[denied] Remove clear advertisements on dnt users

Dbuffed · Jul 5, 2023

Referring to my new violation thread in some specifics and I know this user isn't and wont be the only one.

Possibly trying to market with DNT

I think it's just enough to have the common sense to know people will still check things out when they see them regardless of a DNT or not. With this being said things being openly advertised still encourages people to click them for whatever purpose and ultimately in many cases get scammed.

I get DNT can still use the forums, and that should be enough. There is no reason they should still openly be able to advertise their discord servers etc.

Profile feed clearly states to "join his discord" and you can see the custom user title saying to click too, easy access to bypass DNT.

Again the same with signature spots, another easy manipulated way to get a bypass to market manipulate further.

Pirate · Jul 8, 2023

ive gone ahead and removed the above users info, but iirc only admins are supposed to mess with the privilege's of the user profile, but I think only global+'s have access to the information. but i don't see anything wrong with removing the information

Dbuffed · Jul 8, 2023

Pirate said: ↑

ive gone ahead and removed the above users info, but iirc only admins are supposed to mess with the privilege's of the user profile, but I think only global+'s have access to the information. but i don't see anything wrong with removing the information
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I am due to make another suggestion thread, but the same would apply for @Chicks and @Gladiator as that's essentially dnt trading too

MyPvM · Jul 8, 2023

Support, I don't know why that's not a thing yet

Sunny · Jul 8, 2023

xtra work but i think its good idea
supprt

owned · Jul 8, 2023

Sunny said: ↑

xtra work but i think its good idea
supprt
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When someone is DNT'd based upon a RaS decision, couldn't a global remove the advertisement at time of decision? Going back and removing info from any currently DNT users might be cumbersome, but moving forward it seems fairly straightforward unless I'm off base.

Primal · Jul 9, 2023

on topic of this
is @Pirate not technically advertising @Chicks currently, a DNT user?

BlackBlasses · Jul 10, 2023

If you report a DNT user advertising his business on his profile - UT, signature, About You, link in any field on the user's profile, profile posts and possibly other creative forms of advertising, staff will take the following into account:

Age of the post/advertisement

If the ad was posted/added to the profile prior to receiving DNT, then I personally would not consider it an 'attempting to trade whilist DNT' and would simply remove the ad.

If the ad was posted/added to the profile after receiving DNT - IIRC DNT users cannot edit their signature, avatar and UT, but can still be creative elsewhere - then I would personally consider this to be 'attempting to trade whilist DNT'.

I could see staff removing such ads when closing a report.
However, the thing is that we also differentiate between scamming related offenses and other cases, such as persistent bad trading practices, in which case we usually let the ads expire - unless they are banned for scamming the ad stays up until the end of the period - in which case it seems odd to remove a DNT user's ads, but let other people advertise for him in their UTs and signature spaces.

Thoughts?

Primal · Jul 10, 2023

BlackBlasses said: ↑

If you report a DNT user advertising his business on his profile - UT, signature, About You, link in any field on the user's profile, profile posts and possibly other creative forms of advertising, staff will take the following into account:

Age of the post/advertisement

If the ad was posted/added to the profile prior to receiving DNT, then I personally would not consider it an 'attempting to trade whilist DNT' and would simply remove the ad.

If the ad was posted/added to the profile after receiving DNT - IIRC DNT users cannot edit their signature, avatar and UT, but can still be creative elsewhere - then I would personally consider this to be 'attempting to trade whilist DNT'.

I could see staff removing such ads when closing a report.
However, the thing is that we also differentiate between scamming related offenses and other cases, such as persistent bad trading practices, in which case we usually let the ads expire - unless they are banned for scamming the ad stays up until the end of the period - in which case it seems odd to remove a DNT user's ads, but let other people advertise for him in their UTs and signature spaces.

Thoughts?
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i would honestly say, make it simple.
draw the line at the DNT

DNT = DO NOT TRADE = NO ADDS

Primal · Jul 10, 2023

1 step further:

DNT = market threads "hidden"

In some less active sections they remain visible for a long time, leading "off site" 95% of the time

Yoshiki · Jul 12, 2023

Primal said: ↑

1 step further:

DNT = market threads "hidden"

In some less active sections they remain visible for a long time, leading "off site" 95% of the time
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Removing market threads would make it more difficult for people to catch ban evaders. Removing the posts of banned/DNT'd users is also on the Do Not Suggest list.

Primal · Jul 13, 2023

Yoshiki said: ↑

Removing market threads would make it more difficult for people to catch ban evaders. Removing the posts of banned/DNT'd users is also on the Do Not Suggest list.
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What if "hidden" was "moved to the last page" ?
So in stead of sitting on the front page (eventually behind all active bumps) they'd get pushed to the "last page"
Directly behind all Long dormant threads

Just taking it out of plain sight or at least cleaning anything that leads off platform off of them

Yoshiki · Jul 15, 2023

Jason said: ↑

There has been a discussion with staff about having the DNT usergroup's signature disabled, but there wasn't an easy way to do that, it would have to be custom coded. Something like this is very low priority if it even was on the to do list. If you see a DNT user with a signature or user title that could potentially lead to scams, feel free to report the user's profile and a moderator may remove the advertisement if they feel its warranted.
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