Account Sales and Rares

Not everyones smart enough to transfer stuff off. Not everyone is going to simply not trade with someone for a good account for cheap, people are stupid that way.

If someone is that determined to sell their account, and NOT recover it, they wouldn't mind doing it.

 

I don't see how you need to be smart to trade gold from an account. If you really care about losing the account/gold, but you still purchase the account, transfer the gold. What is so complicated and so outside the box of transferring the gold from the purchased account? Buyers must realize the risk involved, and what is trying to be suggested by this thread can simply be avoided by the buyer transferring all of the wealth once he/she first gains access to the account. Trade it to a friends account or just multi-login and you are set.

 

I can already think of a way a hacker could abuse this, extremely easily, they wouldn't even have the chance to transfer over the gold if what I'm thinking of happened.

Caution should be used when it comes to large amounts of wealth ( Rares ).

 

Agree with honda. I don't think it should be a rule people should be aware that they need to trade with caution and buy from people they can trust.

 

It's true that the price of a decent armor set has gone up. Perhaps an upper limit on wealth of, say, 100M, would be preferable.

It's been implemented in the past. Some people didn't pay attention to the stickies, but by and large people followed it without complaint.

You seem to contradict yourself. First you say the buyer can always move the gold off the account if they feel unsafe, but then you say that it's impossible to expect the seller to do the same.

There is an extent to which traders are responsible for their own carelessness. But, that doesn't mean the site shouldn't try to limit scams, especially when doing so is easy. After all, scammed users are more likely to leave the market, or to turn around and scam someone else in return - an effect which I'm assuming is proportional to how much they lose. Neither outcome benefits the site.

 

What I'm saying is that if the buyer feels unsafe about the purchase, and fears losing the wealth, the buyer can just trade the wealth immediately after the purchase. My example of 10b brings out the fact that not everyone wants to move the gold from the account, as it may get banned. So from the sellers point of view, they might not want to risk the account being banned, so they want to sell the account with all of its wealth.

 

If you can't trust the member to not recover the account back then simply don't trade with them. If your simply buying the account for the items on it then just trade them off . This rule wasn't needed back then and it isn't needed now.

 

Let's say I purchased a Maxed account for $1,000.

However the seller had to remove $1,000 worth in items (GP, rares, materials etc.)

I cannot really do much with a naked account, so what would I do? I'd xfer my own stuff onto that account, or purchase GP from Sythe.

If I xfer my own stuff, and the account gets recovered, I'm dealt a double blow.
If I decide to purchase GP from Sythe, and get scammed, then I get a double blow.
If I decide to purchase Gp from Sythe, and then the account gets recovered with the GP on it, I'm dealt a double blow.

Now with the current regime.

I would most likely be purchasing that account for $1,800-$2,000 with all the items remaining on it.

I can do 2 things.

xfer what I don't need out.
Play and hope the account doesn't get recovered.


I guess what I'm trying to say is, people need wealth on their account, removing that wealth is not going to deter the fact that people can and will recover their accounts. If they want to, YOU WILL lose the account, and ofc you would xfer items onto that account, ofc you would buy some GP to use with the account

Personally I disagree with the proposed reinstatement of the rule.
Simply because If the original owner wanted to recover the account, nothing is stopping them.

 

Agree with malakadang. If you are buying an account with no gold on it, i would assume that gold will be obtained on the account one way or another. The original owner can recover the account any time. The suggestion is reasonable, but i don't think it would be practical, and i don't think that if would have a noticeable positive affect overall.

 

I think you are on to something. I would like to no about this too.

 

If the buyer seem's sketchy how about this.

Buyer purchases gold from a well trusted shop (eg; FireZ, hahanerd etc)
Real life money ---> RSGP

Completes the purchase of the account with the RSGP

The seller, then sells the RSGP back to real life money to a trusted buyer.

Bam everyone's happy

 

hmm idk

 

This doesn't eliminate any risks IMO.

BECAUSE...
As soon as the account seller sees that the buyer is buying 250m, don't you think the seller will assume its for his account and just recover it after the deal to buy the gold has been done?

Also what if the seller wanted to "add" free gold to the account for the person to help them get started. Would that be against the rules? If this rule is instated, alot of people will just buy easily sellable items, i.e. whips, dragon boots, and say it is gear for the character then when the buyer gets the account (s)he can sell the items and get the starting Gp.

 

That would just make things more complicated and decrease the price of an account.

 

I'd rather implement a "Trade at your own risk" rule for this particular issue. I'm not sure how it would work. This is a very tough choice:/

 

Agreed withtthe implament of "trade at your own risk" Fully agreed with this with the situation

 

Assuming the seller is a stalker and happens to see the buyer purchasing gp, he has no reason to assume that the gp is being purchased for the account in question. In fact, the buyer would have to be fairly stupid to purchase gp and immediately add it to a newly purchased account.

As stated earlier, I think it would be reasonable to have a cap on the amount of gp - say, 50m or 100m - sold with an account. That would be more than enough for basic starting gear, and wouldn't drastically affect the price of the account.

 

i support. though it may not make scamming in this area completely obsolete, i think it will certainly cut down the percentage of cases.

 

They can put the items/gold on a mule account for the time being.

I support.

 

Or you could just buy an empty account, and then buy 500m, and reverse the payment. Either way, the end result is the same. This rule would be completely pointless. This rule wouldn't cut back on the amount of recovered accounts, OR the amount of people opening disputes on PayPal/credit card company.