Resolved

Scammer's profile link: Management
Explanation of the trade:
Amount scammed: $337.50
How they scammed:
Website launch has been delayed for ~ 2 months since the last payment made: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/445213e129c8f2a0cf8140c50e28a1a23ab003bcf2553a0c2635c12de4900338


Website was supposed to launch as soon as I get the API keys, by finishing and finalizing the last payment gateway which is Skrill, Management applied for Skrill and it got rejected on his first trial, then I asked him what happened, he said that he's going for another try, and they are taking time to reply him, and since then, everything has been on hold.
I understand merchants apply for API keys and their applications get rejected, once, twice and several times, eventually it might get approved or ignored for good for not matching some specific criteria or rules and regulations in the EU laws not complying with the business itself.

2 days ago as of 19th of January, I asked what happened with the applications that are being applied and I get plenty of answers, then we've came to some agreement that I get paid an amount of $250.00 out of $375.00 (the amount that I assumed Management owed me instead of $337.5) and the rest upon completion of what's left (note: nothing was paid, and all pay, followed by a modification of the amount to be given since the amount was wrong, so it became $212.5 then $125, then the mayhem came to happen, I was accused of trying to scam $37.5, then he opened a scam report against me (I believe in order to reduce the amount owed to me *compensation*), and that was it, I got blocked/muted on Sythe and Discord.

9 PM: Then later on, I was unblocked/unmuted, and he wants to cancel the agreement after that I had agreed, stating that I trying to be greedy, find the timestamps in the conversation below.

~ 11 PM - Current: Management is trying to cancel the agreement and revert it.

Usually lazy devs get paid and stop working on the project for lack of interest/motivation, I'm doing the inverse, I'm pushing the guy to get his API keys so we can move on and close the deal.

The website is live and in production mode: URL to be pm'ed since it's not launched yet.
Payment gateways that have been implemented as soon as I got the API keys:

1. Coinbase commerce (Doesn't require legal papers/KYC only) - Status: Working
2. Sofort (bank transfer) - Status: Working
3. Skrill - Status: Rejected - Pending (?)

Proof that it's their Discord: Screen capture - b58253167edcd5f2bc71ef4f02e27a17 - Gyazo
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: Management#5555 - 535245849224151045
Other relevant trade screenshots: [Redacted] (Contract available and can be sent to admins via e-mail, please contact me so I can send it to you)

TLDR: Applications for payment gateways are being delayed/rejected, and payments are being delayed as a result, got accused of trying to scam $37.5 out of $1350, canceled the payment and la vie en rose, we're not moving forward in the project.


Edit: I am still updating the thread (images on imgur).

Best regards
lebgh0st

 

Can I first point out that @Jason made no mention to any payments having to be issues to this user yesterday?

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I would also like to point out the following details.

This user was paid $1012.50 (which he has failed to mention in his report):
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/b883878834b4200529f7ee1f8080bba56f60e37c060b5d4225994f7d862fe421
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/445213e129c8f2a0cf8140c50e28a1a23ab003bcf2553a0c2635c12de4900338

$675 + $337.50 = $1012.50 total

This user is now requesting further payment. Please note, the final $337.50 was meant to be paid upon website completion. I told him, he is not owed any money.

I have provided the full documents of the contract he signed in a deleted post down below for any mods to view (since it contains private details). It clearly states he's owed $337.50 upon website completion.

 

I would also point out that I said the last payment was mentioned only, and if you have calculated the amount:

It is quite simple to make a conclusion, in arithmetics (x + y = z), let z the total amount, x amount paid, y amount owed/left.

x = ?
y = $337.50
z = $1350.00
x + $337.50 = $1350.00 -> x = $1350.00 - $337.50 = $1012.50
$1350.00 - $337.50 = $1012.50

I don't know where you got the rest of the $675 + $337.50 = $1012.50 total, I won't do like you and open a separate scam report.

And the site completion is being delayed because of you not putting additional effort in obtaining the API keys, you're the one who's supposed to run after me, not me being supposed to run after to get your website done.

 

I'd also like to point out that, if there is any monies owed, then the contract would have to be terminated since, me paying before the website is completed would automatically be a violation of contract.

Furthermore, I would just like to point out why NOT to work with this user.

I got all these screenshots yesterday JUST BECAUSE I was planning to file another report today.

The user is clearly one that baits users. He originally said to me that the full $1350 would be paid upon completion, then he changed to incremental payments because he stated he got into "financial difficulty", this should not be my problem?

Proof here (have a good laugh at these ones):









redacted due to personal information





















This user baits people into offering them such a good deal "you can pay after" and then starts getting you to try and pay him in increments because of his own personal issues.

