Ban IRL Money-Making guides

No support here.

Adding a different title to a movie and then saying it is yours is direct plagiarism. If they are rewording these guides and in that way making it their own, it can't be plagiarism. :/

Using that movie title logic to compare these reworded guides to obvious plagiarism, we should all stop doing essays to develop our creative writing skills and writing skills in general throughout grade school because apparently that shows no improvement...

Aside from that, I don't support it because you are looking at the 75% of useless shit out there that won't help anybody and ruining it for the 25% who work reasonably hard to make something to share with the Sythe community. Even if that number was 3% you are being unfair by simply saying "I don't want to distinguish between the good ones and the bad ones so lets BAN THEM ALL!!!!" Easy for someone who doesn't make guides to say, but I think you should all just be trying to find a way to get the verified/legitimate guides to stick out.

Feel free to disagree all you want, but the fact of the matter is, you are just ruining it for people who do legitimately try hard in this area.

 

Essays are original thought, you are arguing your own opinion and no one has the exact same opinion. What you're saying here is that essays are taking someone else's work and rewording it, and it hasn't been a month ago that I wrote well over 25 pages worth of essays and I never took someone else essay saying 'Oh, I am just going to change some words and call this my own'. I don't know how you write essays but from your comparison you must be doing it wrong.

So you think that people getting ripped off by the 75%/97% of bad guides is worth keeping because that 25%/3% are writing guides that might be original? That doesn't make sense. Something I learned in my engineering class was a principle 'For the Greater Good', your car swerves out of control and you can either hit 3 people or 1 person. What do you do? There is no other option. You hit the 1 person instead of the 3. It's like cutting off a finger to save the hand.

While sitting by a letting members get ripped off by useless guides.

Look at what Sypherz (An OGV) said 'Also, please note that a large portion of these guides don't work at all.' So if you want to sit by and let others get scammed because there might be two guides that could possibly work then that is on you, but I don't want people to get ripped off if it is preventable.

 

For you to say you write essays using your own imagination and no source means you're writing a journal and even then you are basing your writing off of something else. Seriously you are in engineering like me and you have never done a report? Have you ever did Shakespearian essays in high school? Last time I did an essay I'm pretty sure my University didn't tell me "Feel free to use no legitimate sources and make shit up using your mind." Because that doesn't happen.

The issue here isn't the 75% of people getting scammed. It's that 75% of people that AREN'T TAKING INITIATIVE TO AVOID FAKE GUIDES. Like I said the issue is how are we going to promote the guides that work.

A few people said it earlier on in this thread. We shouldn't remove a whole section just because people are trying their best to get the good ones noticed. It falls onto us to help get the good ones noticed.

That greater good concept doesn't work for shit here btw. Saying we should get rid of the whole section because people are putting forth the effort to get the good ones noticed is BS. People are too quick to get rid of things and never volunteer to help fix them.


And finally...so people take other Money Making Guides and rewrite their own based off of "THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH IT" what the hell is wrong with that? They are rewording this guide that was meant for everyone in general and offering their perspective on it, and how it worked for them. Sure sometimes it's just a complete copy, but sometimes this A C T U A L L Y helps people understand it from a real person's point of view attempting it.

 

Except that none of these guides share personal experiences with the method. They are all a general idea of how to execute the method, not personal takes on them.

 

i think maybe not ban all irl guides altogether, but maybe ban just non verified IRL money guides.

Maybe just make it so all guides must be verified.

Someone might so "oh well then the mods will have to verify a million guides, blah blah blah"

but not really because if people knew they have to be verified then they will not try to have their plagiarized or bullshit guides verified and therefore, theoretically only true, legit guides should be going thru the verification process.

 

I don't like the idea of this. I mean, teachers get paid right? Of course information is available, but clearly people lack knowledge of it. If someone wants to buy an IRL guide, let them? There's no reason why this should be taken off. A lot of people put time into writing guides, explaining them and giving tips, and I don't think I've ever seen someone complaining after buying a credible RL money making guide.

