His reason for banning me is "Suspicious Activity" I'm 18 and don't have a right to say to using an OMM, say no to going first, and I can't swear now? Wha
What's up with this website?...

Why don't I trust many?

One being trusted users scam all the time and a few days laters claim they're hacked (Firez Possibily, Rabs, and many others in the past) are unbanned after a while. I don't trust MM'S/OMM'S anymore. The only MM I'd trust is R2pleasent and that's it. How does my beliefs punish me in being given the "Trade with caution" rank and being banne
being banned over a redicilous reason?


Evidence of me being scammed (The only evidence I have)
http://img696.imageshack.us/i/scammeed.png/
Me sending the money


Pm I get a couple secs after he went into runescape dungeon..
http://img145.imageshack.us/i/eeea.png/
I'm sorry if this a lot for you read.
to read.
I'm trying to give you the full story.
Now I'll wait for you to reply back
Now for this thread I don't how it ended up in scammer archive. I remember posting this in the trading section. I posted nothing about the twc in the scammer section.
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1056713
To reply to plznate's post.- Re: Mod David Report

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If I were scammer I would buy a disposable phone to let people feel secure by calling me, show a paypal balance to display a false sense of security, and just like you, I wouldnt use an MM.

I'm willing to use my video camera and record my phone number ON MY CELL PHONE.
His speculation is once again a bunch of hocus pocus.
marrow says
zzzz
im not reading that
David Bolsah says
Why not?
It honestly isn't that long marrow..
You can't understand what's going on without reading what I said..
marrow says
why dont u post a dispute
David Bolsah says
I already did. It's pointless because if Plznate see's it first He probably delete dit.
deleted it.
I posted my dispute over 4 hours ago and it still hasn't shown up on my page.
I can't view my own dispute.
Could you check my dispute for me?
marrow says
look man
its deleted
David Bolsah says
lol...
Just like I thought..
Does it tell you who deleted it or why it was deleted?
marrow says
nate deleted
David Bolsah says
lol...
see
marrow, you need to help me out man.
He's abusing his powers to keep me shut.
I knew this would happen..
How am I supposed to dispute if nate deletes my disputes?

Quite pathetic of him to do that in my opinion.
marrow says
firez is hacked
David Bolsah says
I understand that.
I stated "POSSIBLY"
marrow says
so what are you banned for?
David Bolsah says
I used that example to explain why I don't trust OMM'S..
I'm banned for pming plznate and he didn't like what I see?
I told you the reason
"Suspicious activity"
marrow says
ok
lol
David Bolsah says
If you looked at the uploaded pms you'd understand.
marrow says
so you refused to use an OMM
David Bolsah says
He clearly states he can't be me for speculation; yet he did.
Marrow, yes, but I have reasons behind it.
I'm not trying to scam anyone.
I was scammed out of $1,200.00 and have yet to get it back from my bank..
http://img145.imageshack.us/i/eeea.png

img696.imageshack.us/i/scammeed.png
img696.imageshack.us/i/scammeed.png
Since I was scammed I don't plan to take any risk anymore.
I joined in 2007 and was never accussed of scamming before this bullcrap..
marrow says
well erm
David Bolsah says
I have trust issues now.
marrow says
i cant do nething
David Bolsah says
I don't know what else to say.
So what am I supposed to do?
I tried contacting giddy for 4 hours now and haven't had a single responce back.
I added every moderator that was online. You're the only one who accepted the msn
I was actually planning to stop using sythe because of the big misunderstandings, but I decided not to because rumors are spreading about me like the swine flue itself..
In your ipinion do you believe plznate banned me for a valid reason or not?
I'd like to know what you think.
marrow says
no]
but
i cant do anything
David Bolsah says
You know why he's doing this?
He doesn't like how I mentioned firez.
What should I do?
Does sythe have a email address I could contact him by?
Sythe as in the owner of sythe.org
marrow says
'i gtg
try globals
they have authority over nate
i dont



I'm really hoping a Global Moderator see's this before Plznate does..

 

[Plznate]

Lol I have nothing to hide.

To staff:

http://sythe.org/showpost.php?p=8269689&postcount=218

Feel free to offer opinions please, but I think I am pretty spot on.

 

[KerokeroCola]

I'm with nate. Aside from the obvious suspicion that I've always had, I like to see that the dispute/high pardon forum instills a sort of reverence or humbleness in people. Although the latter is obviously not required, it never hurts. Furthermore, nothing has been done to address the fishiness that Nate (and many of us) saw in your posts. Cut to the chase next time and explain the fishiness plausibly.

TL;DR: How did you know that Don's account was sold at FJ without being involved in FJ and Sythe account sales?

 

[KerokeroCola]

Plznate, I spoke to KeroKeroCola over msn about the speculation. I'm not involved in anything "Jen" does. I know her from a website called "d2jsp.org". We did a trade for 1,000 fg for 10m in the past, and later after that we started talking on msn from time to time. I know what she does because she had "selling 05 sythe accounts for $5.00" advertised on her msn before and I asked wth do you mean you're selling sythe accounts?

She replied with "I have a stolen database of 2005 accounts encrypted in MD5 Hash". Later after on sythe I started seeing un-active 2005 accounts suddenly come back and relized jen was behind this.

I reported the stolen database I managed to get and explained to Kero how to decrypt the passwords.
I really hope you don't speculate I'm involved in this because I managed to get the database from none other Jen herself.

I reported the stole database to Kero because I believe it's the right thing to do.
I hope that explains how I know anything involved about sythe accounts being sold.

As for me not going first and not trusting OMM'S, I have explained that again, again, and again. I'll explain it one last time. I don't trust because I was scammed by someone on sythe a couple of days ago, I have seen trusted users act as if they're hacked and go on a scamming spree, and than hearing they're unbanned because the ip doesn't match.

I really hope you appriceate that I was willing to have the guts to ask Jen for the database and report it to you, and I'll be judged with less speculation from now on. That's all I have to say for now..

Posting for Mod David.


My synopsis: if he can provide proof of living in his previous '07 location as well as his current one, I think the FJ speculation will have to be thrown away. As far as the raging and attitude is concerned, David lost twelve hundred bucks in a scam. I'd be pretty pissed, too.

 

[KerokeroCola]

Since he asked for it.....

"Show me evidence of Firez actually being hacked and I'll believe! If you try to use the "Ip doesn't match" hocus pocus" I don't count that as evidence because changing your ip is quite simple now a days.."


Having an ip address from a different ISP 300+ miles away. How can I be in troy michigan and ohio at the same time? Please enlighten me how that works.

How can I be talking on msn through hotmail email sign in while someone else 300+ miles away is talking on my msn at the same time? Look at the chat logs that have been posted around sythe and if your not totally blind you'd see it obviously wasn't me. They are in the "Where did name (here) go thread and staff lounge"

Also Lightz95 was the sythe name of the guy who got me. I permed him for it as well.

I have dealt with almost $45,000 and you think I would set my own hacking up for less then 1 Bil gp? C'mon David get real, its also obvious you pay zero attention around here as to how many higher traders have been hacked, fyi its about 90% bud.

None of us trusted Mods/OMMS want your pixels and you'd have come across 100x better if you didnt have such ridiculous trading tactics.

If you do come back just follow the rules, wash your mouth out with some soap, wash it out again with some more soap, rinse and repeat yet again, and learn to trade like a normal person.

That is all, have a nice day

Looks like I'm a messenger boy today. The redirect of the quote links to an actual post, for anybody who wants to follow it.

 

[Plznate]

Will give you the benefit of the doubt for now. I suggest you take FireZ's advice though. PMing a global to unban.