How False Scam Accusations Are Handled

I believe there needs to be a better system in place to clear the name of those who were accused of scamming but proven 100% innocent

Meaning every case where the person proves they are completely innocent marked as resolved and their names retracted from the post title and contents so it doesn't appear in searches.


For example, @PAK catches a lot of scammers. But we all make mistakes and he's made a few which put multiple innocent people in the scammer section.

He did it to me here, which I was cleared of within 5min of talking to a reasonable mod.

Brad Kelly


He did it here to another person
Found Fit/Ratya ban evading


And here

[Resolved]


Yet, me and another person above still have our names in the report a scammer section while never scamming.

Again a simple way would be editing the thread title of each person proven innocent.


REPORT A SCAM VS BAN EVASION

Without concrete evidence to an actual scam that took place, I also don't see a point of posting it in the report a scam section.

Why was I reported there?

Brad Kelly


Why was Ratya?

Found Fit/Ratya ban evading

Because of his emoji use?

I think at best cases like these should have been reported in the ban evader section as that was what we were falsely accused of.

 

Also, I want to point out I was just using Pak as a prime and easy example it does happen.

Pak seems to be doing this to help the community, which is great and I support that. But maybe he should be a little more careful throwing accusations.

I don't even know Pak, he blocked me immediately upon interaction. I will assume he is a good guy, but I think the system is a little weighted to freely let people accuse whoever.

 

what you mention is not much of an issue at all

what IS problem is when people FAKE evidence and get someone DNTed as happen to @PAK for retaliation for getting chris kanes brain dead scam account bann.

No support to your resolution

 

@zach110

All accusations which prove to have no real evidence should be taken seriously imo

Of course whoever falsely accused Pak with fake evidence should get banned and his name cleared.

But why can someone falsely accuse me, I prove it wasn't me and still the thread accusing me stays on search and in record not resolved?


My resolution would be both me and Pak would be cleared.

IMO what applies to one should apply to all both in false accusors and clearing completely names of those falsely accused.

 

simple solution

how about after it is resolved just change the thread title ??

y gotta make it so complex

 

I agree with this completely. Like I said just remove the person's name from the title and within post . I say that my second paragraph

 

I will try to use my best grammar here so there is no mistakes made.

1. Osrsironmantyler

2.
Elshams spam bump need DNT

3.
JRC GP impostering WolfieGP/Myself

4.
1942 Serial vade
- this was partial mistake, as Accountboost failed to mention he sold this account and update his thread so it did appear something was wrong, this is why we post a report to have someone on staff handle and figure out the exact detail as member of the community can not do this. But 1942 was confirmed vading.

5.
Senor Dingdong...

6.
Akabolle/claxon010/tripothy

7.
Jammy Dodger

8.
Forzza ban evader

9.
Amnesia ban evasion

10.
kevmillsss

Now I will not go past 10, this is to show here I do not do what you claim, which is to make fake report and false evidence. The reason to post the 10 thread is to show I do make many valid reports here. I am not member of staff and can not see all the information to all the users, this is why report is made for staff to review and handle with accuracy and access to important information to verify.

If you have issues with a report message staff who handles the report.

Yes I admit here, I have made a few mistakes on reports while learning to find proofs on users and how to make good links, I have been better most recent on this to avoid a report if not enough "concrete" evidence is given.

You were given trade with caution for not creating account under proper rules, I did not apply this to you, staff did. Your account happens to be a similar match and join date to seem off so yes I made a report.

I will say no support to this, as it was mistakes made and not malicious purpose to make the reports. To punish users who want to protect and help when staff do not have time as Admin Gen say, to "head hunt" or spend hours of time to research and link Vaders or scammers, will only make users not want to report rule breakers and this allows scammers and Vader's to win here and will see increase in scams.

 

This does not need to be suggestion, go look at other report a scammer section, many user who are innocent title is changed already, you did fail to follow the rules and make account from Home IP so @Zero has applied TWC to you until you complete the task he required of you. If you wish to have thread title changed, message staff who handles report. Simple. If they refuse, it is a good reason why.

 

I know you do a lot of good Pak.


I imagine you have saved many people from getting scammed. I would say you are a great addition to the community.


But we all make mistakes and I think when mistakes are made the post should be cleared.

If someone searches Brad Kelly it comes up with your thread saying I was linked to a scammer with no resolution.

 

I was cleared completely, I proved I have done nothing wrong

I asked 2 staff members to change that post and none did.

 

Report made against me has same thing, my over worry and extra posts are still showed to other users even if I am innocent. This is the way it has been since I have been using Sythe on 2018 and looking at Vader's from before many years ago too. This is still available to view so if user are lying and get away with it temporarily they are still available to have link made with information from the post.

