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  1. Unread #1 - May 7, 2022 at 12:19 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    Was recommended to repost this but more defined.

    Suggestion:
    Account sellers must display their maximum price in thread description.

    TLDR; QOL for Buyers, no longer having to join/wait/delete endless Discords to find a price for accounts advertised on Sythe.
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    There’s realistically two categories of account sellers; highranks (trusted) and noob (untrusted).
    Noobs have no rep and therefore highly risky.
    Highranks have autobumpers, big donations, 100+ vouches, GFX, miniranks, Discords.
    *Depending on account value, no real difference between them in terms of risk.

    Picture these scenarios, where the market consists of only 10 sellers.

    1. Account X, sold by 10 highranks, no prices listed.
    Buyer must join 1-10 Discords to get ANY price.

    2. Account X, sold by 9 highranks, 1 noob, no prices listed.
    Buyer must join 1-10 Discords to get ANY price.
    **Realistically, Noob has to list price to get any notice from Buyers and its always less than a highranks due to their lack of rep.

    3. Account X, sold by 9 highranks with unlisted price, and 1 noob with max. price listed.
    Buyer see’s the noob price and knows, that’s the cheapest and most riskiest.
    Buyer must join 1-9 Discords to get any REAL price from highranks.

    My suggestion
    4. Account X, sold by everyone, with max. price listed.
    Buyer works their way up from cheapest-expensive using the merit earned/bought by highranks versus the risk of Noob sellers and their cheap prices.
    Buyer can choose most suitable Discords.

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    In every scenario, the rational Buyer uses the Discord servers. However, with my suggestion they don’t have to waste time adding EVERYONE as they have a max. price as a guide.

    Still a free-market. Sellers can negotiate lower prices if high stock, high liquidity.
    Assuming all prices unlisted and every Buyer compared every account with every seller by contacting on Discord; expensive sellers would be undercut unknowingly.
    With prices public, new Buyers have a better understanding of prices and more information to rely on. Making the community safer, e.g. Everyone is selling X for $100 but noob is selling for $20. Clearer scam if scam.

    Sellers will have to edit their account sale thread to include the price in the First post. Account prices don’t fluctuate too rapidly due to external forces like GP sales and with a max. price reflecting the price of a seller with the temperament of low liquidity and low stock, any change externally doesn't negatively impact the max. price drastically.

    It moderates itself as some sellers may abuse by listing bait (low) prices on Sythe then switch to real (high) price on Discord. Buyer can move on to next Seller like before, however easier now knowing where to go and not just pot-luck amongst adding highranks Discord servers.

    Account prices range across the market. Some selling for $50 and others for $90.
    It's a substantial reduction in time for most buyers/sellers, less time-wasters and less Discords.

    ToS won’t be deteriorate as a result of this suggestion because the Noobs are risky regardless of ToS and highranks have solid ToS/reputation.

    Helps noobs compete with rich highranks on Sythe through Pricing.

    Please list your arguments or approvals below.

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  3. Unread #2 - May 7, 2022 at 1:08 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I think its beneficial for a seller to be listing their prices on their threads to attract customers and to avoid time wasters.
    I dont see why there needs to be a rule implemented on this, as it doesnt seem to be an issue to me.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - May 7, 2022 at 4:49 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I am indifferent because I already did this when I had my thread running. I kind of agree with Cherub but I can see both arguments.
     
  7. Unread #4 - May 7, 2022 at 5:53 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    As much as it's not a big issue, for those who are selling accounts in mass/differences (such as if some have 1 stat different etc they need to upload a new pic/price) could be a shitshow

    no support
     
  9. Unread #5 - May 8, 2022 at 6:45 AM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    This suggestion is basically saying you want to fuck the guys that sell 100+ accs a month, so it'd be easier for you to sell 2 instead of 1
     
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    It's also beneficial to the site (more page views) to have people click on threads vs. just skimming through the first page or two of a forum. I don't see this suggestion ever happening for that reason.
     
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    TLDR; QOL for Buyers, no longer having to join/wait/delete endless Discords to find a price for accounts advertised on Sythe.
     