Sure Mr June '12 5 / Posts might make an irl guide thats bs, but every other market has it's scammers.

As long as the guide is true to it's word it shouldn't be an issue. If it's not the user has to refund/ is banned, why should that ruin it for everyone wanting to sell, and more important, buy such guides.

 

I agree completely. I mean pretty much all of them are leaked or lies or else they could do it themselves instead of sharing the guide with others. People who sell money making guides are pretty much bullshitters.

 

support, if you're a grown man/woman and need a guide on how to make money irl, you will fail at life ijs. ban the sale of irl guides for people's future.. lol.

 

support, its normally stuff thats shady or involves surveys or is common knowledge

 

people can buy guides to make irl money making but they are wasting money.
the only person making money is the person selling the guide

 

Absolutely not, while some guides are plagiarized, there are still many that are legitimate.

 

i agree as most of them are saturated methods, i mean who sells a way to make money?

 

There is a difference between writing an essay and writing a guide to sell. An essay is a writing on a specific topic which usually is attempting to prove a theory about X that includes the book. This is your own writing and you are using the book. The only reasonable form of plagarism is Spoofing and even then it only really applies to music, creative writing and movies.

And yes rehashing the same guide (writing it in your own words but not crediting the free guide) is plagiarism. Now its fairly straight forward to copy and pastw some sentences from a guide into Google and see if it hits anything, but its significantly more difficult to throw an idea into there and get a hit. By selling something that you simply rewrote you are stealing intellectual property unless it was put into the common domain, but legally this is nearly impossible to do.

Selling someones opinion on a guide under the name "Make $20 dollars a day/5m rsgp" is not selling an opinion on a guide, this is attempting to sell a guide you NEVER created. Yes there also is a problem selling a complete copy of a guide and that is that for one you are violating the copyright laws associated with that guide (which again can lead back to Sythe himself) and for two you stole the intellectual property of a guy.

Lets assume you wrote a guide on flipping burgers, and you sell some of those copies. Then you follow an email link from one of your purchases and you see the guide for sale here for cheaper than you are a offering it and its some guy who just reworded/paraphrased your guide. He has stolen from you and you can sue him. (You can also sue Sythe if he fails to listen to a DCMA you submit)

So why risk the legal trouble for a significantly small fraction of this website (face it less than 0.01% of Sythe users are in the market for a RL money making guide)?

 

Bump.

 

I've made $500 off of an IRL guide which I purchased though it took a bunch of work. I think that users just need to practice safe trading habits and only look into the extremely rare verified guide which is sold. We;re quite strict.

 

No support.

This proposal is ridiculous.

Noam if you're so convinced that all the IRL money making guides are bs, then I'll give you a copy of mine free of charge if you promise to review it.

 

Complete Support.

I purchased a few times guides seeing as they were verified. I had no doubt it couldn't do what it said it could but then once I had tried the guide for myself, I realized it was nothing like it said. It was the complete opposite in fact. It did get the same result at the end but with so much more work than stated. The guides lied me through buying it. It was because of the minimal amount of work given the amount received that I purchased it. If I knew what it was gonna be, I would've not purchased it and to make it all even worse, it was "verified" by a Mod. I felt like the Mod failed me.

 

Only guides that are in the Verified Guide Sales section are actually officially verified. Individually, moderators cannot verify guides.

 

Whenever you enter the E-Book section, you enter at your own discretion.

If you buy a chocolate bar at a store and it tastes like shit, you don't try and shut down the company that made it, you just don't buy it again.

Some people need to stop pushing their agenda.

 

Okay, this is just silly. He isn't trying to push any sort of agenda. He is suggesting something that can prevent a lot of customers from getting screwed over by guides that can easily be found with a simple google and guides that are just pure crap. If we can protect consumers as a community then that is a good thing. If I buy a candy bar and it tastes terrible then I can write a complaint and most companies have a satisfaction guaranteed policy. If a guide sucks I can request my money back, but a good amount of the time people won't give it back.