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  1. Unread #1 - Mar 20, 2023 at 11:39 AM
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    Scammer's profile link: @Cryalics
    Amount scammed: $650
    Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: Cryalics#6434 - 1017050055494074368
    Proof that it's their Discord: [​IMG]

    How they scammed:
    Begin January 2023, Cryalics made a proposal, which went like this: if you can sell $5000 of server wallet for me within the 2 weeks, you will get $1000.
    In the first week, I had sold $4000 worth of server wallet for him, so I had another week to sell $1000 worth of server wallet. But in the middle of the 2 weeks, Cryalics sold the server to a new owner so he broke our contract. To this I said of "okay I have now sold $4000 of server wallet, which is 4/5ths of the contract so I would like to get 4/5ths of the payment as well"

    this would equate to $800 of which he only gave $150 "because he felt bad"

    In his eyes he doesn't want to pay anything more because I didn't fulfill the contract him while I didn't get the chance to fulfill it because he sold between 2 weeks in the server.

    Other relevant trade screenshots: I dont have much proof cause every text was on another discord account, which got banned. but i got him confirming about the deal.

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    Hello

    I stand by what I had said, I do not feel that Wolfie is obligated to any money at all.

    At the time the deal was made I owned Elite Ranks.Although While this deal was going on I had sold the server making Wolfie unable to complete the deal which voids the deal entirely.

    We have never made a deal in which I would owe him a portion of the $1k. It is true that he sold 4k in one week, but nothing is certain and I don’t know if he could’ve met the requirements of the deal we had in place.

    Lastly iAndroid17 an Admin in Elite Ranks favored my opinion. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  5. Unread #3 - Mar 20, 2023 at 3:46 PM
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    Hello,

    I will be handling this report.

    Please give me some time to review everything in full, including $450 discussion with RSCrown.

    Best regards,
    BlackBlasses
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Mar 20, 2023 at 5:02 PM
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    Thank you for dealing with this, please deal with it asap if possible. I don’t like being accused for being a “scammer” by someone who has lured in the past.
    Best, Cryalics
     
  9. Unread #5 - Mar 20, 2023 at 5:05 PM
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    Lastly adding one last thing

    5wap is the current Owner of EliteRanks
    In the message attached below “Him” is referring to Elite Wolfie.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Hi @BlackBlasses, not 100% sure if it's relevant to this discussion, but because I was a part of the quoted message that you're reviewing, I just wanted to mention that I did refund the $450 to @RS Crown for a completely different reason than what was mentioned before, but nonetheless, it was refunded.

    Just wanted to mention that. Hopefully this all gets resolved soon but from my perspective I have issued a refund to the current server owner.
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Mar 23, 2023 at 9:41 AM
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    Hello,


    Thank you for your patience.

    The premise that you making Wolfie unable to complete the deal voids the deal entirely is false.
    If Wolfie was unable to complete the deal due to your actions, then the situation was beyond his control and not due to his fault.

    Again, the situation was caused by your actions.

    If you need an analogy; Let's say I order 1-99 strength training on my mule account from you, and I get the account RWT banned, when you are 80% done. You would want to be paid for the work done.

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    @Elite Wolfie @Cryalics who's the current owner of Elite Ranks?

    Best regards,
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  15. Unread #8 - Mar 23, 2023 at 9:43 AM
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    @RS Crown is the current owner.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Mar 23, 2023 at 10:09 AM
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    That complicates the situation.

    @Elite Wolfie please provide as much proof of the deal you had with the previous owner of Elite Ranks, as possible.

    The thing is that, if you two really had this agreement, then the current owner of Elite Ranks would most likely be obligated to compensate you, even though he would be most likely able to report the previous owner in return and demand this money from him (in a linear* fashion).
    As you can imagine, if the previous owner does not care about his sythe account, this would be an easy way for you two to fraudulently "pump" the current owner for the money.
    I'm not saying this is the case here, but we have to prove in this report, that the deal existed and you two didn't make it up once the company was sold to @RS Crown.

    Thank you for your understanding, Wolfie. If there were more people aware of this agreement, then you may ask them to reply to this report.

    Best regards,
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  19. Unread #10 - Mar 23, 2023 at 10:14 AM
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    I’m not sure why @RS Crown has to pay cryalics his debt. I sold server wallet for cryalics (directly into his own crypto wallet, this money was not use for the server or anything)

    I’m pretty sure cryalics is the only person in this situation that should pay the remaining $650.

    Almost all hosts of elite ranks knew about this deal and I’ll also tell them to confirm it here in this thread.

    - Wolfie
     
  21. Unread #11 - Mar 23, 2023 at 10:31 AM
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    To elaborate; if Cryalics, the previous owner of ER, made a deal on behalf of the company, then the company would owe you the money, not him personally.

    I could make a deal with Cryalics to say that there's an unpaid debt of $20,000 USD in an attempt to obtain money from the company.

