Sythe has a really shitty community.

Phishing involves you tricking a user to log into a fake site, after which you then take the items off the account and attempt to "own" the account. Phishing is scamming and has no place here, which is why it isn't here.

Your statement seemed awfully biased. So really, you aren't stating the truth. If your account gets scammed, will you not recover it?

 

Good Luck with that.
I failed trying. got robbed too many times.

 

I do not scam myself, Nor phish myself.

I have just decided to set up a runescape forum with another mate, And for it to have a chance of working it has to offer something that other big sites don't offer, and something that the people would want. In this case, Phishing and Warez.

 

some people are just sad and are always going to be sad

 

Sythe will never have a sense of community.

 

Only because its too big to have a sense of community spirit, Not there fault, All large forums have that issue.

 

Good Day x9 (and to any moderator that might be reading this),

I have a new idea for sythe.org. Howabout you have spies, that spend most of their time searching for scammers and getting them banned. These "spies" would have all the main privelages of a global moderator, but the ability to set a perm ban (without having to email a team lead). These "Spies" wouldn't have a rank and would look like any other player. They would have access to the moderator center in the website. They would have special abilities to help them catch scammers, but no rank showing their status; just looking like any other player. I'm not going to pretend I wouldn't want to be one of these "spies"; but that's not the only reason I'm posting this. I have already spoke to you x9 about my current situation with a team of scammers I have been pretending to want to join. It looks like they lied about most of what they said and are just ammatures, though I still am looking for more information to get them banned. Why would I would be better at catching scammers on sythe.org? I am a very convincing person - I have the ability to act like a scammer and look very good at what I'm doing. I also have been an administrator and moderator on many forums and websites, the size, if not bigger than this. Why can you trust me to not scam? Like most of you know, "everybody has their price"; I do not have a price, I cannot be bought for any money. I was thinking awhile ago, what can I do in my life to make it more meaningful. I think this is my chance to help many online to not getting scammed. I don't care about having money in real life, or in runescape - for I am in need of neither. In last words I think I would be a great contribution to your website, but understand if you want to stick with the whole "People who ask to be moderator's will not become one" attitude. Just an idea, I have many more ideas if any moderator would like to contact me.

Sincerely,
Snowboard-Ninja

 

This would deffinately help get down the number of scammers, and its very possible

but to get members to put in so much work to sythe, and not even be recognised by other members as anything better than a member, makes it quite an unnatractive offer, but maybe some people would want to.

 

Yes, most members would just want this as a way to get trusted easily, or to feel important on a website so large. Unfortunatly this does not help a website at all. A few people like me, who just want to do it to help out the community, to feel good about themselves, and most of all to stop scammers, would be the choice members if this ever came in to progress. It would take alot of time on their behalf though.

 

So, you're saying, Sythe, that it is not counter-scamming, but scamming prevention?

Why is it my belief that if a member approaches a moderator with a bribe, the moderator accepting that bribe, but not delivering shows worse on his part than rejecting said bribe and banning the user?

You're justifying an act that cannot be justified. You are taking bribe money, banning the users who bribed, and accepting the money. Whether or not the user was going to use the account to scam, you have given permission to your staff to take that member's money, ban that member, and pretend like nothing ever happened.

A few things are wrong with your logic:

1. Taking a person's money and not delivering on an agreement is illegal, no matter what the agreement covers.
2. Giving the right to sell an account you own means that you give partial rights to the creator and operator of said account. You say they are not allowed to deliver the account, but not doing so holds them liable for scamming.
3. If any member is to approach a staff member, and offer them a sum of money to buy an account, that person is labeled as a scammer, their money is taken, and they are banned.

You cannot justify your actions in anyway shape or form. You have a responsibility as a webmaster to ensure that theft does not take place on the server. You do not condone theft of a member's money, as written in #3. To say that you can take money from the member offering to buy the account, but you cannot give them access to your account is illegal. Nor can you prove that the member who bought the account had any thought of breaking rules.

