Ethical Egoism and other thoughts on life.

So, I was thinking the other day about how maybe no matter what a person did and how wrong they seemed, the fact that they believed they were benefiting the world would be enough to make it Ethically Correct. Take Hitler, I DISAGREE COMPLETELY with his logic and the torture and killing of millions of innocent people, but due to the fact that he thought he was doing good for the World is enough to make me agree with the fact that he did. This is called Ethical Egoism. Which I do in fact agree with; I can have my personal opinion, Hitler's an asshole, but simply by him trying to better the good of the Human Race, I can say he wasn't a bad man. He just handled what he thought the wrong way.

Also I'm sure millions of people have thought this already, this is something I also believe to an extent, but Solipsism, the belief that you are the only existent being in the Universe and everybody else is just your imagination, maybe from being driven insane from solitude, maybe because you've been in a coma for years, who knows?


Alas, Christianity, although I am an Atheist, I agree completely with Religion and Religious beliefs, there has never been a society that didn't accept a higher power because higher powers give us order and responsibility, I love the ideals of Religion, I just can't seem to bring myself to agree, never have and probably never will. I hate fellow Atheists' whom just bag on religion 24/7 though. I guess this thread was just a really long hIghDEA, but I thought I'd share. :laugh:

 

Solipsism is no less of an argument than the existence of god. One who believes in this sort of idea should be outcast no more than one who believes in god. You imply that if we are a figment of his imagination then he is debating himself, thus making him crazy. But how crazy is it really? millions of people believe in god, who very well may not exist (at least in the form they believe). This god creates rules (ten commandments, etc..). "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife". Countless christians blindly submit to this command, some dont, and some are aware of the rule yet argue it amongst god and their conscience (which is ultimately themselves) because they wish to satisfy their desire to "covet their neighbors wife". Therefore, Christians with this struggle are arguing with themselves as god does not have an earthly, tangible representative, thus putting them in the same boat of "craziness" as a Solipsist.

Then again your argument may still remain valid as it is pointless to debate one who believes in said god as it would go nowhere. So maybe the answer is that they are both crazy?

 

hehe, please don't misunderstand me. We are on the same side, my friend. simply trying to present another view to the discussion.

Well it is somewhat holding two opposing views....some truly believe it is against god's rules (which in reality, is their own), while they also may truly believe they want to cheat on their wife, thus kind of presenting two opposing views within the same person.

again, I do not disagree with you. I am simply responding in this manner to aid in further progression of this intelligent discussion and perhaps help others to expand their minds and think outside the box.

cheers m8.

 

None of it was supposed to be an argument Just a share of random thoughts, which your input is exactly what I wanted to take my thoughts a bit further, think about what you guys had to say and come back. Just wanted something to think about.

 

^ consistent logical arguement.

 

i agree with you man,