Make being a member of CDT/PR a pre-requisite for applying to be a moderator

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This would obviously be for future applications rather than for the current staff rota.

-Encourages user interaction
-Reduces number of waste-of-time applications for moderator
-Gives back to the community
-Gives people some sense of being in a team with roles/responsibilities before being moderator
-Helps weed out those that are not fit for a team roll with responsibilities
-Increases number of applicants to CDT/PR (are they understaffed? idk)
-Don't see much of a downside rather than possibly reducing pool of moderator applicants

Let us know what you think

 

Personally I like the idea but realistically I don't think it's necessary. I'm not sure exactly how staff positions work but AFAIK each staff member starts out as a sectional mod for one or more areas which they're active in which they patrol. This being the case, don't see how being on the CDT would help them with their skillset unless they get promoted to a higher position

 

I like the idea in principle if it would work as we both would want it to.

The problem with having a pre requisite is that sometimes people like to gatekeep and no matter if you are the perfect member for the team, gatekeeping will always be there whether you like it or not. I don't see it being a problem at the moment but having being on CDT to be a prereq for mod wouldn't work how I would want it to.

Good suggestion, but no support.

 

Like the idea but i feel you would lose some potentional very benefitting guys/staffs due to this suggestion.

No support.

 

how beneficial can they be if they arent interested in helping the community out in ways other than just wanting to play god on report a scammer posts. mods will have responsibilities that they dont all enjoy doing, its a red flag if you dont want to be mod because of something like this imo

 

being a sectional mod isnt an intern status, you really do just jump in the deep end as far as im aware

 

You mean the CDT will gatekeep positions on people they dont want to become mod? only a fraction of people being/have once been cdt then go onto being staff. if cdt doesnt want someone, its safe to say staff team wouldnt either. further, if the cdt is gatekeeping positions, that should be addressed appropriately, no matter if its a pre req for staff or not.

 

Being a CDT member already helps your chances when applying for mod as it shows initiative in wanting to help the community grow and sustain itself. Making it a requirement just slows the process. It's not like we are getting applications left and right either.

 

yeah good point

 

Definitely support that you must be a PR member before applying for a staff position

 

In all seriousness, this actually isn't a bad suggestion.

If someone wanted to become a mod, they'd likely put in high quality effort (or at least try to) while they were part of the CDT team. This would be refreshing as many in the past have joined CDT to do the bare minimum.

However, I do agree with Devil that joining CDT prior to a staff application already provides an advantage (so long as the individual was a good CDT team member).. so it seems somewhat redundant. I don't like the idea of forcing people onto CDT. They'd be joining for all the wrong reasons, IMO.

Overall, not a bad suggestion. I can see benefits, as well as pros/cons either way.

 

is there really that much free labor out there still that you can add additional barriers toward working for free

 

most ex and current mods for the past few years have been on cdt anyway so I don't see it necessary to be a requirement, no support.

 

I see where you're coming from in the sense that you believe people who are apart of these teams are showing more initiative and willingness to be a part of something bigger on the platform which typically is true, but at the same time I can't say that forcing this on future applicants would do any good because not everyone wants to be a part of these teams in order to become staff so it'd make everything seem more artificial rather than people genuinely trying to do some positive for the community in their free time (pretty much summing up what Yoshi/Sypherz said). Personally I feel like myself and others who weren't CDT that got staff didn't have much interest in that and earned it through other ways that we preferred (actively posting in help sections on the forums, making post reports, assisting others in Discord/Sythe with whatever situation they need help or advice in, actively engaging in healthy discussion in random sections of the forums or Discord (sports, music, media, etc.), and so forth (which I understand can be done while in CDT but still). Plus some of the best staff members of my time imo were parts of both sides of the spectrum (with CDT having people like Charlotte/Gen/Pendulum/Techie, etc. and non CDT with people like Champ/Yoshiki/Video/Gladiator, etc.). That's just a few on each side off the top of my head, but of-course there are many others I missed that have done great in their respective staff roles with and without using CDT as a stepping stone to get to that position.

In short I can't support this suggestion for the reasons mentioned above, but I totally respect and understand where you're coming from like I said initially.

 

Voluntary involvement with the community in all its counterparts has much more worth than a "voluntold" position.

i dont think i could support this suggestion.

 

This basically.

Suggestion creates a perverse incentive to join CDT.

A second point is that it's also not a logical 'gateway', because CDT and moderating only overlap in that they deal with community activity, but that's also really it. Moderating is much broader in the sense that part of the job is also the enforcement of rules, etc.

 

No support for the reasons already provided. Also hi @Tony

 

I wouldn't personally support it, because as far as i'm aware at least in terms of staff it's a free rank that you have different rulings and obvious powers that come with

Cool suggestion, but I cant imagine it would be right to make someone do X-stuff and jump through X-hoops more just to help the community for free