    Again, this is just to explain why I need to see the evidence of your agreement *with the previous owner of ER. We have to be correct towards ER.

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    @Elite Wolfie maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Can you please explain me the nature of your agreement?
    Maybe I don't understand what you mean by this.

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  23. Unread #12 - Mar 23, 2023 at 10:32 AM
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    As stated above, my discord account got banned, so all information about the deal is not available anymore. But isn’t a confirmation from cryalics himself enough to proof that this deal was made before the server got sold?

    Again, cryalics never mentioned this deal when he sold the server to @RS Crown so he shouldn’t be the one paying me since he was unaware of it.

    I also asked some ranks that knew about the deal to reply on this thread.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Mar 23, 2023 at 12:15 PM
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    The deal was not on behalf of the company, it was a deal just to finance his own pocket. Because @RS Crown didn’t receive any of the $4000 that I sold. Cryalics asked me to transfer it to him and a couple hours later he sold the server.

    Means cryalics sold the server for x money and the $4000 wasn’t reduced from it. (I know this because 5wap/ rs crown wasn’t even aware of the deal I had with cryalics)

    Brings me to the confusion why rs crown should be in charge of the remaining $650, while this deal was with cryalics himself.. just to put the profit into his own pocket and so he could sell the server with an insanely high server wallet + take the sale profits from the wallet.

    (he bought the server for with 200b ish server wallet (means total amount spread over all bettors) and cryalics sold the server with over 800b in server wallet)

    - Wolfie
     
  27. Unread #14 - Mar 23, 2023 at 12:45 PM
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    Hi I'm one of the newer admins in Elite Ranks.

    Hope I'm replying to this thread correctly as I've never personally used sythe, excuse me if I'm not but I was made aware of this whole thread recently too. Screenshots of me are already provided at the beginning discussing their contract and sharing my own opinion.

    I have been asked to confirm that I knew about this deal which I did a few months ago just after Cryalics had sold back the server back to RScrown and it was only recently brought up again as one of the parties felt unjust about how the contract was handled.

    Regards,
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    Hello I am Ace007 an ex Admin from Elite Ranks, I stepped down last week.
    Wolfie dm'd me asking me to respond in this scythe report.
    I worked as admin under Cryalics and 5wap. I found out about the deal a few days after the deal was made between Cryalics and Wolfie, from what I understood about the agreement, they had specific requirements that needed to be hit to fulfil the agreement they had. Those conditions weren't met, therefore Cryalics shouldn't be held responsible for paying anything to Wolfie.[​IMG]
    Thanks,
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    P.S. this is also my first time using scythe so I apologize if I am using this incorrectly.
     
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    @iAndroid17 @Ace007 Thank you. Can you please DM me on Discord for the sake of verification?

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  33. Unread #17 - Mar 23, 2023 at 5:42 PM
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    Hello,

    Ace007 - https://i.imgur.com/9cTNvt9.mp4 - 1060326875462910146
    iAndroid17 - https://i.imgur.com/PLlyDvG.mp4 - 994333194017050805
    Cryalics - https://i.imgur.com/rdAZlRe.mp4 - 1017050055494074368

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    What Pirate said in this post is correct - $450 discussion with RSCrown, but there isn't enough evidence for me to demand a compensation for @Elite Wolfie's work from the current owner of Elite Ranks, @RS Crown, due to possible scam attempt from Elite Wolfie and Cryalics, by staging the whole situation (similar to forging promissory notes).
    While I don't think it is the case here @Elite Wolfie, I cannot safely rule it out and you simply didn't present enough evidence to support the existence of the contract before @RS Crown bought the company back.

    However, I will not super complicate this situation.
    @Cryalics, the previous owner of Elite Ranks, acknowledged that he made this contract.
    @Cryalics cannot void existing contracts by selling the company.

    Ruling: The original agreement was $1,000 USD for $5,000 USD worth of sales. While it is true that @Elite Wolfie reached only $4,000 USD worth of sales, he wasn't able to continue due to @Cryalics' actions.
    @Cryalics please pay @Elite Wolfie 80% of the agreed upon compensation of $1,000 USD. $150 USD has already been paid, meaning that $650 USD remains.

    Best regards,
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  35. Unread #18 - Mar 24, 2023 at 2:09 AM
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    Hello @BlackBlasses

    Thank you for taking the time to clarify this case, again my intention was never to scam. I just needed a second opinion and thank you for providing that.

    0xa61169f24ee2417c8c36bece74bb9e8ab9a1d015
    Is the Eth Address that @Elite Wolfie Has given me, $650 has been sent in full.

    Thank you
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    Etherscan Transaction ID

    Ethereum Transaction Hash (Txhash) Details | Etherscan
     
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    Thank you @BlackBlasses for your time.

    I can confirm cryalics has paid the remaining $650.

    Regards
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    Fantastic, thank you for quickly resolving this.

    I will be closing this report.

    Best regards,
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