Soul Rich & King of Stakes - Multiple violations / scams

Thread name : Soul Rich & King of Stakes - Scamming bettors by hiding facts about an incident with a level 90 magic account. Manipulating giveaway odds and deliberately changing VIP bonus amounts. Unavailable provably fair verification for some Discord games.


Sythe Profiles :

Soul Rich Soul Rich (Deal)


1. The owners of King of Stakes attempted to hide an incident with a staking account for over 4 months. When it came to light due to Vader's report, they attempted to hide part of the incident due to "lack of evidence", even though they were fully [informed](https://i.gyazo.com/cc71dc7dc6e6f28d3d67cbc92f7c5469.png) about the situation. The incident was due to incompetence by Ninja's office workers who used a level 90 magic account for RS3 stakes for both calling (house side) and hosting (bettor's side). The thing that makes this a scam is due to the aftermath of it where the owners tried to hide the scam by not issuing refunds for bettor's and outright lying by saying only the house was affected because the account was only used for calling on [sythe](King of stakes - Resolved) and on [King of Stakes Discord](https://i.gyazo.com/d046bd94161bcdb8f8e3021dd88b4739.jpg). As they mention themselves, they heavily fined Ninja and collected the money that was lost for the house, however refunds to bettors for unfair fights were never issued. I don't know the exact amounts that were bet on the level 90 magic account but looking at [statistics](https://i.gyazo.com/6fa8f9db413afea4acf94368f9ce9b29.jpg) from that month we could do a simple math : 58.142T / 744 (total hours in 31 days) * 63 (the very minimum hours provided by Ninja himself) / 4 (average hosts open on RS3 at any given time) = 1.23T RS3 in potential bets that should have been refunded to bettors. The reason why I didn't report this sooner is because I didn't have enough evidence to provide that the account was also used for staking, as I was afraid that just the [ticket](https://koaly-afk.github.io/Ticket/) would not be enough. However last night I was going over routine checks of streams and came across one of the [clips](kosluigi - gap) missed in the past with one stake where the account was used for hosting with the level 90 magic account. Should the clip be deleted, I have a recording made as well.


2. As of late, they have more frequently played with odds manipulation for mystery boxes and jackpots of which these odds are not being disclosed to people. The owners often set odds so low that they are near impossible to win. This causes them to periodically change the odds to something very high which theoretically means they could choose when to give away the prizes, and even potentially try to pick timings for when to give to people whom they want to win. From the screenshots we might even see that if someone manages to win at those huge odds they increase it even higher so they could 100% pick the winners. Jackpots are influenced less, but as we can see both types of giveaways have been edited ~ 100 times. In this server alone.

[April 2nd](https://i.gyazo.com/674743a135337663adb5813d4ef1772d.jpg)

[March 23rd Increased due to lucky win on lower odds](https://i.gyazo.com/eeee2845553fd105fd939bcc136980ec.jpg)

[March 18 & 20](https://i.gyazo.com/ecd4d5d2a33b997485764423e58987ec.jpg)

[March 7](https://i.gyazo.com/55ec7571d406e63753c804d2617258a5.jpg)

[March 3 & 5](https://i.gyazo.com/94e939b4ccd1b5405e48fe9c74dcba92.jpg)

[February 14](https://i.gyazo.com/07f852083541b5259b7089309614aa3d.jpg)

[February 6](https://i.gyazo.com/aa09eeba83a5beaa75c3926679277016.jpg)

[Total Mystery Boxes edits](https://i.gyazo.com/a6f4d17ac5306121cfb647aa190ff3a5.jpg)

[Total Jackpot Giveaway edits](https://i.gyazo.com/c124d65b7005aacef16ae3617faa2c36.jpg)


3. Adjusting VIP bonus amounts as they deem necessary. Providing in their Discord information that VIP level matters for your bonus, while the formula for the VIP bonus had nothing to do with VIP tiers.

[Evidence #1](https://i.gyazo.com/1838dd4565f6df7bf5e23ff77bf8857b.png)

[Evidence #2](https://i.gyazo.com/f05ff234183e57087502f3b75857ee34.png)

[Evidence #3](https://i.gyazo.com/f9d6d89055ee63a178f6d5fa404b2e7f.png)

[Evidence #4](https://i.gyazo.com/f1184a71901a6c82a315c5998128d68f.png)

[Evidence #5](https://i.gyazo.com/6fa95d6732bd466517db1ca2c3c742e1.png)

[Evidence #6 - Monthly bonus information](https://i.gyazo.com/2ffdd285fbe79432bf0b886b698b869e.png)

[Evidence #7 - VIP bonus formula](https://i.gyazo.com/9d9cb84b91bbaa20a776b7beb7560899.png)


4. King of Stakes has a separate Discord called DGC where they host Discord games. As you can see in evidence below, they announce that all the games are verifiable, however there is no command to verify games such as : Hi-lo or flowers.

