The epitome of dogma.

My msn convo with Fatih. It was very interesting, ended up with him blocking me.

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Joseph says:
hey
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Hey
Joseph says:
I'm Finally_Found_Freedom
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Hi.
Joseph says:
Hey.
Look man
Do you know when Islam showed its face in the world?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
What about it.
Joseph says:
Do you know when?
Aka, the century.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
What about it.
Joseph says:
I'm getting to the next point
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
There were jews and christians when Islam was born.
Joseph says:
Yes
do you know when though?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Muhammed was not neither.
Joseph says:
Do you know what century Islam came to being?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
was neither*
No.
Not from the top of my head.
Joseph says:
Man, you should really know if you're muslim
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
lol
Joseph says:
I'm not and I know
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Okay?
Good for you.
Joseph says:
Alright, it was the 7th century. My point is, do you see the similarities between the Torah(Old testament) and the Qur'an?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Let me tell you something.
The Bible
The Qur'an
The Torah
Joseph says:
Yes
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Muslims beileve that they are all revealed by the same god.
There are 2 other books.
5 Books total.
Over time the actual bible and actual torah have been changed by people.
That's why today you have 30 types of christians.
Joseph says:
No, you're making a detrimental mistake. There have been different interpretations; the actual book remains the same.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
No it doesn't.
Show me proof that it has.
Joseph says:
Actually, if you really knew a lot about Islam, you'd know there are over 100 sects of Islam.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
No there aren't.
Joseph says:
So it is more perverted.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Shia are not muslim.
Joseph says:
Really?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
There is only 1 Islam.
Joseph says:
That's your personal opinion, they are Muslim.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
No it's not my opinion.
Joseph says:
That is a dogmatic view and very ignorant.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
The prophet said you can't hate me or my family
They hate his son.
The hate his wife.
They*
Joseph says:
What do you mean?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
They beat them selves.
Hurting yourself is forbifdden by god in islam.
That's why suicide is a grade 1 sin.
You cant smoke, it hurts you.
Joseph says:
Yes, but have you heard of the concept of reformation?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Alcohol is forbidden, it hurts you.
Interest is forbidden, it hurts you.
Joseph says:
We're going past the topic; however, before I get off it and back onto what I wanted to say, I just want to let you know that there is a concept of reformation. The orthodox (meaning true religion) a lot of the time feel that reformers, or as they say, "blasphemers and heretics" are not technically part of that religion; still, they are.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
No they aren't.
If I started praying to the demon.
Killing people.
And did some christian things.
Joseph says:
And out of the over 100 sects, including the radical ones - aka, terrorists - many do not transgress your "requirements".
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Can I say I'm christian.
There is no such thing as sects.
I'll explain.
Shut up for a sec.
Number 1.
If the "sect" has a beilef that is a sin then they are no muslims.
By sin, I mean major sin.
There is a "sect" that beileve that some scholars or preists as you would call them
are special to god
And if you go to these people and ask them to to ask god to forgive you
god will forgive you because they asked
Now
When Muhammed was born
In arabia people beileved in God
They just used idols
They beileved that those idols can talk to god for them
and forgive them
And Muhammeds whole goal in life in Mecca was to stop this
Now these people today that beileve that thing with scholars
are the same as the people back then
Also
IN our relgion it's now allowed to associate anyone with god
God has no son
No Father
No Mother
He is alone.
There are no "special people"
Those people can call themselves muslims all they want
But in reality they aren't.
Suicide bombers aren't muslims either
Wanna know why?
In islam we beileve if on the day of judgement
we will be nudged for our deeds
if we have more bad then good we go to hell
vice versa
but if your muslim
and you have more bad then good
and you beileve in allah
and prayed to him
you will stay in hell until you get punished for those bad deeds
then you can go to heaven
Suice is a grade 1 sin.
God said
If you do suicide, you will stay in hell eternally.
Joseph says:
Alright, I get the gist of what you're saying.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
You could be
The besssst muslim
but if you suicde
hell forever
Not done
Please don't talk.
Joseph says:
Slight variations of interpretations create sects; that doesn't mean they're going against severe transgressions.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Yes they are.
Also
Lemme finish
Before you talk
Joseph says:
It says in the Qur'an to kill jews. It says that directly.
And christians.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
No it doesn't
Show me the proof.
Also let me finish
we will talk about that next
Joseph says:
And Muhammad DESPISED jews too, and of course christians.
K i'll get proof.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Muhammed married a jew you fucker.
And a christian.
In our religion we are allowed to marry the people of the book
i.e christians
and jews
if we were ordered to kill them
why would that be allowed
Joseph says:
Qur'an 2:191: And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.


ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Let me check it.
Joseph says:
And i'm sure he forcibly converted her.
Islam's bible is the most bloody and intolerant of any.
and the Islam religion in general.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
Have fun reading
Joseph says:
Is this muslim propoganda? or worth reading
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Read it.
He never forced her.
LOL
You know shit about islam.
Get your head out of your ass.
Joseph says:
No that
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
I have some advice.
Joseph says:
that's completely wrong
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
Go to paltalk.
Listen to me.
Joseph says:
It mentions defence, but also aggressive.
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
I'm a 14 year old.
Go to paypal.
paltalk*
and go to islam rooms
they have a room opened
islam talks
or something
at times
Joseph says:
Here's another
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
people that are wise will answer
Joseph says:
Qur'an 4:089: They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.


ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
Joseph says:
How's that?
ƒÃ£ŧíħ says:
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
v
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/f/terrorism_verse.htm
read it
You haven't even read it.
Bye.
Paltalk.com
Islam rooms.
Joseph said (8:04 PM):
I read it
it's garbage
Joseph says:
I read it

*BLOCKED ME*

 

So he hates christians?


Well he can go fuck himself and his $200 donation

 

Nah, I focussed on Judaism, first off, and also he clearly doesn't have anything against them. I started the conversation with the intent of proving to him that Judaism procreated islam; it went a bit off topic. Still, interesting read, try the whole thing.

 

hes a faggot lmao. I did the same thing to him. He blocked me too haha

 

tl;dr

 

I gave you a link at the end. Read it.

/talking to morons on msn

 

Faggot......

http://islam.about.com/od/terrorism/...rism_verse.htm = wrong

also, thought you left the spam forum.

 

stfu claw bogy your evil unicorns are no better

 

I read it, cock block. You're so wrong it's not even funny. Oh, and, Islam, as a religion and in terms of bible, is the most violent.

 

Do you have any idea how much the other religions have been edited?

 

Islam is one of the most dumbest religions.

 

Cool story.

 

Explode thread is explode.

 

You can only call me by my name, and its not claw...

And don't worry bout the unicorns, I tamed them.