  15. Unread #8 - May 9, 2022 at 6:09 AM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I never joined a single discord to buy an account, and I've bought/sold accounts among many top sellers. If they want to link to their discord server and get less sales let them be, that's your win. Posting price does help sales, but it also adds other too annoying activities to your daily life, which eventually hurts traffic and everyone else in the process
     
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  17. Unread #9 - May 9, 2022 at 7:11 AM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    What sort of activities are added and what's annoying about them? I don't have an autobumper.
     
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  19. Unread #10 - May 9, 2022 at 7:19 AM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    Daily topic updates,
    reforming the topic for 90% of the sellers,
    Wasting mods time on stupid violations?
     
  21. Unread #11 - May 9, 2022 at 7:38 AM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    Support
     
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    This is important. This margin of freedom creates a lot of benefits for almost all actors that outweigh the pro of potentially saving certain buyer's time.
     
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  25. Unread #13 - May 9, 2022 at 5:09 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    Such as?
     
  27. Unread #14 - May 11, 2022 at 8:05 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I don't think this would necessarily have an effect unless it's in the title, i'd actually argue that more people would shop around more and look at thread, it's more just saving annoyance from people rather than anything else, as people hop from thread to thread looking at the account, contact seller find out account way out of price range, with price being displayed on the thread, I'd say people would flick through more threads to make an informed decision, it's rather a subjective argument either way but I don't think this valid point unless we had some sort of data to prove it, which would be impossible without testing both metrics, could also argue people get frustrated with contact 100 seller to get price leading them to not buy at all possible account they could purchase
     
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  29. Unread #15 - May 11, 2022 at 8:13 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    Same view as before - I don’t see this being necessary so much to import a rule over it.

    It may benefit some sellers who list price (like myself) versus not listing the price but I feel it’s minimal if anything. The buyer would still spend time (in a perfect world) researching the seller, looking through vouches, maybe even PMing prior buyers to see how it went, etc. so there’s still time, effort, and a nuisance (in a way) that the buyer is still going through.
     
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    The current method MAY benefit price listers (buyers see price, don't bother adding highranks discords).

    It's a substantial reduction in time for most buyers/sellers, less time-wasters and less Discords.
     
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  33. Unread #17 - May 12, 2022 at 11:32 PM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I think this can go both ways so I feel like this is fine as is atm.

    A customer asking for prices starts interaction between a customer and seller and potentially increases a chance at a sale.
    A customer seeing prices listed might be more inclined to start a conversation since they already know exactly what they are buying.

    Both ways can be considered positive depending on the situation and person.
     
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I don't really see this as something worth adding an additional rule for.
     
  37. Unread #19 - May 17, 2022 at 12:53 AM
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I completely agree with you, it depends what side of the fence you're on; buyer or seller.
    Seller wants as many leads as possible.
    Buyer wants the best price possible.

    However, "A customer asking for prices starts interaction between a customer and seller and potentially increases a chance at a sale" is very time-consuming and could often result in no sale as the buyer and seller are at opposite ends of the market price range. buying for $50, selling for $100.

    I wouldn't say sellers are misleading buyers by not stating prices, however it's not efficient at all for the buyer or seller in terms of time involved.
    If I was a seller and was at opposite ends of the market price with the buyer, I believe it could give me some wiggle room to perhaps lower my price on the spot to satisfy the buyer since I have them already contacting me asking for a price. However that opportunity is awarded to the seller by default because there is no rule implemented at the cost of the buyer who has invested their time in adding/waiting/removing discords.
    For instance, there's 20 sellers in the 'staker' category bumping threads daily and if you're looking to buy a main, there's a lot more.

    I can see it from both sides, however fundamentally I believe the buyer being able to narrow down their potential sellers list in saturated markets far outweighs any positives that the current model gifts highrank sellers by 'misleading' the customer for a lead/potential sale.
     
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    [denied] Account sellers must list max. price in thread.

    I think it is a useless implementation that moderators would waste their time on having to scan each thread. If people want to post the maximum price of the account, go for it, and if they do not, that is okay too. I do not see a reason to make it a rule.
     
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