Ban IRL Money-Making guides

I've suggested it before, but make verification mandatory. That or banning the sales all together is the only solution to the many flaws in the system.

 

That in itself is probably the best money making guide lol.

I agree, rl guides are almost always ripped/a joke

 

Shhh.... I was going to add a few words and sell it for lots of money in the guide section. Now you just ruined it. :noworry:

 

Mandatory verification of guides won't happen unfortunately because of Sythe's views on freely trading and such.

But yes, most IRL guides are a joke. I wouldn't buy any non-verified guide. And this should be stressed.

 

^ this referring to my suggestion of doing more to promote verified guides over non-verified ones?!

 

Kind of. I think that it should be stressed to exercise extreme caution when purchasing non-verified guides.

 

Either we remove Real-life money making guides or beef up the verification process. Meaning before guides are made for public sales, they need to be approved and verified.

 

Building on that: Remember my old guide thread that was in my old sig?
It was a guide that explained good guide writing practices - and where to sell guides.
Easy $40, as immoral as it was.

 

Firstly, lol.

and what is the problem with this? the point of these guides are that they give you specific, understandable information about a method or technique on how to make X amount of money in X amount of hours, its been tailored for other members of sythe, placed in a PDF, generally with links inside the PDF provided to help a long with this guide. Everything is there for you, yet you complain because the method of the guide is similar to ones on google.. you can only google it because you know the guide, the guide did its job, it provided you information that you never knew and since you're buying guides on such A thing I could only assume that you'd never actually google those kind of ideas to find a guide.

It provides a service of information that you'd personally never know and find without it being sold in a bundle, at least they have spent a good while compiling such a guide, which is a lot different to completely ripped guide.

Guides that are similar to guides that could be found on google with a complex search should not and do not matter, Guides that are still clearly word to word the same, like always, should be punished.

also, about GTDarkPunisher, originally, he leaked the wikipedia article about the guide, THAT ISNT A GUIDE, ITS A DESCRIPTION, Its like me saying that I'd make a guide on how to SEO efficiently and then he links to the Wikipedia article on SEO. The person had wrote a guide about as niche way of making money, which frankly not many people would have thought about doing, and then leaked it.

If he does it again, He should be permanently banned from guides.

 

So what you're saying is that rephrasing a guide that I could find, usually better but more importantly, for free on the internet isn't wrong? That's a joke and is completely unethical. It isn't like I am delving into the bowels of the internet to find these guides. See below for more details.

The thing is that it doesn't take a complex search. Copy and paste a line or two from there it is usually in the first 5 - 7 links. Then there are the many SEO sites that have the guides there for free. Warrior Forums and many other similar internet marketing forums have a huge section of nothing but free guides on monetizing.

I am not sure what you're talking about because I went to the link that was in his sig and it was a forum that told you exactly what to do when you're article flipping. Anyone who is any familiar with the internet marketing forums can go through their huge guide sections and find more and better guides.

http://www.warriorforum.com/forum/
http://www.internetmarketingforums.net/
http://www.ewealth.com/

All of these have a lot of guides, and the last one even has niche marketing stuff. These guides aren't difficult to find.


If the case is that I can just go find free guides on the internet, change a few words, and re-sell them - then you guys are looking at the new guide section mogul.

 

I agree with x339 in the fact that there is always the possibility of some very nice and useful guides coming up. I'd rather support that all irl guides are required to be verified before sold.

 

I think Karl has a very valid point. It's easy to say "wow most of his stuff is so similar to THIS guide over here" after you read a guide, but really if you didn't read that guide you would have never known the other guide existed. Adding onto what Karl said, it's a way for that method of making money to be known. If one person in the entire world wrote ONE guide for a specific way of making money, would it be as easy to access as a bunch of people attempting to make their own versions of this method? No I don't think so.

Even if the other person's is free and this one isn't. Does being free imply you would've stumbled across it if you didn't buy his guide? Not necessarily.

Taking something from someone else and building off of it (or making small tweaks even) is what humanity has done all throughout time LOL. We take something else and build off of it. It's the way it is and should not be condemned because it seems immoral. If you find it immoral though, by all means boycott it, but one person's opinion should not condemn it for the rest.

Just my two cents!

 

That's the other problem. A lot of these guides sometimes can't be verified or people don't want to verify them because of the requirements and time involved.

Guides like flipping would require the verifys to invest time and money. Guides like writing articles for websites requires verifies to be fucked to be creative and invest time into writing.

I just think it is far too much of a hassle for such little pay off. The odds of someone having a rl guide that can earn you decent money from a unique method that they are willing to release is extremely low. The odds of that guide being sold on sythe are even lower.

 

There is a difference between progress, which would be like humanoids taking basic stone tool and adding some sort of wooden handle (an improvement), and taking something someone else has laid out and reselling it for yourself. You're arguing that taking someone else's work and putting it in your own words is progress when, in fact, it is simple regurgitation of information. If the guide takes a method and gives it a unique twist that divides the effort and multiplies the outcome and is unique from all of the free guides then that is fine, if the method is sufficiently unique in which they use the original idea. If someone says 'Here is how you do it' and provides a couple of links that isn't sufficiently unique. Most of the free guides provide those too.

tl;dr - If the guide gives a sufficiently unique twist/improvement on the original method then that is acceptable. Adding two or three links to someone else's guide doesn't give it a unique twist.

 

I've got to say I'm on Nero's side. If we can't be extremely selective I would support not allowing IRL guides.

 

99% if not 100% of the irl online money making guides here (non rs related) are stolen methods from sites like blackhatworld, digitalpoint, warriorforum, ect. I am sure they are rewritten... but free/stolen methods none the less. Either 95%+ free or under $5 else where.

 

I disagree, if you are selling the guide as a niche way to make money even though most of the information on the guide, bar a formatting (not difficult to do), and maybe addition of some links, you are implying to the purchaser that this is a method that isn't very well known and implies that they can find some money in this corner.

When they find out that this "niche" is already in the public domain for free they have been ripped off. This is essentially like trying to sell someone a Picasso painting, only for them to find out its a copy after you have made off with the money.

How about someone taking video, adding a new title screen then calling it their own? No the video is not theirs because they added a title screen and if they tried to sell it they would be sued most likely. How is that any different in this case?

 

Also, please note that a large portion of these guides don't work at all.

 

I'd support this.

 

Support, Such a wastefull section.