[Evidence #1](https://i.gyazo.com/54ed52b707ae247d554f1e7650b04344.png)

[Evidence #2](https://i.gyazo.com/d586f264d0ffb9b50516925818d9c800.png)


Closing statement :


I am sure Sythe's staff will ask why I am reporting all of this so late after the dates when these issues happened. First of all I believe that reporting these issues individually would have never changed anything, they would have been easily fought off and there would be no results. Second, I didn't have all the required evidence for the staking issue to provide a definite answer to whether the level 90 magic account was indeed used for hosting. My main goal of this report is to shine light on everyday issues in King of Stakes to the community, as a lot of other things in King of Stakes does not align with my values and understanding of how such place should be ran including but not limited to: lack of transparency, unannounced changes, lack of responsibility from some staff members and owners, and scammy and shady practices. As I have been in King of Stakes for 8 years, 4 of them in Manager position and over 2 years in the staff team I tried time and time again to point out these issues, however little to no action was ever taken, and things have instead just been getting worse, thus forcing my hand to leave King Of Stakes permanently and make this report and announcement to the community because I don't see it changing any time soon, or ever. As some of the staff members and community members know, I left Elite Ranks close to 8 years ago because of similar reasons, however I was unable to make a report against them, as joining King of Stakes required leaving Elite Ranks with a good standing.

 

Hello!

We will be responding to this report properly soon. Sythe Mods have already been contacted. Our ticket system was taken down by @Koaly himself, as he controlled it, on his exit, nothing to do with us. We are going to get a new one up. Please stop spamming the report and taking things out of context, with an already out-of-context report. Everything is running fine, nothing is affected, cash in-out has not changed.

As already mentioned in-server: imgur.com

As mentioned in the pic, much of what is stated has either already been dealt with, taken extremely out of context and is extremely misleading. For example, us lowering the odds of a GIVEAWAY - yes, giveaway, because its been going on for a long time and nobody has hit it yet, so somebody wins, yet this is being labelled as "odds manipulation", just to show you how crazy this report is. The way it is presented is aimed to distort the full story of pretty much everything. Nevertheless, we will work with sythe mods to resolve this matter.

Thank you for understanding,

KOS

 

Again, manipulation and trying to obstruct the truth. I didn't take the ticket tool down. I did contact ticket tool support to try and remove the backups and panels because everything related to the ticket tool was from hard work that only I put into it and I am not leaving my work behind. However I was told that it wasn't possible unless I was the owner of the server. Not only that, but because I left the server I didn't have the means to take it down anyway. The fact is, it was working when I left, so anything that happened afterwards isn't my doing. If you would have paid more attention when I was trying to teach you how the system works, you could probably have fixed it.

As for the things being dealt with, I guess covering up the truth of using the account for hosting and not issuing refunds is how you deal with things, in such case yes, it is dealt with, and it is a scam.

I don't know how more misleading you can be with the fact that for 2 straight months there was one mystery giveaway won without you having to force a win by altering the odds to be 1/10. What makes it worse is that right after someone won, you increased the odds to be even higher than before. If barely anyone can win a giveaway without you allowing them to win it, it is clear manipulation. My 8 screenshots show exactly that.

Multiple times today you have already tried to lie about stuff on your own Discord. (Sorry for screenshots not meeting the requirements of Sythe. I am no longer in the server and so can only provide screenshots of what people have sent me)

Stating 95% of time bonuses increased - https://i.gyazo.com/bc8b79f510401560b75a24cb417f3a79.png, but from other screenshots you can see that bonuses were edited 27 times by Deal & less than 50 times by Castle (which includes other messages by them) and the majority of them being edited down rather than up, it's odd how you say it's 95%.

I mean just straight up saying, again, that the account was used for calling, even when given evidence... that's a straight up lie and a pathological one. https://i.gyazo.com/2701f71c9c815330af08dd3badd19ca7.png

 

We apologise again for the delayed response. It seems this whole thing is an orchestrated, well thought through plan by KOALY and 2 ex-developers in KOS to attempt to ruin our reputation and create their own gambling server whilst this drama is unfolding, and attempting to take our bettors. As this report was posted, 20 hours later 2 developers left discord & they took our staking-related discord bots we had (which they were getting paid to develop for years, sums to 10s of thousands of $). 5 minutes later, the 2 devs and Koaly are owners of a gambling discord, and tactically are using this as a means to grow their own discord.