 

Yes that is what I think should be updated . You were proven innocent so you should have your name removed from all posts suggesting otherwise


I am sorry I made this post look like I was calling you out maliciously.

I am just saying in my opinion innocent people like yourself and me should be have our reputations cleared from the report a scammer section.

 

If you read the The Official Sythe.org Rules
Like you should have, you will notice it says

I can not see your IP if it is home or wireless, staff verified it was wireless and not home, which has links to a user who is banned.
You did not make your account from Home IP, so you were applied proper rule punishment.

Users can make accounts with wireless connection, proxy, VPN and still be Vader's if they change IP or use TeamViewer to remote connect/windows RDP after when asked to verify @Chris Kane is living proof

 

I don't have a home internet because my home was destroyed by a hurricane in October 2018.

I proved this to Zero along with my IP so he cleared me completely.

I don't care about that.


I care my name is in the Report a Scammer section for all to see when I never scammed

 

@Zero any input on this feedback thread when you have a minute or two friend?

 

I guess I would also like to add to the discussion you being completely unwilling to discuss this with me privately.

When we first met you blocked me on discord within 30 seconds simply because I shared IPs with someone I didn't know.

(You share an IP with about 20 people ironically)

Then I asked you on sythe why you blocked me and thought I was someone else.

You didn't ever reply and just reported me in the report a scammer section .

That's why I added you to this post. Your someone who did it 3 times in my examples. I don't think it's fair to even be listed in the "Report A Scammer section as a innocent person and you've listed 3 innocent people..

You were accused of being a scammer falsely so you know how it feels to be accused when you did nothing wrong.. So why accuse me and never be willing to talk about it?

 

To avoid more unnecessary spam here, I will leave with this until staff reply.

1.
There is no meaningful outcome to speak with you about this further, it's in staffs hands here now.

2.
I created my account with Home IP, you did not, do not compare, I followed the rules. After creating I use my cell phone, and VPN to do my business and send PM, also have 2FA enabled to make sure there is no possible way I am other user as I use same devices always.

3.
I have proven I am not a risk to Sythe from my business and daily vouches from trading hundreds of dollars, you are supposedly a newcomer and lack this, do not compare, you are far off here.

Staff will handle this thread from now to close. I will not reply or speak to you further, as stated is a waste of time, I do not need to hear your explanation, it would solve nothing, I am not hunting you, relax. I will monitor anyone who may be a threat to Sythe and report accordingly to have staff handle as should be, thank you and have a good time here please.

 

1.The meanginful outcome was to talk to a person before you accuse them of being a scammer with absolutely no evidence. I may not have a vouch thread but I've bought a 300mill account and 400mill gp from users of sythe. I do a lot of purchases here paying first. You hurt my reputation with zero remorse.

2. I didn't create my account with a home IP because I have no home IP. It was destroyed by a Hurricane in October, 2018 as I said and proved to Zero. This is not a reason for me to be guilty of anything. You didn't know this when you reported me; you reported me over sharing a IP with one person.


I shouldn't have mentioned you in this thread at all. I frankly don't care what you do.

My goal with this thread was to shed a light on innocent peoples reputations being damaged from false scam accusations.

I only mentioned you because I think it's unfair to have innocent people in the "Report A Scammer" section and you have put multiple innocent people there.

 

To clarify, although the post became about Pak shortly , that wasn't my intention. I was merely using his posts to show 3 examples of innocent people who landed in the report a scammer archive permanently.

 

Alright so, I just read everything on this thread and to start things off, I've changed the title of the report you are a part of @Brad Kelly to resolved, as requested.

Generally speaking, there are far more requests for changing the title of a report when it has been posted the in Report a Scammer section rather than the Report a Ban Evader section, reason being in almost every case of a scam report being resolved, people will automatically have the reflex to ask for the title to be changed as they went out of their way to accomodate/compensate the situation they were in and they have all the rights in the world to have their names removed from a report as long as it was properly resolved. Now, I'm not saying people being reported in the ban evader section won't provide sufficient efforts in order to resolve their cases, what I mean is reports in both sections are simply different to handle/resolve.

Furthermore, statistically speaking, the Report a Scammer section has always attracted more viewers than the Report a Ban Evader section, hence why the first thought of someone being reported will be to have their names removed from the said report because they don't want their public images to be tarnished which is totally understandable. But in the end, and I think this will pretty much answer your main questioning here, either it's the scam section, the ban evader section or even the violation section, as soon as a thread will be archived, it will automatically end up in the Report a Scammer Archives section.

Now, if this still doesn't satisfy your askings, you're always free to make a suggestion here if you would like to see a Report a Scammer Archive Section, a Report a Ban Evader Archive Section and a Report a Violation Archive section but quite frankly, sending a private message to a staff member asking to have your name to be removed from a report that has been handled should be sufficient. I know you did and I'm sorry for the delay, I blame summertime.