UN to produce bullion coins as world currency

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UN to produce bullion coins as world currency
  1. Unread #1 - Dec 25, 2009 at 10:34 AM
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    Here's an interesting article.

    History demonstrates that all paper currencies collapse. The US dollar, pound, euro and other paper currencies that circulate today are no exception.

    My hypothesis is that the UN is trying to head off the collapse to retain control of the banking industry. If they do not then it will fall back into the private sector, which they do not want.



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    There would be major issues in doing this. Having a non paper currency would be valuable but making the switch would be immense.

    Yes that would help
     
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    This was a very interesting ride. I'm sorry if it's already there, but excuse me because I am ripped outta my mind, is this going to be placed into effect for sure, or is it only talk?
     
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    I don't see why having non-paper currency would be the hard part.
    We lived off bartering and precious metal coins for much longer than paper.

    And the switch would take time, but it doesn't seem impossible.
    Look at the Euro, it is thriving.
     
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    The part "Any licensee, public or private, can produce such bullion coinage under contract" sounds very interesting. This means that the coins will have a value related to the metal it is made from, instead of the fictional value of paper currency, since the production will be less regulated.

    (Note that "less regulated" is not "not regulated")
     
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    Won't it be hard to substitute these new coins for all the paper currency? I imagine it would be extremely difficult to get masses to cooperate with a switch this big.
     
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    Will they be produced in all languages? Asians and Europeans won't understand English...
     
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    Arabic numerals are used almost everywhere in the world.
     
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    Wouldn't it cost quite a bit to gather the metals and such and create all of the currency?
     
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    Very interesting, I myself have though about a global currency. I mean it should make things easier because you can use that currency no matter where you go instead of dealing with exchange rates etc.

    Also if this comes out people can say bye bye to FOREX
     
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    Wow, i really hate bringing around coins no matter what the value. i rather they have colorful dollars/notes in USA that would be very awesome. when do you think the UN will accept this change if i may ask?
     
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    It's called a gold rush.

    Forex is just a subset of the commodities exchange / futures market.

    Well banking was originally a type of warehousing for coins. You deposit your coins with the bank, and they issue a bearers receipt for those coins. That's where paper money comes from.

    It isn't driving the change, the market is. They just want to stay in control of the banking industry which is why they are trying to re-enter this market early.

    I expect they'll launch the same year the US dollar collapses. (Probably 2010/2011.)
     
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    It seems all reliable sources of this information have been removed *possible misinformation alert.

    Either way, the fact that they're using coins instead of paper should come at little surprise. After all, what kind of authority does the UN really have to produce paper currency? None really...I'm skeptical that they'd make any currency at all.
     
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    I guess this is why i can't watch TV now with out a gold agency wanting to by my family heirlooms.

    Surely there going to have to play around with what it will be worth and have some worth a fair bit?
     
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    History has in no way demonstrated the collapse of all paper currencies, in reality the number which have is far outweighed by the number which haven't.

    In any case, gold is only worth anything on the same arbitrary scale as currency, inherently it holds no value.
     
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    If something happens repeatedly, predictably and consistently over a long period of time it can be said to be a law of nature. There are mathematical reasons why paper currencies (and the governments who issue them) must inevitably fail. But from a purely phenomenological standpoint the fact is: all paper currencies have failed.

    Just because the period of failure is longer than your personal period of observation, it does not logically follow that there are ANY exceptions. There is no paper currency older than 1920 which still has any value. (Note that major currencies from pre-then that we still use were all specie.)

    Example:
    Law: All rocks fall to the ground.
    You: "This rock has been falling longer than I have been observing and has not yet hit the ground, therefore all rocks do not fall and hit the ground."


    Ugh, you're insane. Gold is a dream metal for all things electronic and medical. It's like copper, but better in every way. Its thermal and electrical conductivity are fantastic. It can be made into atomically thin sheets. It doesn't tarnish. It isn't brittle. It's non toxic. It's not reactive.

    10% of annual world gold production is used in the electronics industry.

    http://www.utilisegold.com/
     
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    Your post relies on a number of assumptions. First and foremost is the ridiculous notion that 'There is no paper currency older than 1920 which still has any value.' One example, and probably the most important, is the US dollar. Today it is essentially used as the benchmark for world currency, and while it has experienced extreme inflation and deflation, it has in no way collapsed, nor is it likely to in the near future. Infact, it is used as the de facto unit of currency in many third world nations where the currency is too unstable, because of it's stability and universality.

    In contrast, I could count with my fingers the number of paper currencies which collapsed during the 20th centuries, which is hardly a basis for an all encompassing law.

    While you are largely correct in this statement, not only is coltan far more plentiful and better in most areas, in this case it's uses are redundant.

    This is the same as saying paper money is useful because I can wipe myself with it, my point stands that all currency is inherently worth nothing in itself, only as an assumed unit of value.

    Besides, if the world's currency was turned into electrical circuits, we'd soon run out of currency!
     
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    As Plastic is beginning to become the norm, it is very difficult to think we would move back to working with coins/metals.. Coin currency is on the decline as the majority dislike having, carrying and/or using. Interesting article though..
     
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    It wasn't a paper currency before 1920.

    It is collapsing right now. There have been conferences between many of the largest nations in the world about dropping the US dollar as the world reserve currency.

    There are 9 right here:
    http://www.mint.com/blog/finance-core/hyperinflation-the-story-of-9-failed-currencies/

    Most countries have had a currency collapse or replacement in the last 100 years.

    Money is not a special thing. It is just a commodity like any other. It doesn't 'run out' because it's put to one use or another. Its price simply rises with respect to demand. The higher the price, the more incentive to go dig more out of the ground. The lower the price, the greater the supply, the more incentive there is to use it in place of inferior metals in industrial purposes.

    If tomorrow some super-massive deposit of gold was found and the price dropped to $1 per ounce and stayed there, then almost every electrical manufacturing process would adopt gold for its valuable industrial properties. The only reason they restrict their adoption now is because it is so expensive, because it is so rare.
     
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    There is no real difference between paper currency and coins made of non valuable metals, they are both accepted to be worth more than their actual value.

    There have been conferences on many things, and surely you of all people see it is a ridiculous statement for a conference to be some kind of evidence for a theory.

    With the possible exception of Germany, the countries illustrated there are by no means anywhere near the most affulent or influential in the world, this can hardly be used as a universal measure.

    Have a source on that?

    I think we're misunderstanding eachother here. What I intended to say was that a gold currency would have no inherent value because it can be used in electronics, in the same way that paper currency could be used in books, toilet paper or in newspapers.

    Currency is by definition only worth what it is accepted to be worth, it having a possible use would have little to no effect, unless the electronics companies were to become in, in essence, the reserve bank.
     
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