Google Doc with all information relating to this report: *Disclaimer* Your email may be visible if someone clicks on the link and is signed in to google!
Requested to add a disclaimer by BlackBasses just incase.

REPORT

 

Instead of creating alt accounts on Sythe to pretend to be a bettor, you could at least have made it a different username.

The real deadnoob calling you out for pretending to be him:
imgur.com

Nevertheless, please don't spam this thread.
EDIT: Seems like user was banned, tyvm.

 

I want to start off with the fact that I wasn't aware of any plans other members of King of Stakes were making. Throughout the day I received 3 potential invitations to join other discords, and I picked the one where I knew the people already. It's a chance to build something new. However none of this is relevant to my report as it purely covers the issues within King of Stakes, and I would like to stick to it.


Responding to the fact that they are stating that I am trying to make them look bad, I would like to provide some interesting screenshots that happened in the KoS Discord for the full day after my leave trying to destroy my reputation and paint me as a crazy, insane person that shouldn't be trusted. In fact, I'll provide even more screenshots of me raising that issue before with one of the owners, that same staff member used the same “crazy, tired, burned out person” accusations before directed at me.Castle (one of the owners) and my chats about Reaper and Reaper pushing the agenda in the KoS that I am mentally ill:


Chat 1:

https://i.gyazo.com/ce154d73ae7c7061fb5775d15f14046a.png

https://i.gyazo.com/25a1e76b9f4d77083dd1d7a6e206d4c5.png

https://i.gyazo.com/00a560bc18cdc6638d6d3671d508679c.png

https://i.gyazo.com/d751aade74d21b1ad49e5fcefd5ff845.png

https://i.gyazo.com/f8c2c4cb2fe5ebc7e68706cc28d7bdc2.png



Chat 2:

https://i.gyazo.com/806fac248116403a9379e942bf053f2b.png

https://i.gyazo.com/d258959f16e4a67450626da56a83a316.png

https://i.gyazo.com/40b497c6bfd586005fee3310093ee9b9.png


12th of May, Reaper in all chats in KoS:


https://i.gyazo.com/1476428ea5c08d6ca31f36db19704242.png

https://i.gyazo.com/846a7647c24275de8ecfc185853620fd.png

https://i.gyazo.com/552c3ce57f99ef11839457c70a200415.pnghttps://i.gyazo.com/1aa5fb7f48eac23d7779237d0b511851.pnghttps://i.gyazo.com/5167d18e552c1943cdae1997b3905cf4.png

https://i.gyazo.com/babfd4e6ff2b38080d614ae3337d8f07.png

You also stated in a previous reply that I turned the Ticket Tool bot off. This screenshot proves that you asked to have the bot kicked, and that you lied in the first reply.

Evidence: https://i.gyazo.com/3ccdb384f4bef5bd483eb069a521a298.png


I would also like to point out that the screenshots that you provided feels even more taken out of context and can be extremely misleading.


Let's go back to the Actual report:1. Level 90 AccountI will repeat myself. I agree that usage of the level 90 account was due to terrible incompetence of Ninja's office and wasn't a scam. What made it a scam were the steps you took to resolve the issue. The refund policy for offline streams in KoS has been a rocky road. It was consistently pushed by more than one staff member to be 100% refund to bettors if the host lost the stake and their stream was offline. It was then promptly changed back to have no refunds if bettors didn't see that there was an issue. From the start you chose the bad route for handling the stream cases which was “If it wasn't seen by bettors there is no need for a refund”, and in addition your decision was that you needed to hide it and for Ninja’s team to delete the twitch VODs. Then when this all came to light by Vader's report, you chose to lie about the account not being used for hosting and kept on doing that up until this last response, in which you still state that the issue was resolved. However the fact that bettors were not refunded states that it in fact, wasn’t resolved. Just because it happened in the past, or that it involved a somewhat small amount of people doesnt change the fact that you practically scammed them by lying, then going about saying that since it’s a small amount it’s fine.