 

The $337.50 was meant to be paid UPON WEBSITE COMPLETION, since the website wasn't complete, therefore the $337.50 is not owed.

Me not putting in additional effort? I don't live in a corrupt country where you can just pay people a few hundred dollars and they'll accept your application. Here you have to go through various compliance checks which takes weeks/months, that's not my fault. And you saying it's not your fault shouldn't mean that a payment is justified.

You never took into account how long it would take to get a payment method approved. That's not my problem, you should have factored that in from the very beginning.

 

Why are you changing subjects and getting into personal details, I didn't mention the harassment over discord, anyways, you're trying to cancel yesterday's agreement or even deduct the amount owed of the final payment, hold your horses and wait till a someone takes a look into the report, grab some pop corn or watch the news in my country, still better than arguing.

 

As we mentioned:

1. Skrill was to be added on the website, it got rejected.
2. No other payment gateways were to be added, the (?) means optional or maybe.
3. I have revoked your permissions to edit the google document sheet, since you are a mastermind in writing manipulative and conditional phrases.

 

Also, I would like to point out some additional evidence. In my previous report here, I stated that he tried to get me to give him $250 + $125 after, he claimed he was owed $375 (check previous report):

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Also, I then realized he tried to steal $37.50 off me, but Jason deemed it "not valid", however there was no mention of Lebgh0st being owed a single dollar on that report.

I offered him $212.50 + $125 after, which he still tried to negotiate:



When I was filing a Sythe report, he tried to get $212.50 (I wasn't online on Discord because I was filing a Sythe report):



Note that he accepted the $212.50 in the middle of me filing a Sythe report, he had the ability to accept the offer at the time however, he's no longer eligible for it. Whatever Sythe moderators deem fair I will happily pay however, there is still work that is left to do, and even if he is owed any amount, it should be subject to the work that is left to be done.

 

You have never mentioned that you were filing a Sythe report, you just went ballistic and filed a report, AFTER I had agreed to the offer, then you found a reason to cancel it, the timestamps are pretty clear.
Also in what context, you are saying that I attempted to scam $37.5, you do know that nothing was paid other than the $1012.50, trying to even take things personal rather than taking a business path, I am starting to have doubts whether your business is going to succeed with your behavior.
Even in the conversation it clearly states that you offered and I agreed.

Edit: Any mod/admin can view the timestamps, and I would be more than happy to screenshare my discord chat.

 

Nothing is being changed, as I stated multiple times, you begged for money, then realized you weren't getting any because you weren't entitled to it.

Skrill got rejected yes. Nowhere in the google documents does it say that (?) means optional. I interpreted the (?) as that you weren't sure what the additional payment methods are. You just said that the other payments were optional to cover your case. Skrill got rejected, and it was subject to be replaced with something else. Credit cards were to be added and that was the application I was waiting on.

As I mentioned, the $337.50 was meant to be paid upon website completion. It was made very clear, you however decided to be impatient and try to request it right away.

The $212.50 deal and $250 deal is no longer up for debate. Sythe moderators can handle this report. I will be waiting to see if Sythe moderators deem if you are owed any money.

 

That's because I'm not going to argue because you will consistently beg for money. Just because you got into personal problems, don't try and bring me into them:

 

A (?) means optional technically, I have no responsibility towards that, if Skrill got rejected, I have nothing to do with it, if you buy a ferrari or a supra or a boeing, I have nothing to do with it, if you make millions of the website, that's good for you, and better for me because I would have contributed in a successful project.
And since I wrote the project's architecture/proposal, I am the one who has to define everything and I have defined them.

Edit: I have a question, why you've never mentioned that you come faster than Usain Bolt and request a change/addition of a feature and expect me to finish it on spot?

 

If I made millions off a RuneScape Gold site you would hijack it and switch all the payment methods in your name so that you can profit off someone else's success.

You wanted the site DONE YOUR WAY, you didn't want to use shared hosting, you wanted to use Linux (probably because you knew I had little to no experience with it) so it would be easier for you to gain leverage and leak customer data so I would get fined under GDPR regulations.

Also, a question mark does not mean optional, in the original specification, it said some others. Credit card was always meant to be implemented + there was going to be a replacement for Skrill. Either way, I'm not sure what you're arguing here, irrespective of whether one payment method got declined or not, the $337.50 was payable upon website completion. The website isn't completed, and thus a payment is not due.

Finally "The question mark glyph is also often used in place of missing or unknown data". There was missing data, and so you can't use your question mark to get you out of this one. If you wanted to clarify that there were only 3 payment methods, you should have justified that at the beginning.