1 account per person. If that person buys another account, they are not allowed to login to the account they had before that, but that doesn't mean they cannot buy an account. And even if you have it in your agreement, then you shouldn't be allowing your staff members to take money from members in any way shape or form, unless tagged as a donation.



Try as you will, it is still theft.

 

^^What the F*** are you talking about.... (Yes i blinked out on purpose)...

That made no sense whatsoever..What "accounts" are you talking about? And if you read his post thoroughly(However you spell it) You would know that its basically a hidding global mod who spends his time looking for and banning scammers... Nothing about selling his acc and banning them..

 

i agree to this most of the sythe people are scammers.

 

He's not responding to my message, he's responding to the whole Sythe vs. PhailBoat issue.

 

Thanks Snowboard Ninja for a contribution to trying to help out

Also, to the people complaining about staff being allowed to scam...

Obviously, as stated several times by Sythe, if someone were attempt to buy an admin account (which would be ONLY used to exploiting the trust and scamming LOADS more), he's given them permission to 'punish' these scammers by taking their money. Yes, from an outside view, it IS scamming... But guess what, this is Sythes site. He can basically decide whatever the fuck he wants, and that's how it goes. If you don't like the idea of staff scamming, don't offer to buy their accounts


I've been thinking of a few ways in which we CAN eliminate most scammers.


I was wondering if Sythe or any other admin could post numbers of how many members sign up daily, and how many of them get banned for scamming instantly? Just curious to see the rates of how many people join to scam vs people here to play legit. Honestly, if it were up to me, I would probably make this a private members board.

Think of it, you can ban ALL you want but people will CONTINUE to use proxies, and absolutely NOTHING in the world will stop them from returning... Unless you completely prevent them. See, rather than catching and banning scammers, let's just prevent them ALTOGETHER! If you think about it, people who scam here are repeat offenders... You rarely get the good-guy-gone bad.

Here are some of my ideas, which I think are pretty good.

First off, we need to stop scammers from coming back, and an IP Ban isn't good enough. The main site attraction is the Black Market, right? Why not hide it. Just hide it. Make it so you must be on the board, actively for 1 month + 100 posts before you're allowed in the black market. It sounds stupid, and highly annoying, but I'm pretty damn sure it will reduce scamming by a great number. Of course people will make loads of accounts at once & probably spam to each other in order to gain this reputation, but hell, to go through all that trouble to scam a pin or a few million? I think this will repel scammers.

My idea is to block off the black market to 'leechers'. Make them post around the forum, contribute. Once ready, a moderator can decide whether or not he's worthy of entering the Black Market based on his posts, whether they are spam or meaningful. I think this is a lot of trouble for scammers to go through for barely any money, and just a minor inconvenience for someone who comes here and plans to do business. The only problem I can see here is a low traffic problem, which could end up losing Sythe money in advertising. But we're losing money too ya know.

Anyways I'm tired as piss so I hope you guys caught most of that & can contribute and altar my ideas to something Sythe may consider. It will be a big step, but after reading every single post here, I do believe there are people out there who are willing to make this a better forum.

What do you think guys? Make the Black Market 'VIP' to repel scammers and leave only the trustworthy in it, or allow nubs to repeatedly bypass and continue scamming?

Obviously there will be drawbacks; you won't get much interest in your thread. Ya with the lack of people there, you may not get so busy anymore in your black market thread, since most people posting would be trying to scam. But hey, would you rather lose your money, or lose people taking interest (Interest to scam)?

Hope you guys can contribute to my thoughts.

 

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i like sythes community every one is soo nice lol accept for the scammers i hate them alot

 

I gotta say although there are quite a few liars and scammers here, i kinda enjoy this community...

 

tbh i rthink its full of timewasters/scammers. there's only a few people on here who are real and trustworthy.

 

omg sweet that means im a god.

jk

but ya i noticed this in my first few months and now i realised that if i didnt want to get herassed i had to stand up and herass others