Reimplementing stream procedure where hosts don't refund if a stream is not on, and bettors didn't see it :
Evidence #1 - Removal of refunds if bettors didn't see : https://i.gyazo.com/bc74b31adb66e18ab3b0df4b23a92228.png
Evidence #2 - second to last ticket where it was refunded, and castle already asking if anyone saw, after which soon the policy was removed : https://koaly-afk.github.io/Ticket-4/
Evidence #3 - Last ticket of refunds when stream was off : https://koaly-afk.github.io/Ticket-2/
Evidence #4 - First ticket without refund policy unless seen by bettors : https://koaly-afk.github.io/Ticket-5/

You guys stating it wasn’t used for staking:
Evidence #1 - Initially : https://i.gyazo.com/d046bd94161bcdb8f8e3021dd88b4739.jpg
Evidence #2 - On 12th of May: https://i.gyazo.com/2701f71c9c815330af08dd3badd19ca7.png

Castle admitting in private with Ruptured on the 12th of May that the account was used for hosting:
Evidence: https://i.gyazo.com/245acc81120424a96dada7dd2b024b16.png

This was Castle’s statement at the end of the case, showing measures that should be taken against Ninja’s team (fines, ICS refund, and stream nuking), in a group chat that I wasn't a part of and just now get to see, which states that I wasn't fully aware of the outcome of the case until Vader's Sythe report hit and I then finally got to find out that bettors were not refunded and the owners stating that account wasn’t used for hosting. We can also see the bare minimum of total refunds for bettors in this case, based on the days we have provided by Ninja.


https://i.gyazo.com/f9f76cd7e1fe9cb40e42756426e54e17.png


The initial ticket with the issue which will provide full data (including before) and not just parts of it screenshotted by Deal.
Evidence #1 : https://koaly-afk.github.io/Ticket/

2. Manipulation of giveaway odds. Correct, you increased the odds to win. However from my already provided evidence it can be seen that ONLY one win happens in 2 months without you increasing the odds. Which means you basically control when and potentially who wins the giveaway. So saying that the only bad thing is when you decrease the odds to win is false when the vast majority of the wins in the last at least 2 months happened when you allowed it to happen. Hype behind winning the giveaway is completely irrelevant here due to the fact that you staged when the giveaway was being won.

3. Adjusting VIP bonus amounts. I never stated you didn't increase the amounts, I also saw bonuses being increased and decreased in a span of a few days. Again you state that VIP bonuses were being perfected every month and edits were made. So if that is the case, and the whole formula was edited, why make extra edits by the end of the month, or if you manually checked the amounts, why were everyone's bonuses not edited, instead of just certain people? Cropping the few bonuses that you increased doesn’t change the fact that editing bonuses after they are given for that month for just specific people is the right thing to do. I would still like to add to the point that as it was mentioned in the description of VIP bonus, the formula did not actually include majority of the aspects that they mention, which means that people who went for higher VIP tiers (to which actual requirements of the size and quantity of stakes done was never disclosed) did it for no reason as it didn't change anything.


In addition to that I would like to add to the statement that the admin of King of Stakes admitted in their Discord raising VIP requirements on the go when bettor got close: https://i.gyazo.com/669d06de241e4f3f8e9491e98a1c620d.png


4. Discord games verification. Okay, that is a bit odd on how the flowers should be checked, and I didnt see the tutorial for it on DGC, so I can admit that maybe that's how it works, and flowers are verifiable. However you state that “hi-lo” verification was temporarily disabled due to issues. First of all, if you can't verify the game it shouldn't be offered at all. Second, you said you disabled it temporarily. The last time the DGC server ban happened was almost 3 years ago, which would mean your temporary solutions and not reposting stuff has taken almost 3 years and counting to fix which is complete incompetence. And finally your message states that Hi-Lo is verifiable, so that message should have been at least changed to say that it wasn't. And again the same as the first point, if it's a small % of people who potentially got scammed, it doesn't make it irrelevant.So to finish it off :


In my opinion, so far King of Stakes’ replies did not provide anything that would contradict anything made on this report. Most of the stuff in the reply just dances around other situations and accusations of trying to make them look bad and me being misleading, while since my leave they have continued to lie about the situation and tried to make me look crazy and unreliable with “cognitive decline”. It's all dancing around the subject without actually providing anything else than the underlying message “as long as it impacts a minority of people it's completely fine”.


And finally one more chat message from one of the owners to make sure to check (and potentially delete) anything contradicting in their chats. So going forward I can't trust anything provided by them since it could be edited or parts of the messages deleted.
Evidence: https://i.gyazo.com/2b7aab16c23d90368df72773a011f47f.png

I also copied their provided response in the document, and took screenshots of it in case it would be edited to something else.
Screenshots of the Report :
https://i.gyazo.com/b808b2347a88ac6f03dfd3e46381799a.png
https://i.gyazo.com/998d3d0d9ce9366a46e800c2da18c175.png
https://i.gyazo.com/f296329a769a9376dcb023e78be4f81f.png
https://i.gyazo.com/6a30d221272f7ae07851704bcacfccbd.png
https://i.gyazo.com/47ff56f338802b00f592978de81aa66a.png