 

Invoices are generated and customers are redirected to each payment gateway's checkout page, as Webhooks are used to get notifications from each payment gateway, of course you know nothing, and of course you would do anything to accuse me of trying to steal the millions.
I'm not supposed to explain how the payment gateway works, I can explain at least some security concerns, why I use payment gateway checkout instead of self-hosted checkout for instance.
I said I didn't want to use shared hosting because it's a node web app, and ask any dev, they use multiple providers/hosts, mainly your previous dev hosted the app on Namecheap Webhost instead of using NGINX Webserver, and he used DigitalOcean just to serve the Laravel app, I saved you a couple of bucks, instead of thanking me, you just keep throwing words and accusing me.

 

I'd like to point out that I'm no longer sitting at home 24/7 flipping RuneScape Gold and DMing people like you for a reason.

You claimed "you shouldn't have to chase me up", and that's completely right. You never had to DM me on Discord saying "hey any update?", you could just wait for a response like any other reasonable person would. You chose to follow it up on your own agenda, that's not my problem. That's a "YOU" problem.

As I said previously, the credit card application was still in processing, and I spoke about potentially adding a full checkout (like 2checkout) for the site however, I mentioned this yesterday and 1 day isn't long enough to fill in an application even I even go down this route.

You can choose to sit in the Sythe Discord all day. The point is, my status is set on Do Not Disturb for a reason. It basically means I'm not available to have a chat.

 

You set up the server on an SSH key (where you have the main private key) basically allowing you to have full control over the server. Of course you would have the ability to modify any file you please? What are you trying to say here, you live in a country where your central bank went bankrupt and now you're doing anything to get a few extra dollars.

It's like a random Venezuelan saying to you that you can trust them with $5,000. You give them $5k and they're straight up dipping with that money (lmfao).

Anyway, I got my money back from the whole Edwin situation so I didn't lose anything. You went from agreeing to be paid at the end to now wanting increments because you didn't plan your financial circumstances well. That should not be my problem. You are trying to find a way to get any amount of money possible because your financial circumstances changed and I have no doubt that you would try and take customer details and payment information if you knew you could get yourself a decent chunk of money.

Also you were paid $1012.50 directly in Bitcoin. If you owe me any money there's no chance you'd be able to refund a penny.

Also: For you saying that me releasing information that your countries central bank went bankrupt is considered personal, it's not. You even linked me a public news article about it.

 

Also off topic, why did Sythe not implement the "person to use the most quotes" award? This user would win by far

 

If any moderator or higher has any questions relating to the website other than what I've published so far in order to make a more informed decision please add me on Management#5555 (535245849224151045).

Unless any more information is required from me I'll not be responding since I'm not wanting to flood this report with irrelevant comments.

 

@Mots @Jacky @RS Crown @Safe @kluch Did I ever scam anyone of you guys or messed with anyone's API keys or I run SSL certificates updates on a quarterly basis?

If you want to talk about a couple of grands, Mots is your guy, you're a guy who's accusing me of attempt to scam $37.5 to avoid paying some amount of money and you want me to trust you?

Jacky paid me some good amount for his website, and he didn't bother putting it up or run it, and I'm running after him, and you're accusing me of attempt to scam you $37.5?

 

I'm actually adding to this report now.

This user claimed I caused him harassment:



I'd like to state I clearly pointed out in the Sythe Discord that I did not publish the contract publicly because I did not want to reveal his real name (as his full name is mentioned in the contract):



I don't see how me saying that I respect someone's privacy is a threat.

Anyway I'm now filing for an anti-dispute of $1012.50 (which is the total sum of money that was paid).

I believe I am fully entitled to this refund as during the time of this dispute, this user has caused constant defamation to my business and as a result, I feel that I would no longer benefit from having this website regardless of whether I continued with the project or not (at this stage I will not be continuing with the project due to the fact that the website would not benefit me anymore).

The #Sythe Discord channel says as follows:



I would like to point out the multiple tags (5+) which I received which were not necessary due to UKF's actions:











Also it has gotten to the point where users are claiming I owe them money??





Edit: I'd also like to point out that I got a ban from the spam forum, but I'm fairly sure there's a rule there which says you cannot call people scammers in Sythe Discord (which should apply here).

I would love to see proof that I owe $500+ lol...

Anyway, I've already shown tonnes of screenshots where I've been defamed and at this point I feel that some kind of refund should be issued to be because of the fact that I would not be able to use this site even if it did get complete.

I'm also tagging in @Baod who had similar experiences with this user, and he will be posting his opinion on this retard.