Junior and Senior years of school optional.

While its not a smart decision to drop out, decisions will have their consequences. If they want the freedom to drop out, they should be granted it, but they're probably not going to get very far in life without graduating.

 

I'm not saying that. I'm just trying to say employers probably wont take you seriously without a highschool diploma or even usually without some college experience. It would be extremely difficult to make a living off of little education, although it is possible. Or you could just go back when you want. Believe me, I know the school system is horrid, but the worlds fucked up and sometimes you gotta go with it.

 

I voted no. The only years that really count (at least in my school) are years 9-12. If you drop out after grade 10, that's only 2 years of education and that's not really that much.

 

I completely agree with you. Thats what it should be like. If the world worked that way I'd much prefer it.

 

Why must everything be a conspiracy with you Sythe? I was taught several Histories, several Sciences, Maths, Literature, and so on. And throughout all those years we were not taught to "worship the state," in fact we learned that the state, effectively, sucks at ruling over the country. It is an inefficient system with inefficient leaders.

Now, in a way you are correct and i agree that you do not get a decent job until you are 25-30.

As for that "mindless dribble," how else would you go about learning to theories of relativity or reading up on classical literature. Now, i know you are going to chastise me for saying this, but school is necessary because it opens children up to the ideas of the adult world. Yes, i know, the adults make stupid decisions and so on and so forth, but so do uneducated kids. Now, this is going off topic as to Senior/Junior year so i'll get back on track.

Sythe, you took my previous post and read it in the wrong way or i may have worded it incorrectly. I was not, correction, DID not say the adult world was in anyway smart or a good part of society. What i was saying is that a kid leaving high school early should have some sort of plan so that he will succeed. What is the problem with making sure a child will lead as much a successful life as they can?

Finally, i did not say that kids cannot think for themselves. They CAN, they have the capacity to, but SOMETIMES, their reasoning can be detrimental to themselves.

"Not to put too fine a point on it but this is a sign of abuse, that you would say this. You might want to look at your own history before bringing opinions about what others should be forced to do to the discussion."

Where is it in your power to determine my past? That is personally offensive and comments like that, I'm sorry, do not belong here. This is about the topic and not what my past contained.

And no, it is not about my history that IS ABOUT YOUR OPINION. You think school is bad, i think it is good, what i was trying to say you were interpreting in your own way. I was saying that you were (or are) a leech on your parent's money correct? Now, if you drop out of school and have no job, and (potentially) still rely on your parents, you became even less productive. What i was TRYING to say was that when you are in school, your are a leech that will potentially pay them back in one way or another. And no, i am not saying those that drop out of school have less of a chance i am saying those that do go to school typically make their parents happy.

So there it is, criticize me at will. And please, do not try to state a fact about my life when you have no idea who i am.

 

First, yes i was taught to pledge to my flag... in 1st grade. It is unnecessary as we have developed from the soft, squishy mold that is childhood. And yes, i was taught the constitution because it was part of our history. What is wrong with learning our history.

Second, i am not taking into account specific individuals who defy the statistic. I am discussing the generality of American youths.

And Finally, where did i say i would shoot them? I never did, stop putting words into my mouth. I said that they should have a plan for their future and nothing more, i never said there were any consequences for not doing so.

 

I honestly only pledged to the flag because everyone else did. I don't care for it much now. It should be choice. Once you're older, I feel that people do it as an act of respect. Nobody will shoot you if you don't pledge.

 

It is choice to pledge the flag. First amendment...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette

Don't you learn about this type of stuff in school?

Sythe if I could I wish I could leave school and learn what I want to learn, but our country turns away from people without a piece of paper that says I did what the government forced me to.

 

Exactly, you can't get a decent job without a degree from high school or college. I think it's kind of funny that you can't join the army/marines with a GED.

 

I agree with this. There is no definite age when maturity is apparent in, an individual. Some achieve it in middle school while others achieve maturity in adulthood.

Although, I do believe 11th and 12th grade should be enforced upon a student. The mentality of a teenager in high school is that school equals BAD and the quicker one leaves, the better. The hasty decision of most teenagers would be asinine and most would opt to leaving school. Yes all actions have consequences, but the government is trying to limit those actions by not giving it as an option.

Many disregard the benefits of school. While I do agree most of the information I am learning now will no longer be useful in my future years, I can see how my maturity has increased throughout the years. High school is a beautiful source for maturity and growth.

..Can't wait till Sythe totally rips apart my argument

 

I believe that a SENIOR year should be optional during understandable conditions.

For example. WWII. Many boys who were already 18 and still in high school left to join the army/navy/marine corps to fight in the war. Vietnam. Some boys who were 18 and still in highschool were drafted to serve.

If the current state of national security depends on them then I believe its an okay idea. They would miss a year of highschool and would receive some sort of compensation for it either free of charge through the service they entered or tagged on a college level course later in life.

 

Were it not for school, children would not know how to read. Were it not for education, the public would be a field; a field ripe for the harvest of dictatorship.